MMA

[Oiky]

whatever mcgregor is and whatever he isn't, psychological warfare seems to work for the man. and i think he is going to beat RDA. what we saying about silva-bisping? i think even at this stage silva will beat bisping. i like bisping though, good fighter and says it how it is

[Tomasino]

I can understand why people don't like him. He definitely crosses the line quite often. But I think people are taking him way too seriously. He picks fighters apart and they can't take it. But he can. Nothing phases him and he seems to have an answer for everything.

Impractical Poster - The zoo like atmosphere you talk of was only the same as what Conor has faced on a couple of occasions in Rio (once on the tour and once at a Q&A). Conor just handles it better than most. At the Q&A, Brazilians were threatening to kill him after he left and calling his mum a whore. He just stood there, smiled and gev it back to them.

Counter Puncher - I'm surprised that you think that way. He's definitely charismatic, he's come out with some brilliant moments for a fighter (the Aldo Gynecologist line & the El Chapo handshake reenactment to name a couple). And of course, he always backs it up, down to the round and the manor of the KO. I fail to see how people can't at least have some kind of respect for what he's done in such a short amount of time.

He's used the same pattern now on more than one occasion. In the fight announcment pressers or world tours, he goes big and launches a verbal onslaught to his opponent. He creates a hate towards himself and makes his opponent irrational. In the pre-fight presser, he's calm, almost zen like. He babies the opponent, saying things like "I feel sorry for Jose, I just want to give him a hug and tell him it'll all be over soon". Then post fight, after what he said would happen, happened, he is humble and respectful to his opponents. Luke Thomas was critical of his choice of insults towards RDA but went on to say he's the most charming fighter he's ever known post fight. He comes out with lines like "I'm cocky in prediction, I'm confident in preparation, but I am always humble in victory OR defeat", "I honestly believe there is no such thing as self made, I believe that is a term that does not exist. For me it certainly doesn't. The people who have been around for my whole career have helped shape this moment. This night and this moment is for them" and "There is no talent here, just hard work. This is an obsession, talent does not exist, we are all equal as human beings. You could be anyone if you put the time in. You will reach the top and that's that. I am not talented, I am obsessed."

This is not a completely arrogant ego-maniac here. He's just playing the game and winning.

As I said, I agree he crosses the line. But overall, his career and his mind set has genuinely inspired me.

Inspired you to do what?

[danamba7]

I can understand why people don't like him. He definitely crosses the line quite often. But I think people are taking him way too seriously. He picks fighters apart and they can't take it. But he can. Nothing phases him and he seems to have an answer for everything.

Impractical Poster - The zoo like atmosphere you talk of was only the same as what Conor has faced on a couple of occasions in Rio (once on the tour and once at a Q&A). Conor just handles it better than most. At the Q&A, Brazilians were threatening to kill him after he left and calling his mum a whore. He just stood there, smiled and gev it back to them.

Counter Puncher - I'm surprised that you think that way. He's definitely charismatic, he's come out with some brilliant moments for a fighter (the Aldo Gynecologist line & the El Chapo handshake reenactment to name a couple). And of course, he always backs it up, down to the round and the manor of the KO. I fail to see how people can't at least have some kind of respect for what he's done in such a short amount of time.

He's used the same pattern now on more than one occasion. In the fight announcment pressers or world tours, he goes big and launches a verbal onslaught to his opponent. He creates a hate towards himself and makes his opponent irrational. In the pre-fight presser, he's calm, almost zen like. He babies the opponent, saying things like "I feel sorry for Jose, I just want to give him a hug and tell him it'll all be over soon". Then post fight, after what he said would happen, happened, he is humble and respectful to his opponents. Luke Thomas was critical of his choice of insults towards RDA but went on to say he's the most charming fighter he's ever known post fight. He comes out with lines like "I'm cocky in prediction, I'm confident in preparation, but I am always humble in victory OR defeat", "I honestly believe there is no such thing as self made, I believe that is a term that does not exist. For me it certainly doesn't. The people who have been around for my whole career have helped shape this moment. This night and this moment is for them" and "There is no talent here, just hard work. This is an obsession, talent does not exist, we are all equal as human beings. You could be anyone if you put the time in. You will reach the top and that's that. I am not talented, I am obsessed."

This is not a completely arrogant ego-maniac here. He's just playing the game and winning.

As I said, I agree he crosses the line. But overall, his career and his mind set has genuinely inspired me.

Inspired you to do what?

Visualize. Speak my mind more like I used to. I now stretch twice daily because I'd love to be able to move like him. Get off my arse and do things I wana do like learning to DJ and producing music with my dad. I'm not enjoying the best of times at the moment but when I listen to the way he speaks with total self belief, not a doubt in his mind, it makes me think I can do the same.

[Tomasino]

I can understand why people don't like him. He definitely crosses the line quite often. But I think people are taking him way too seriously. He picks fighters apart and they can't take it. But he can. Nothing phases him and he seems to have an answer for everything.

