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Kalan wrote:You're getting WADA mixed up with VADA... WADA did nothing wrong... They set the guidelines and never suggested Povetkin failed anything... VADA and the WBC are cohorts... The WBC forced Povetkin to use VADA instead of WADA.. Then the VADA used innuendo to smear Povetkin... The WBC then postponed the fight to "investigate" because they wanted to destroy Ryabinski's promotion... The investigation is lasting forever.

Investigate WHAT???? ... Povetkin passed all of his tests ... WTF do they have to investigate??? ... And how long is it going to take them???

Ok VADA. Whats your take on why Riabinsky is not suing them for their halting of the fight? They are the origin of this mess. Wilder didnt drug test Povetkin...

foxdog1923 wrote:

Kalan wrote:You're getting WADA mixed up with VADA... WADA did nothing wrong... They set the guidelines and never suggested Povetkin failed anything... VADA and the WBC are cohorts... The WBC forced Povetkin to use VADA instead of WADA.. Then the VADA used innuendo to smear Povetkin... The WBC then postponed the fight to "investigate" because they wanted to destroy Ryabinski's promotion... The investigation is lasting forever.

Investigate WHAT???? ... Povetkin passed all of his tests ... WTF do they have to investigate??? ... And how long is it going to take them???

Ok VADA. Whats your take on why Riabinsky is not suing them for their halting of the fight? They are the origin of this mess. Wilder didnt drug test Povetkin...

VADA didn't sue Riabinski, so he don't have to sue them back

Riabinski counter law suit came only out of tactic reasons...

foxdog1923 wrote:

Kalan wrote:You're getting WADA mixed up with VADA... WADA did nothing wrong... They set the guidelines and never suggested Povetkin failed anything... VADA and the WBC are cohorts... The WBC forced Povetkin to use VADA instead of WADA.. Then the VADA used innuendo to smear Povetkin... The WBC then postponed the fight to "investigate" because they wanted to destroy Ryabinski's promotion... The investigation is lasting forever.

Investigate WHAT???? ... Povetkin passed all of his tests ... WTF do they have to investigate??? ... And how long is it going to take them???

Ok VADA. Whats your take on why Riabinsky is not suing them for their halting of the fight? They are the origin of this mess. Wilder didnt drug test Povetkin...

Vada didn't say he was a drug cheat, wilder did, you really need everything spelt out to you foxdog, why don't you get one of your carers to explain it to you

bigman1968 wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

Kalan wrote:You're getting WADA mixed up with VADA... WADA did nothing wrong... They set the guidelines and never suggested Povetkin failed anything... VADA and the WBC are cohorts... The WBC forced Povetkin to use VADA instead of WADA.. Then the VADA used innuendo to smear Povetkin... The WBC then postponed the fight to "investigate" because they wanted to destroy Ryabinski's promotion... The investigation is lasting forever.

Investigate WHAT???? ... Povetkin passed all of his tests ... WTF do they have to investigate??? ... And how long is it going to take them???

Ok VADA. Whats your take on why Riabinsky is not suing them for their halting of the fight? They are the origin of this mess. Wilder didnt drug test Povetkin...

VADA didn't sue Riabinski, so he don't have to sue them back

Riabinski counter law suit came only out of tactic reasons...

Where did I say VADA sue Riabinsky? Where? Please show me so you won't look stupid, please show now. If you can't then will look really stupid. Show now.

foxdog1923 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: None of those that you posted your reply to say so.

Then why did you post their vids in the first place lol

It says on the top of those vids HAHA HAHA HAHA. I ALWAYS MAKE YOU LOOK STUPID. Read at the TOP of those videos, it clearly states why I posted it. You just got knocked out AGAIN.

None of the views on youtube suggest that Riabinsky is right for suing Wilder. Yet you said on your post that now I understand it should be 80 million. You clearly didnt watch those videos.

I thought you listened to youtube videos lol. Like I said theyre interesting views. It tells you what most of the world is thinking.

