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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: you didn't answer the question.

Because it's not any 1 name you could point to. It's all of 'em.

I'll wake you up when he fights a Top 10 contender. You'll probably be sleeping for a while still.

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Because it's not any 1 name you could point to. It's all of 'em.

I'll wake you up when he fights a Top 10 contender. You'll probably be sleeping for a while still.

Wake me up when you make a post worth reading. Sadly, I can't put you on ignore like the rest of the idiots.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

I'll wake you up when he fights a Top 10 contender. You'll probably be sleeping for a while still.

Wake me up when you make a post worth reading. Sadly, I can't put you on ignore like the rest of the idiots.

Oh come now Saad. You'd ignore me over speaking the truth? Hell you agree with me MOST of the time. It's not my fault you're wrong in this particular instance.

montrealsuper wrote:If you really know boxing now, you KNOW Haymon is one very corrupt mofo. Thus why he has to hide like a rat from the media and the fans. He has a lot to hide obviously.

Now look at where Haymon is at now. This megalomaniac tried to take over boxing, to be it's Dana White/Vince McMahon. He fixed Floyd to stay undefeated for over a decade and rode that wave to start the $500m PBC which was schemed to install Haymon as the almighty ruler of boxing in American. But it FAILED. It failed miserably to create the new stars Haymon intended to create and control. You can only run boxing and call the shots if YOU HAVE A STAR TO CONTROL AND SELL. Haymon lost his leverage with Floyd fading out and PBC crashing. Now all Haymon has left is Wilder. And you can be certain 100% certain, Haymon will DO ANYTHING to make sure his final fraud Deontay Wilder does not lose. Whether it's planting a fake trace sample of a banned substance in Povetkin's sample or paying off Ortiz to dive like Malik Scott. Or paying off Ortiz to play soft and swallow punches like Stiverne. Wilder is Haymon's last chance to save his crashing empire.

If all this sounds too fantastic to believe, then go right ahead and believe Al Haymon is Mother Theresa and would never cheat lie corrupt or fix any fight because he loves the fans and he really doesn't care about $.

Imagine Wilder getting T/K.O by a carefully handpicked usual bum. The ref would have to count till 30 to save Donkey.

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
I'll wake you up when he fights a Top 10 contender. You'll probably be sleeping for a while still.

Wake me up when you make a post worth reading. Sadly, I can't put you on ignore like the rest of the idiots.

Oh come now Saad. You'd ignore me over speaking the truth? Hell you agree with me MOST of the time. It's not my fault you're wrong in this particular instance.

Saad is just emotionally attached of Donkey. He's riding Donkey's bbc like a maniac on this forum.

apollo creed wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Wake me up when you make a post worth reading. Sadly, I can't put you on ignore like the rest of the idiots.

Oh come now Saad. You'd ignore me over speaking the truth? Hell you agree with me MOST of the time. It's not my fault you're wrong in this particular instance.

Saad is just emotionally attached of Donkey. He's riding Donkey's bbc like a maniac on this forum.

Saad's a great poster, but for some reason he think it's not at all Wilder's fault that he hasn't fought more than one Top 10 contender in 38 fights and 5 Title defenses. Which is a ridiculous notion that I just can't get behind.

I realize that promoters protect fighters. I always realize Fighters can demand their promoters get them a meaningful fight or they'll go elsewhere. Wilder hasn't gone elsewhere...which tells me he WANTS to be protected.

gilgamesh wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Oh come now Saad. You'd ignore me over speaking the truth? Hell you agree with me MOST of the time. It's not my fault you're wrong in this particular instance.

Saad is just emotionally attached of Donkey. He's riding Donkey's bbc like a maniac on this forum.

Saad's a great poster, but for some reason he think it's not at all Wilder's fault that he hasn't fought more than one Top 10 contender in 38 fights and 5 Title defenses. Which is a ridiculous notion that I just can't get behind.

I realize that promoters protect fighters. I always realize Fighters can demand their promoters get them a meaningful fight or they'll go elsewhere. Wilder hasn't gone elsewhere...which tells me he WANTS to be protected.

Saad is by far the worst poster on this forum lol.

asdfjkl wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

apollo creed wrote:
Saad is just emotionally attached of Donkey. He's riding Donkey's bbc like a maniac on this forum.

Saad's a great poster, but for some reason he think it's not at all Wilder's fault that he hasn't fought more than one Top 10 contender in 38 fights and 5 Title defenses. Which is a ridiculous notion that I just can't get behind.