Impractical Poster - The zoo like atmosphere you talk of was only the same as what Conor has faced on a couple of occasions in Rio (once on the tour and once at a Q&A). Conor just handles it better than most. At the Q&A, Brazilians were threatening to kill him after he left and calling his mum a whore. He just stood there, smiled and gev it back to them.

Counter Puncher - I'm surprised that you think that way. He's definitely charismatic, he's come out with some brilliant moments for a fighter (the Aldo Gynecologist line & the El Chapo handshake reenactment to name a couple). And of course, he always backs it up, down to the round and the manor of the KO. I fail to see how people can't at least have some kind of respect for what he's done in such a short amount of time.

He's used the same pattern now on more than one occasion. In the fight announcment pressers or world tours, he goes big and launches a verbal onslaught to his opponent. He creates a hate towards himself and makes his opponent irrational. In the pre-fight presser, he's calm, almost zen like. He babies the opponent, saying things like "I feel sorry for Jose, I just want to give him a hug and tell him it'll all be over soon". Then post fight, after what he said would happen, happened, he is humble and respectful to his opponents. Luke Thomas was critical of his choice of insults towards RDA but went on to say he's the most charming fighter he's ever known post fight. He comes out with lines like "I'm cocky in prediction, I'm confident in preparation, but I am always humble in victory OR defeat", "I honestly believe there is no such thing as self made, I believe that is a term that does not exist. For me it certainly doesn't. The people who have been around for my whole career have helped shape this moment. This night and this moment is for them" and "There is no talent here, just hard work. This is an obsession, talent does not exist, we are all equal as human beings. You could be anyone if you put the time in. You will reach the top and that's that. I am not talented, I am obsessed."

This is not a completely arrogant ego-maniac here. He's just playing the game and winning.

As I said, I agree he crosses the line. But overall, his career and his mind set has genuinely inspired me.

Inspired you to do what?

Visualize. Speak my mind more like I used to. I now stretch twice daily because I'd love to be able to move like him. Get off my arse and do things I wana do like learning to DJ and producing music with my dad. I'm not enjoying the best of times at the moment but when I listen to the way he speaks with total self belief, not a doubt in his mind, it makes me think I can do the same.

Fair enough

[Impractical Poster]

I hear ya danamba. There are some extremely admirable qualities about him. But, they seem to go out the window when he starts degrading a man's character and talking about his family. He will advance himself at any cost. That's my issue with him. But, you are right, his self belief is like no other. Wish I had it.

Despite that, seriously, I'm happy to hear you have found motivation because of him though.

[danamba7]

I hear ya danamba. There are some extremely admirable qualities about him. But, they seem to go out the window when he starts degrading a man's character and talking about his family. He will advance himself at any cost. That's my issue with him. But, you are right, his self belief is like no other. Wish I had it.

Despite that, seriously, I'm happy to hear you have found motivation because of him though.

Cheers pal

[Redback Rasta]

Royce Gracie pulled off a huge upset beating Ken Shamrock in Texas.

Gracie landed a knee to the body and then hammerfisted Shamrock to a referee called stoppage.

The win puts Gracie ahead 2-1 in their trilogy.

[wesshaw1985]

Royce Gracie pulled off a huge upset beating Ken Shamrock in Texas.

Gracie landed a knee to the body and then hammerfisted Shamrock to a referee called stoppage.

The win puts Gracie ahead 2-1 in their trilogy.

awful fight.
Hopefully they can get a grappling match organised next for Metamoris.
Tank Abbott vs. Dada 5000 next...

[jujigatame]

It wasn't a big upset at all. The betting lines were near even, Royce was like +105.

[Rexob]

It was just a joke, I mean come on.

[Tinnie]

I didnt watch it. I cannot recall a single memorable fight from Shamrock and he's been around a long time.

[Impractical Poster]

Watching Kimbo/Dada got me winded.

Possibly the poorest display of conditioning in a professional fight that I've ever seen.

[Tomasino]

Watching Kimbo/Dada got me winded.

Possibly the poorest display of conditioning in a professional fight that I've ever seen.

Never mind the conditioning, the skill level was terrible! I mean, Kimbo fell to a knee over nothing, Dada followed him down and should have finished him instead he ended up on his back. It was fucken hillarious!

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

Watching Kimbo/Dada got me winded.

Possibly the poorest display of conditioning in a professional fight that I've ever seen.

Never mind the conditioning, the skill level was terrible! I mean, Kimbo fell to a knee over nothing, Dada followed him down and should have finished him instead he ended up on his back. It was fucken hillarious!

Kimbo has been training at top MMA gyms for over a decade.

He's not exactly a fast learner is he?


He was a better fighter on YouTube in the 1990s

[Tomasino]

Watching Kimbo/Dada got me winded.