Fact they got such opinions proves that Povetkin his status is badly hurt thanks to Wilder and his team. That's absolutely ridiculous.
We're talking about an Olympic gold medalist, a (several times in a row) European champion winner, a world champion, in both amateur, as well as pro's. Never failed a test, fighting against the top of the league for many many years now. And now? Some newboy receives a belt and fights a few rank 30 ish guys and openly ruines Povetkin's reputation with the help of a sickload of media? That's just sick. In the past 13 years Povetkin only lost one match more as billionairs like Floyd Mayweather, George Foreman lost more matches as he did and made about 250m with it.

I think the damage Wilder has done to Povetkin his reputation costed Povetkin many many millions. In fact I think a lot more as 50m, possibly 250m+, like Foreman. So a very nice excuse and a pay of of 35m should be a dream for Deontay Wilder, since he should pay much much more just to break even.

Also, you've been proven wrong countless of times, this Povetkin issue is just another example of that. Actually, I don't even need to defend myself in this matter, as you can see on all others their reactions.

Pureist wrote: Vada didn't say he was a drug cheat, wilder did, you really need everything spelt out to you foxdog, why don't you get one of your carers to explain it to you

Wheres the question millions? Lol you said you wanted answers and look theres not even a real question there or a question mark you make yourself look stupid. I PROVIDE the PROOF of how you went wrong thats the difference between me and you. You lose again loser.

I love it when you try to be funny, everyone knows you do that when you have no answer, so funny

Pureist wrote:I love it when you try to be funny, everyone knows you do that when you have no answer, so funny

Answer? Wheres the question? Ohhh BOOM you got knocked. Not even a question mark on your last post lol.

Look at your post BEFORE the one above that you claim I have no answers for, its got no questions you dum fuk lol.

Youre too easy.

I would sue VADA and the WBC if I were Ryabinski... I would sue Victor Conte as well... But it's difficult..

The problem is VADA can say "We never said Povetkin failed a drug test... We said he had Meldonium in 1 of his samples... Then we tested the B Sample and there was a trace of Meldonium in that sample too and we reported that... We never said he failed the test... So VADA's lawyers will be able to cloud that up so much it's hard to prove malicious intent.. So they are not the easiest targets out there.. DiBella and Wilder lied their asses off, made a lot of extremely reckless and vicious public statements about Povetkin, and are easier legal targets...

But I would sue VADA and the WBC because they actually did all the damage... They put out the misleading reports, postponed the fight, and destroyed the promotion... I think it was a mistake not to go after them -- but maybe the Title Fight is more important to Povetkin right now, and he can't alienate VADA and the WBC 1000% until after the fight comes off.

Kalan wrote:I would sue VADA and the WBC if I were Ryabinski... I would sue Victor Conte as well... But it's difficult..

The problem is VADA can say "We never said Povetkin failed a drug test... We said he had Meldonium in 1 of his samples... Then we tested the B Sample and there was a trace of Meldonium in that sample too and we reported that... We never said he failed the test... So VADA's lawyers will be able to cloud that up so much it's hard to prove malicious intent.. So they are not the easiest targets out there.. DiBella and Wilder lied their asses off, made a lot of extremely reckless and vicious public statements about Povetkin, and are easier legal targets...

But I would sue VADA and the WBC because they actually did all the damage... They put out the misleading reports, postponed the fight, and destroyed the promotion... I think it was a mistake not to go after them -- but maybe the Title Fight is more important to Povetkin right now, and he can't alienate VADA and the WBC 1000% until after the fight comes off.

You got some valid points there regarding VADA. Im guessing theres more to it. Ive been researching on the net and nothing. Its like youre not allowed to mess with VADA.

I agree that both Povetkin and Wilder will be stressing over this mess. Maybe Povetkin a bit more as he was put under the spotlight.

Theres talk of Fury going through the same shit but his ones for Nandrolone. Some sports are postponed cos of the weather but now it can be postponed cos of VADA as well, its crazy. The tests need to be an efficient process. Hope we see Tyson vs Klitschko 2 this year but its hard to be confident now.