I realize that promoters protect fighters. I always realize Fighters can demand their promoters get them a meaningful fight or they'll go elsewhere. Wilder hasn't gone elsewhere...which tells me he WANTS to be protected.

Saad is by far the worst poster on this forum lol.

He's one of my favorites. Even when he gets pissy with me

gilgamesh wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Saad's a great poster, but for some reason he think it's not at all Wilder's fault that he hasn't fought more than one Top 10 contender in 38 fights and 5 Title defenses. Which is a ridiculous notion that I just can't get behind.

I realize that promoters protect fighters. I always realize Fighters can demand their promoters get them a meaningful fight or they'll go elsewhere. Wilder hasn't gone elsewhere...which tells me he WANTS to be protected.

Saad is by far the worst poster on this forum lol.

He's one of my favorites. Even when he gets pissy with me

I know that idiots could be funny, bit he remains the worst poster on this forum.

asdfjkl wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Saad is by far the worst poster on this forum lol.

He's one of my favorites. Even when he gets pissy with me

I know that idiots could be funny, bit he remains the worst poster on this forum.

He has more knowledge about the sport than at least 95% of the board. Most don't even come close.

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
I'll wake you up when he fights a Top 10 contender. You'll probably be sleeping for a while still.

Wake me up when you make a post worth reading. Sadly, I can't put you on ignore like the rest of the idiots.

Oh come now Saad. You'd ignore me over speaking the truth? Hell you agree with me MOST of the time. It's not my fault you're wrong in this particular instance.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Wake me up when you make a post worth reading. Sadly, I can't put you on ignore like the rest of the idiots.

Oh come now Saad. You'd ignore me over speaking the truth? Hell you agree with me MOST of the time. It's not my fault you're wrong in this particular instance.

See...this is what I mean when I say I still like him even when he gets pissy with me

gilgamesh wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Oh come now Saad. You'd ignore me over speaking the truth? Hell you agree with me MOST of the time. It's not my fault you're wrong in this particular instance.

Saad is just emotionally attached of Donkey. He's riding Donkey's bbc like a maniac on this forum.

Saad's a great poster, but for some reason he think it's not at all Wilder's fault that he hasn't fought more than one Top 10 contender in 38 fights and 5 Title defenses. Which is a ridiculous notion that I just can't get behind.

I realize that promoters protect fighters. I always realize Fighters can demand their promoters get them a meaningful fight or they'll go elsewhere. Wilder hasn't gone elsewhere...which tells me he WANTS to be protected.

Now you're desperate enough to make shit up? Pathetic.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

apollo creed wrote:
Saad is just emotionally attached of Donkey. He's riding Donkey's bbc like a maniac on this forum.

Saad's a great poster, but for some reason he think it's not at all Wilder's fault that he hasn't fought more than one Top 10 contender in 38 fights and 5 Title defenses. Which is a ridiculous notion that I just can't get behind.

I realize that promoters protect fighters. I always realize Fighters can demand their promoters get them a meaningful fight or they'll go elsewhere. Wilder hasn't gone elsewhere...which tells me he WANTS to be protected.

Now you're desperate enough to make poo up? Pathetic.

What am I making up?

I've never absolved Wilder of all blame for his resume. Not once. What you fail to acknowledge is that he is not a desired opponent. Anyway, no need to continue a topic where you roll in the mud with the worst of pigs.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I've never absolved Wilder of all blame for his resume. Not once. What you fail to acknowledge is that he is not a desired opponent. Anyway, no need to continue a topic where you roll in the mud with the worst of pigs.

Fighters always want a shot at a "World Champion". I find it hard to believe that in 3 years not one Top 10 opponent has wanted a crack at him.

Also I never said you absolved Wilder of all blame, but I never see you doing anything except defending him even though there's very little reason to defend him on a lot of the things associated with his career. The things that he does deserve defending on even I defend him on.

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I've never absolved Wilder of all blame for his resume. Not once. What you fail to acknowledge is that he is not a desired opponent. Anyway, no need to continue a topic where you roll in the mud with the worst of pigs.

Fighters always want a shot at a "World Champion". I find it hard to believe that in 3 years not one Top 10 opponent has wanted a crack at him.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I've never absolved Wilder of all blame for his resume. Not once. What you fail to acknowledge is that he is not a desired opponent. Anyway, no need to continue a topic where you roll in the mud with the worst of pigs.

What is it you find SO offensive about me merely acknowledging that Wilder hasn't fought a Top 10 opponent in his title reign? That's a 100% fact Saad. I'm not making that sh*t up.