Possibly the poorest display of conditioning in a professional fight that I've ever seen.

Never mind the conditioning, the skill level was terrible! I mean, Kimbo fell to a knee over nothing, Dada followed him down and should have finished him instead he ended up on his back. It was fucken hillarious!

Kimbo has been training at top MMA gyms for over a decade.

He's not exactly a fast learner is he?


He was a better fighter on YouTube in the 1990s

He's a joke of a fighter...it looked like he was in pain from just throwing some slow punches. Horrible. Those guys he fought on YouTube were no hopers

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

Never mind the conditioning, the skill level was terrible! I mean, Kimbo fell to a knee over nothing, Dada followed him down and should have finished him instead he ended up on his back. It was fucken hillarious!

Kimbo has been training at top MMA gyms for over a decade.

He's not exactly a fast learner is he?


He was a better fighter on YouTube in the 1990s

He's a joke of a fighter...it looked like he was in pain from just throwing some slow punches. Horrible. Those guys he fought on YouTube were no hopers

He is indeed a joke of a fighter, but he draws big TV ratings (I never understood why)

Bellator needs them ratings to stay alive, man

[Redback Rasta]

It wasn't a big upset at all. The betting lines were near even, Royce was like +105.

It was an upset in my opinion and many others.

[gilgamesh]

It wasn't a big upset at all. The betting lines were near even, Royce was like +105.

It was an upset in my opinion and many others.

You were surprised a 50 something year old who is 2-7 in the last 10 years lost?

[Redback Rasta]

Watching Kimbo/Dada got me winded.

Possibly the poorest display of conditioning in a professional fight that I've ever seen.

Even Gary Shaw, who promoted Kimbo's boxing career and professes to "love the guy," says he should quit.

Nowhere to go now for Kimbo but retire IMO. His boxing career was horrendously disappointing and a return there would be pointless.

[gilgamesh]

Watching Kimbo/Dada got me winded.

Possibly the poorest display of conditioning in a professional fight that I've ever seen.

Certainly the worst for me. The only fighters I've ever seen that tired in a fight were Earnie Shavers and Roy "Tiger" Williams and they at least went 10 rounds, but they looked about equally sapped at the end, but still these guys were looking like that after about 2 or 3 minutes.

[deadpan]

Watching Kimbo/Dada got me winded.

Possibly the poorest display of conditioning in a professional fight that I've ever seen.

Even Gary Shaw, who promoted Kimbo's boxing career and professes to "love the guy," says he should quit.

Nowhere to go now for Kimbo but retire IMO. His boxing career was horrendously disappointing and a return there would be pointless.

You're right, but I bet when the MMA doors inevitably close in the next year he'll be back boxing. He's not lost yet and even when he gets exposed he can no doubt earn a few pay cheques around the globe, Julius Long style. He can still be sold off the back of his absurd backyard status.

[gilgamesh]

I didnt watch it. I cannot recall a single memorable fight from Shamrock and he's been around a long time.

I remember seeing him lose in memorable fashion...that's about it. I've seen most of his career. I'm not a fan at all, and I think he's a douche.

[gilgamesh]

Watching Kimbo/Dada got me winded.

Possibly the poorest display of conditioning in a professional fight that I've ever seen.

Even Gary Shaw, who promoted Kimbo's boxing career and professes to "love the guy," says he should quit.

Nowhere to go now for Kimbo but retire IMO. His boxing career was horrendously disappointing and a return there would be pointless.

You're right, but I bet when the MMA doors inevitably close in the next year he'll be back boxing. He's not lost yet and even when he gets exposed he can no doubt earn a few pay cheques around the globe, Julius Long style. He can still be sold off the back of his absurd backyard status.

Just for the hell of it I'd like to see Kimbo vs Shannon Briggs. They're both novelty acts at this point (Kimbo always was, Shannon has become one) but even at his advanced age Shannon would blast Kimbo out of there in 1 round. I'd just like to see it for the hell of it.

[Redback Rasta]

Even Gary Shaw, who promoted Kimbo's boxing career and professes to "love the guy," says he should quit.

Nowhere to go now for Kimbo but retire IMO. His boxing career was horrendously disappointing and a return there would be pointless.

You're right, but I bet when the MMA doors inevitably close in the next year he'll be back boxing. He's not lost yet and even when he gets exposed he can no doubt earn a few pay cheques around the globe, Julius Long style. He can still be sold off the back of his absurd backyard status.

Just for the hell of it I'd like to see Kimbo vs Shannon Briggs. They're both novelty acts at this point (Kimbo always was, Shannon has become one) but even at his advanced age Shannon would blast Kimbo out of there in 1 round. I'd just like to see it for the hell of it.

Briggs would absolutely murder Kimbo.

[lefty]

There has been talk that Dada 5000's heart stopped after the fight and he had to be put on a ventilator. He also had Renal failure from cutting 40 lbs to make 265.