Can anyone confirm that tge WBC has cleared Povetkin?
Last I saw was they were still investigating

tiny_acres wrote:Can anyone confirm that tge WBC has cleared Povetkin?
Last I saw was they were still investigating

They will do it on Monday (or Tuesday if they are not working on the 4th of July).

boxing_rocks wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:Can anyone confirm that tge WBC has cleared Povetkin?
Last I saw was they were still investigating

They will do it on Monday (or Tuesday if they are not working on the 4th of July).

Thank you.

tiny_acres wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:Can anyone confirm that tge WBC has cleared Povetkin?
Last I saw was they were still investigating

They will do it on Monday (or Tuesday if they are not working on the 4th of July).

Thank you.

As far as I know they do it on 12 july actually, but ok, we'll see.

bigman1968 wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

Kalan wrote:You're getting WADA mixed up with VADA... WADA did nothing wrong... They set the guidelines and never suggested Povetkin failed anything... VADA and the WBC are cohorts... The WBC forced Povetkin to use VADA instead of WADA.. Then the VADA used innuendo to smear Povetkin... The WBC then postponed the fight to "investigate" because they wanted to destroy Ryabinski's promotion... The investigation is lasting forever.

Investigate WHAT???? ... Povetkin passed all of his tests ... WTF do they have to investigate??? ... And how long is it going to take them???

Ok VADA. Whats your take on why Riabinsky is not suing them for their halting of the fight? They are the origin of this mess. Wilder didnt drug test Povetkin...

VADA didn't sue Riabinski, so he don't have to sue them back

Riabinski counter law suit came only out of tactic reasons...

It was basically Wilder who made a countersuit. Riabinsky said from start of that he was planning to suit them, then Wilder actually did it for the show, and then Riabinsky actually did what he said, like he allways does.

True enough...Ryabinski immediately said when the postponement was announced... "We'll either meet you in the ring or meet you in court"

WADA was hacked by Hacktivists which revealed that Williams sisters were allowed to take a bunch of banned substances including steroids:

https://www.rt.com/sport/359215-wada-su ... ams-biles/

I am wondering if some boxers receive similar exceptions. We know about Mayweather's use of IV. Who else?

boxing_rocks wrote:WADA was hacked by Hacktivists which revealed that Williams sisters were allowed to take a bunch of banned substances including steroids:

https://www.rt.com/sport/359215-wada-su ... ams-biles/

I am wondering if some boxers receive similar exceptions. We know about Mayweather's use of IV. Who else?

To find out if its solid information or not, you wait to see if it comes on your nations 6pm TV News. If its not on there, then its bullshit. TV news has a huge organisation and everything has to be solid before it goes on there. Small current affairs like this just isnt trustworthy. Ill be looking for the news tonight to confirm all this.

foxdog1923 wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:WADA was hacked by Hacktivists which revealed that Williams sisters were allowed to take a bunch of banned substances including steroids:

https://www.rt.com/sport/359215-wada-su ... ams-biles/

I am wondering if some boxers receive similar exceptions. We know about Mayweather's use of IV. Who else?

To find out if its solid information or not, you wait to see if it comes on your nations 6pm TV News. If its not on there, then its bullshit. TV news has a huge organisation and everything has to be solid before it goes on there. Small current affairs like this just isnt trustworthy. Ill be looking for the news tonight to confirm all this.

Is BBC News big enough for you ?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-37352326

Here is Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sim ... f?section=&

boxing_rocks wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:WADA was hacked by Hacktivists which revealed that Williams sisters were allowed to take a bunch of banned substances including steroids:

https://www.rt.com/sport/359215-wada-su ... ams-biles/

I am wondering if some boxers receive similar exceptions. We know about Mayweather's use of IV. Who else?