Tell me one goddamn thing I've said about Wilder that isn't true...don't worry...I'll wait.

Wilder knows he has to be protected because he's nothing. He's along for the ride, full trust in his lord and savior Al Haymon.

If Wilder had one iota of self confidence he would have fought a known name tough opponent NOT controlled by his puppetmaster. But he hasn't, he won't and he can't. Because in a REAL fight without any Haymon fixing and corruption, Wilder will go down like a house of cards. The choreographed duck of Povetkin was the defining moment of this fraud's illusion of a career.

Wilder can't draw flies and he can't generate any money outside of Alabama where the fraud act is wearing thin too. I suspect the most absurd is yet to come with this gigantic hoax of a pretender masquerading as a heavyweight belt holder. In actuality, Wilder is nothing but an Alabama heavyweight champion with all the right connections.

Until this two bit hoax finally steps outside of Haymon's protective box, he's nothing but a WWE cheese chump pretender.

Wilder will insist that it isn't his fault that his opponents keep defaulting. Let's face it, with Wlad gone the HW division is thinner than his resume. Ortiz, Parker, Pulev, Chisora and Whyte etc need to demonstrate they mean business and the rest are unproven.

With a mega fight with AJ looming, do we believe Deontay? Or even blame him? Why risk the only mega money fight right now? So as Mills Lane used to say 'Let's Get it On!' Boxing is a professional sport. Sometimes. Sometimes, as we recently saw, its just big business.
AJ v Wilder will be both.

This is the best way for Wilder to end all the keyboard warrior finger pointing. Fight the man Deontay, put up or shut up!

Is cheating the fans/public! Those who put their money in Donkey's pockets! Donkey ain't nothing but a protected hypejob!

Enlightened-One wrote:

candyslim wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: According to the WBC’s own rules, Luis Ortiz should automatically receive an immediate suspension from participating in any WBC sanctioned event, including those of any WBC-affiliated organisations.

It’s technically possible for Wilder and Ortiz to still fight, if the bout is sanctioned by another organisation, such as the hideously rancid LBF (as we saw with Haye-Chisora), but I doubt that Deontay Wilder would want to be stripped of his WBC world title, due to circumventing their rules.

As far as I know though, the WBC hasn’t officially announced their intention to suspend Luis Ortiz yet, but I can’t see them allowing the Cuban to fight for one of their world titles.

In regards to accusations about VADA being corrupt and unduly influenced by Al Haymon… I think you’re talking pure bóllócks!

Thanks for your input EO. I’m sure Wilder is not going to be doing anything to put his WBC title in jeopardy and who could blame him?

As to my talking bollocks (British word by the way – no need for all the pretentious grave and acute accent bollocks) I wouldn’t exclude the possibility.

In fact I sometimes wish I were as certain about anything, as half the posters on here are about everything !

I only use the French accents to avoid certain words from being masked or substituted automatically whenever I submit posts.

Corruption happens in all sports, but these sort of allegations are far too commonplace in this forum.

I'm a firm believer in refraining from prematurely jumping to conclusions, by issuing seriously slanderous allegations, whilst there's a complete absence of any evidence to warrant the justification for such accusations.

It's clearly your prerogative to adopt a different mindset than the one I possess. And I respect the fact that you're entitled to your own opinion.

I'm jumping to no conclusions EO I'm trying to keep an open mind and considering the possibilities. The trouble with waiting for there to be clear evidence of foul play is that those who may or may not be tilting the pinball machine, are shrewd operators. There will be no smoking gun, the best we're going to get is an ever-growing pile of circumstantial ... I hesitate to call it evidence, just a bad smell that grows increasingly pungent.

I was very conscious of the potentially slanderous nature of my post over a month ago where I predicted this fight would not get made, I didn't even expect it to get this far. So in order to minimize any risk of anyone's annoyance taking tangible form, as well as for (hopefully) the entertainment / amusement of the reader, I presented it in the form of a short play where all the real life characters had their names altered in a way that wouldn't fool a ten year old boxing fan, or so I thought..

Your verdict was immediate: "off topic" you said, "The characters are fictional" (really EO a man of your intelligence!). A few posters made it clear they enjoyed it in the short time it spent on current scene before being declared off-topic and moved to where threads go to die, by a mod who couldn't be bothered to read it, and didn't understand the bit he did read. The thread was ironically titled "A work of pure fiction ... (?)". So much for taking care to protect against any slander allegations. It's still there if anyone's interested. It's hardly Shakespeare, but I thought it was my best ever post on this forum.