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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 18:54
by keithmoonhangover
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:48
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:45
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:44

:lol:

World title boxing promoters? Zero? You?
How many boxing promoters of any kind do you know?
What difference does it make, I don’t care what some local promoter does, I was specifically talking about world level boxing.

Please don’t regale me with the tales of local boxing promoters cause I literally have less interest in that than this conversation you’ve already ruined.
:zzz:

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 18:57
by Ruthless-RKO
Bloody hell you guys still going at it?

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 19:41
by Anhedonia
I was a member of this forum years ago (long since forgotten username/password)

But I do recall that Keith Hangover was as much a boring, over opinionated knob then as he is now.

You have to applaud his consistency.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 19:47
by danconnollyeire
Anhedonia wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 19:41 I was a member of this forum years ago (long since forgotten username/password)

But I do recall that Keith Hangover was as much a boring, over opinionated knob then as he is now.

You have to applaud his consistency.
Welcome back asjklut or whatever you’re called

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 20:52
by ElJefe
Not really sure why that argument lasted so long :lol: And I don't want to reignite it but isn't it sort of irrelevant if promoters explicitly mention race in promoting fights? We all know they can't really openly say stuff like that now. But that doesn't mean that they're not thinking it? The race element is not just completely brought into the equation by the fans. And even if it was, I'm not sure that being aware of it is an example of bigotry. You can observe things like that without it actually being important to you in terms of who you want to win.

Was Mayweather fighting Latino fighters so often just a coincidence? They don't come out and say "It's a Latin fighter against a Black American", but it doesn't mean it's not a factor for them. The fans don't completely invent that. Floyd justified choosing to fight JMM over Mosley by saying that JMM would do more PPVs as he had Mexico behind him. Its natural.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 21:30
by Covfefe
ElJefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 20:52 Not really sure why that argument lasted so long :lol: And I don't want to reignite it but isn't it sort of irrelevant if promoters explicitly mention race in promoting fights? We all know they can't really openly say stuff like that now. But that doesn't mean that they're not thinking it? The race element is not just completely brought into the equation by the fans. And even if it was, I'm not sure that being aware of it is an example of bigotry. You can observe things like that without it actually being important to you in terms of who you want to win.

Was Mayweather fighting Latino fighters so often just a coincidence? They don't come out and say "It's a Latin fighter against a Black American", but it doesn't mean it's not a factor for them. The fans don't completely invent that. Floyd justified choosing to fight JMM over Mosley by saying that JMM would do more PPVs as he had Mexico behind him. Its natural.
It absolutely is bigotry to want a fighter to win simply because of their race. As was what I was responding to, highlighting it and being aware of it being a factor for some obviously isn't.

And Mayweather would have fought anyone who generated money, Mexicans in America just bring money and fans, he didn't fight them because they were Mexicans, he fought them because Mexicans have huge support. I'm sure his record would be littered with as many Canadians if they had the talent and support and spent money on the sport like Mexican fans.

The point about promoters was to someone mentioning his friends getting into the McGregor Mayweather fight because they wanted to see the white guy beat the black guy and I said it wasn't promoted like that and boxing hasn't promoted like that in years, it wasn't even aimed at anybody just a remark, seems to have upset people though for some odd reason.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 00:17
by jamamb
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 16:29 Kinda a slip up by the Commentary crew there. Acting as if Wilder is a switch hitter and sometimes fights Southpaw? I've never seen that. Maybe in Sparring he does that, but I don't recall him ever turning Southpaw in a fight.
goes along with the whole narrative of him being wildly unpredictable, even though hes super jab right hand heavy and so many of his fights follow the same pattern

now people are taking it to a new level and just making sh!t up

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 00:40
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 00:17
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 16:29 Kinda a slip up by the Commentary crew there. Acting as if Wilder is a switch hitter and sometimes fights Southpaw? I've never seen that. Maybe in Sparring he does that, but I don't recall him ever turning Southpaw in a fight.
goes along with the whole narrative of him being wildly unpredictable, even though hes super jab right hand heavy and so many of his fights follow the same pattern

now people are taking it to a new level and just making sh!t up
:lol: yeah

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 00:44
by Covfefe
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 00:40
jamamb wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 00:17
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 16:29 Kinda a slip up by the Commentary crew there. Acting as if Wilder is a switch hitter and sometimes fights Southpaw? I've never seen that. Maybe in Sparring he does that, but I don't recall him ever turning Southpaw in a fight.
goes along with the whole narrative of him being wildly unpredictable, even though hes super jab right hand heavy and so many of his fights follow the same patterns

now people are taking it to a new level and just making sh!t up
:lol: yeah
I heard that too watching the fight. I genuinely thought I’ve never seen him do that either. He’s probably done it once. :lol:

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 05:03
by Anhedonia
danconnollyeire wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 19:47 Welcome back asjklut or whatever you’re called
Thank you

I remember you Dan, you were always accusing people of being PIGG

search.php?keywords=pigg&terms=all&auth ... mit=Search

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 06:03
by magnus
handsofstone wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 14:26
magnus wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 13:57 If only Frank had access to a tv platform where he could show the undercard, before switching to BT for the main event(s).
As far as I'm aware Warren has zero ties with BN these days, the Conlan homecoming was his last, BN are working with MTK from now on
He's one of the directors of the company, I thought?