To find out if its solid information or not, you wait to see if it comes on your nations 6pm TV News. If its not on there, then its bullshit. TV news has a huge organisation and everything has to be solid before it goes on there. Small current affairs like this just isnt trustworthy. Ill be looking for the news tonight to confirm all this.

Is BBC News big enough for you ?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-37352326

Here is Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sim ... f?section=&

Thats more like it. I now believe.

In future, use those links..

foxdog1923 wrote: In future, use those links..

Yes, Boss.

Boxing Writer wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: it hasn't even been proven yet that meldonium has any positive effects on athletes at all

So why then all Russian athletes take it? Just for the fun?

Plenty of Americans buy nitric oxide / o2 vasodilators from GNC. They think it could give them some benefit, but there's no proof that it does. They aren't overly concerned that taking it is a violation of doping rules, because it's not banned. But suppose suddenly the NYSAC banned nitric oxide and it turned out that it took 6-12 months for all trace amounts down to the nanogram to clear out of your system. You could stop taking it right now, as of the ban, but that wouldn't stop a few nanograms from showing-up on a test. Btw, vasodilators are already scarcely demonstrated to enhance performance, but how much do you think a billionth of a gram enhances your performances? Like seriously, steroids enhance your performance, but how much better do you think you would really be if you injected one / one hundred billionth of one syringe?

foxdog1923 wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:WADA was hacked by Hacktivists which revealed that Williams sisters were allowed to take a bunch of banned substances including steroids:

https://www.rt.com/sport/359215-wada-su ... ams-biles/

I am wondering if some boxers receive similar exceptions. We know about Mayweather's use of IV. Who else?

To find out if its solid information or not, you wait to see if it comes on your nations 6pm TV News. If its not on there, then its bullshit. TV news has a huge organisation and everything has to be solid before it goes on there. Small current affairs like this just isnt trustworthy. Ill be looking for the news tonight to confirm all this.

The media is legally allowed to lie.

There's no law forcing them to tell the truth to their audience, contrary to what they like to advertise to the gullible ones (like yourself).

Even in cases of life or death.

http://projectcensored.org/11-the-media ... gally-lie/

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States .

the Florida Appeals court claimed that the FCC policy against falsification of the news does not rise to the level of a “law, rule, or regulation,” it was simply a “policy.” Therefore, it is up to the station whether or not it wants to report honestly.

crow wrote: The media is legally allowed to lie.

There's no law forcing them to tell the truth to their audience, contrary to what they like to advertise to the gullible ones (like yourself).

Please provide proof where I have stated (in the post underneath that you are referring too) the media is not allowed to lie. This is important to your arguement that you prove that Ive said 'the media is not allowed to lie...you should believe what they say' or something like that otherwise you have just made yourself look STUPID.

foxdog1923 wrote:
To find out if its solid information or not, you wait to see if it comes on your nations 6pm TV News. If its not on there, then its bullshit. TV news has a huge organisation and everything has to be solid before it goes on there. Small current affairs like this just isnt trustworthy. Ill be looking for the news tonight to confirm all this.

You say the media is allowed to lie. So? Did I say theyre not? No. I actually acknowledged that there is bullshit media out there, this suggests I know theres bullshit media. Fuk you look dumb right now. Go wipe your bum cos I just made you sh1t your pants haha.

Love knocking these idiots out, too easy.

boxing_rocks wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:WADA was hacked by Hacktivists which revealed that Williams sisters were allowed to take a bunch of banned substances including steroids:

https://www.rt.com/sport/359215-wada-su ... ams-biles/

I am wondering if some boxers receive similar exceptions. We know about Mayweather's use of IV. Who else?

To find out if its solid information or not, you wait to see if it comes on your nations 6pm TV News. If its not on there, then its bullshit. TV news has a huge organisation and everything has to be solid before it goes on there. Small current affairs like this just isnt trustworthy. Ill be looking for the news tonight to confirm all this.

Is BBC News big enough for you ?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-37352326

Here is Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sim ... f?section=&

So, no comments about top athletes legally using steroids for years?