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runner_phob wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

runner_phob wrote:
When we are talking about such small amounts, those "negative" tests could have just missed them.

The guy promoting the fight is the one that keeps going on and on about the small amount and he's talking about allowable levels for a banned substance. They got popped and he's trying to save face. Happens all the time.

Do you have any data to disprove him ? Are you saying that he just comes up with random numbers when VADA and WBC could easilly prove him wrong ?

Makes more sense than anything you're saying.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

runner_phob wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
The guy promoting the fight is the one that keeps going on and on about the small amount and he's talking about allowable levels for a banned substance. They got popped and he's trying to save face. Happens all the time.

Do you have any data to disprove him ? Are you saying that he just comes up with random numbers when VADA and WBC could easilly prove him wrong ?

Makes more sense than anything you're saying.

Sure, wise Saad reading everybody's minds and souls

ttornado wrote:

runner_phob wrote:
Yes, Povetkin is responsible for any meldonium above 1 microgramm in his body, and VADA is responsible for accuracy of its tests.

Where are you getting 1mcg from?
This doesn't state that:
https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upload ... ist-en.pdf

The following notice is probably very relevant to what you're asking:
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/ ... akeholders
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

Lackeos wrote:
The following notice is probably very relevant to what you're asking:
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/ ... akeholders
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

Thanks.
So 1 mcg/ml isn't the permitted cut-off:

If the concentration is below 1 µg/mL and the test was taken after 1 March given that the results of ongoing excretion studies are needed to determine the time of
the ingestion.

Tanzio wrote:Terrible news.

I'm sure Wilder haters will figure out how to blame this on him.

9 or so pages ago.

Mauricio Sulaiman needs to get off his duff & make a ruling on this matter asap.
Until he does, everything is in limbo & the title is basically frozen.
Hopefully we'll hear something from him within the next couple of days. Ant longer than that & it'll be ridiculous.
IMO, the only fair ruling would be a suspension of Povetkin, which would free up Wilder to make a title defense against another challenger as soon as Dibella can arrange it & get a television date.
Any ruling OTHER than that will pretty much confirm to me that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree & that Mauricio is in Ryabinskiy's pocket just like his old man used to be in Don King's.
Let's REALLY hope that that isn't the case, because if Sulaiman does make a ruling that favors Ryabinskiy & Povetkin then Wilder & his WBC strap are most likely going to be tied up in court for the rest of the year. I can't see Dibella or Wilder's people just accepting a new date to defend against a proven PED user. And, with VERY good cause, I can't see them ever going anywhere NEAR Russia.

sweetviolenturge wrote:Mauricio Sulaiman needs to get off his duff & make a ruling on this matter asap.
Until he does, everything is in limbo & the title is basically frozen.
Hopefully we'll hear something from him within the next couple of days. Ant longer than that & it'll be ridiculous.
IMO, the only fair ruling would be a suspension of Povetkin, which would free up Wilder to make a title defense against another challenger as soon as Dibella can arrange it & get a television date.
Any ruling OTHER than that will pretty much confirm to me that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree & that Mauricio is in Ryabinskiy's pocket just like his old man used to be in Don King's.
Let's REALLY hope that that isn't the case, because if Sulaiman does make a ruling that favors Ryabinskiy & Povetkin then Wilder & his WBC strap are most likely going to be tied up in court for the rest of the year. I can't see Dibella or Wilder's people just accepting a new date to defend against a proven PED user. And, with VERY good cause, I can't see them ever going anywhere NEAR Russia.

He is now collecting bids, so whoever pays more will get a favorable ruling

foxdog1923 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: You just have to look at the situation and how it gets dealt with to know. Let me educate you..

Now at anytime if you're to do a doping test you want to???...pass or fail?? that's right you want to pass it. If you fail for using PEDs what usually happens? Now when I say usually it really should be ALWAYS. That's right if you are tested positive for PEDs you can not continue in your upcoming event.

Get it now?..come on people really

Somehow Povetkin passed the test and never used PEDs, you get it now?..come on people really

Oh so the fights on? Because you asdfjkl that Povetkin doesn't even know or care about said he passed. What a joke. You should be ashamed of yourself, you're an absolute joke of a person.

No, Wilder chickened out with lies and weak excuses, the Russians are doing everything they can to let the fight happen, Wilder and his team are doing everything they can to avoid and delay the fight. They know about maldonium at 1 januari, that's why they were acting like this for such a long time. That's also why Povetkin and his team will probably bring Wilder and his team to court now, Povetkin got nothing to lose, he never lied, unlike Wilder, he never occused anyone delibrary, wrongly of false occusations unlike Wilder and his team and they have never bribed of gave presents to the leaders of the WBC unlike Wilder, they followed the rules by all time and still continue to do that.

foxdog1923 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

ttornado wrote: Favouring the production of energy from glucose is not the same as inhibiting the production of energy from fat.

But then, even if it worked, then it still wouldn't make any sense, why such a long time before the match, why such an uncredebly low amount, why something that works for like a day and is traceble for many many months, why this instead of all those far more succesfull things?

This medicine is like the ideal thing to catch someone for and outside of that it's pretty much useless. Especially if you stay 15 times lower as the moment Wada actually considers it as a positive test. I know weed isn't allowed either, but as far as I know that's useless as well. That's also why I dislike Mayweather far above Arreola for example.


Wilder went to America yesterday as far as I know, he was probably never planning to show up for the fight at all.

Cos there was no fight so Wilder should go home. I knew day before yesterday there would be no fight because of Povetkin.

There was a fight and it was planned ages ago, somehow Wilder and his team continue to look for excuses to avoid and delay it as much as possible.