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 06:54
by keirw
Covfefe wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 00:44
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 00:40
jamamb wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 00:17

goes along with the whole narrative of him being wildly unpredictable, even though hes super jab right hand heavy and so many of his fights follow the same patterns

now people are taking it to a new level and just making sh!t up
:lol: yeah
I heard that too watching the fight. I genuinely thought I’ve never seen him do that either. He’s probably done it once. :lol:
Sometimes when he misses wildly with a right hand his feet cross over and he takes a few seconds to realize seconds and adjust them back.

That's not switcg hitting, it's just poor technique.

Froch used to do it sometimes aswell.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 10:26
by gilgamesh
keirw wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 06:54
Covfefe wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 00:44
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 00:40

:lol: yeah
I heard that too watching the fight. I genuinely thought I’ve never seen him do that either. He’s probably done it once. :lol:
Sometimes when he misses wildly with a right hand his feet cross over and he takes a few seconds to realize seconds and adjust them back.

That's not switcg hitting, it's just poor technique.

Froch used to do it sometimes aswell.
Yeah. I've never seen him STAY in the Southpaw stance, and start throwing his right jab, and straight left and all that. Never.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 11:08
by Datsue
keirw wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 06:54 Sometimes when he misses wildly with a right hand his feet cross over and he takes a few seconds to realize seconds and adjust them back.
:TU:

That is definitely the only time I've seen Wilder southpaw, when he's crossed his feet after lunging off-balance behind that right hand.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 13:18
by TheGman
So i havent seen the fights from last night,so how did fury do? I picked a guy up who was watching the fight but got off at round 8 he said fury was getting beat?

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 13:54
by handsofstone
thechump wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 13:18 So i havent seen the fights from last night,so how did fury do? I picked a guy up who was watching the fight but got off at round 8 he said fury was getting beat?
Did your passenger have a fake tan, dodgy quiff, Essex accent and an air of self importance, also might have been travelling with Kugan Cassius and Anthony Sims

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 14:21
by Counter-puncher
handsofstone wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 13:54
thechump wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 13:18 So i havent seen the fights from last night,so how did fury do? I picked a guy up who was watching the fight but got off at round 8 he said fury was getting beat?
Did your passenger have a fake tan, dodgy quiff, Essex accent and an air of self importance, also might have been travelling with Kugan Cassius and Anthony Sims
:lol: :clap:

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 14:50
by Londonirish
Counter-puncher wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 14:21
handsofstone wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 13:54
thechump wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 13:18 So i havent seen the fights from last night,so how did fury do? I picked a guy up who was watching the fight but got off at round 8 he said fury was getting beat?
Did your passenger have a fake tan, dodgy quiff, Essex accent and an air of self importance, also might have been travelling with Kugan Cassius and Anthony Sims
:lol: :clap:
:OhYes: :lol:

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 18:22
by TheGman
handsofstone wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 13:54
thechump wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 13:18 So i havent seen the fights from last night,so how did fury do? I picked a guy up who was watching the fight but got off at round 8 he said fury was getting beat?
Did your passenger have a fake tan, dodgy quiff, Essex accent and an air of self importance, also might have been travelling with Kugan Cassius and Anthony Sims
Thought you were gonna say Donald Trump then lol
Saying that he was sort of arhuing with me that fury held all the belts including WBC and was acting like i didnt have a clue till i got the boxrec record book out and showed him. They soon shut up.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 07:32
by danconnollyeire
Anhedonia wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 05:03
danconnollyeire wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 19:47 Welcome back asjklut or whatever you’re called
Thank you

I remember you Dan, you were always accusing people of being PIGG

search.php?keywords=pigg&terms=all&auth ... mit=Search
Takes a special kind of mental health issues to search back 4 years on one of your many old profiles

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 12:45
by Anhedonia
danconnollyeire wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 07:32
Takes a special kind of mental health issues to search back 4 years on one of your many old profiles
Let's go DAN, let's go DAN :TU:

NB: And it was YOUR profile I searched DAN (see the link provided)

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 12:58
by Anhedonia
danconnollyeire wrote: Don't worry, mods zapped him, it was Pigg
:stop:

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 13:23
by Stuarty
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:02
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:44
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:42

It wasn't SOLD that way anywhere. That's why I said it was an unspoken thing.
Perhaps you said it first I’m reading the thread backwards...fair dos.

Yeah I’m sure some see it that way. I’m sure some looked at Khan-Salita in similar terms. Best ignored in my view.
Khan-Salita sold loads of tickets to Muslims and Jews. I was at that fight, it was a wild night in and out of the arena.
There were loads of brash NY/Jersey Jews in my hotel. They were fuckin wanks! Same hotel as Kevin Mitchell who I spoke with before and after the fight. Nice guy. No cockfeeding though :o

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 13:28
by Stuarty
thechump wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 18:22
handsofstone wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 13:54
thechump wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 13:18 So i havent seen the fights from last night,so how did fury do? I picked a guy up who was watching the fight but got off at round 8 he said fury was getting beat?
Did your passenger have a fake tan, dodgy quiff, Essex accent and an air of self importance, also might have been travelling with Kugan Cassius and Anthony Sims
Thought you were gonna say Donald Trump then lol
Saying that he was sort of arhuing with me that fury held all the belts including WBC and was acting like i didnt have a clue till i got the boxrec record book out and showed him. They soon shut up.
Eddie is the Trump of boxing. Making PPV great again :yay:

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 18:32
by Ruthless-RKO
Message from Luke Jackson..

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