JamesPhilips wrote: ↑28 Apr 2021, 12:54
I just cannot get excited for this bill. It’s awfully uninspiring. I don’t even care who wins out of Chisora Parker. I genuinely cannot understand what kind of punter pays for this. And tragically, I’ve paid for most PPVs over the year but can see no reason to get this.
Is anyone here buying it?
Not this one, I've just been stretched too much paying 20 quid for shows like this and I can't be bothered anymore. Not one fight on the show appeals to me and the sterile atmosphere just kills it
I'm not paying for it.
Neither guy is ppv, Chisora has never had a ppv worthy fight, and Parker Vs AJ is the only one I paid for. Hindsight tells me it wasn't ppv either
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 29 Apr 2021, 17:33
by brian13
stujones wrote: ↑29 Apr 2021, 08:18
Yeah the appealing part of the original fight was Taylor vs Prograis.
All I feel Taylor vs Jonas will do is make Taylor vs Harper less sellable
Harper had an off night against Jonas. I much rather see Taylor v Harper as it will be at least somewhat competitive unlike Saturday's fight.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 29 Apr 2021, 18:04
by ThereByTheGrace
I really like parker as a person. I just dont think he has the spite to be a top top heavyweight.
Wouldnt be surprised if chisora beats him and if he does his career would be as good as done.
gregregegg wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 06:15
Parker will beat the shit out of him. just like he would of done to whyte had he not being headbutted. chis and whytes style works for Parker.
Disagree. Parker has better skills than Chis but he doesn't do well against fighters who come forward and keep the pressure on. I put this mainly down to Kevin Barry’s training so hopefully we will see an improved Parker under Andy Lee.
Parker by UD but unlikely he will “beat the shit out of him”
When has he not done well against those kind of fighter. Befor that head clash he was dominating Whyte (admitadly not long), he beat Ruiz (draw for me but still good) and beat taken. They are the only walk forwards guys of any levle he has fought. I’d say he does best against walk towards guys.
Those 3 are the examples I was thinking of. His performance against Whyte is questionable because of the head clash but imo he never found any rhythm or dominance vs Ruiz or Takam. Both decisions could’ve gone the other way. With Takam he seemed to not know how to handle him. He just throw flurries of punches and moved away not knowing what to do.
Regardless, I look forward to see how he handles Chisora under to guidance of Andy Lee. Should be a good match up
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 04:12
by stujones
Anyone else noticed the lack of sky presence in the bubble.. ...usually at this stage Nelson, Smith , Bellew would have been interviewed by ifl etc....but nothing
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 05:04
by KiwiRider
The New Zealand TV advert for the fight says:
" Win, and Parker is just one step away from another world title".
Geeze I hope the casuals who swallow that bollarky are patient.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 05:05
by Ruthless-RKO
stujones wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 04:12
Anyone else noticed the lack of sky presence in the bubble.. ...usually at this stage Nelson, Smith , Bellew would have been interviewed by ifl etc....but nothing
Even at weigh ins.. the presenters have been Matchroom guys fir a while.
Don’t worry about Bellew. I’m sure Eddeh will employ him for Matchroom.. (hope not)
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 05:07
by KiwiRider
ThereByTheGrace wrote: ↑29 Apr 2021, 18:04
I really like parker as a person. I just dont think he has the spite to be a top top heavyweight.
Wouldnt be surprised if chisora beats him and if he does his career would be as good as done.
Let's see what his new team has done.
Kevin Robber Baron Barry was never a champion level coach.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 05:18
by a force
KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 05:04
The New Zealand TV advert for the fight says:
" Win, and Parker is just one step away from another world title".
Geeze I hope the casuals who swallow that bollarky are patient.
In fairness he’s probably right. If Fury-Joshua happens I can see both retiring afterwards & all the belts will be vacant. Anyone high in the rankings will be in line for shots such as the winner of Parker-Chisora, Usyk, Whyte, Wilder, Joyce, Hrgovic etc
Disagree. Parker has better skills than Chis but he doesn't do well against fighters who come forward and keep the pressure on. I put this mainly down to Kevin Barry’s training so hopefully we will see an improved Parker under Andy Lee.
Parker by UD but unlikely he will “beat the shit out of him”
When has he not done well against those kind of fighter. Befor that head clash he was dominating Whyte (admitadly not long), he beat Ruiz (draw for me but still good) and beat taken. They are the only walk forwards guys of any levle he has fought. I’d say he does best against walk towards guys.
Those 3 are the examples I was thinking of. His performance against Whyte is questionable because of the head clash but imo he never found any rhythm or dominance vs Ruiz or Takam. Both decisions could’ve gone the other way. With Takam he seemed to not know how to handle him. He just throw flurries of punches and moved away not knowing what to do.
Regardless, I look forward to see how he handles Chisora under to guidance of Andy Lee. Should be a good match up
I still fancy Parker to win on points but it’s a massive change only 8 weeks before a fight. Hope he’s not caught between two styles & that he’s been able to get good sparring over in Dublin
Joseph Parker hopes that a win over Derek Chisora at the AO Arena, Manchester this Saturday May 1, live on Sky Sports Box Office in the UK and DAZN in all markets excluding the UK, Ireland, China, New Zealand and Samoa, will kickstart his route back to the top of the Heavyweight division.
Former WBO World Champion Parker (28-2, 21 KOs) is fresh off a hard-fought 12-round decision over long-time amateur nemesis Junior Fa at Spark Arena in Auckland, New Zealand that settled an 11-year old rivalry with his compatriot.
Ranked at No.3 with the WBO, Parker recently teamed up with former Middleweight World Champion Andy Lee, and the 29-year-old knows an impressive stoppage of the teak-tough Chisora would propel him closer to his ambition of becoming a two-time World Champion.
“I’m very prepared for this fight, I’ve had a great training camp with Andy in Ireland, then we moved over to Morecambe and got some great sparring under our belt, great pad work, bag, everything," said Parker. "I feel like with this fight, physically and mentally, I’m in a great place – probably the best I’ve been in a while.
"You will see some good changes. I'll be sharper, with better movement and better footwork. I'll be focused for the whole fight. If I execute the game-plan that Andy has put in place, it should be a good night for Team Parker. I expect Derek to be Derek - to apply pressure from the beginning, throwing punches and bombs.
“Two totally different styles, Junior Fa’s style was move and hug, punch every now and then. With Derek it’s no secret, he’s going to come forward and apply the pressure, throw punches everywhere. My hands are going to have to be up, down and all around.
"I've been a World Champion before and I want to be World champion again. In order to achieve that goal I have to get Derek out of the way first. Then set up the other fights that are out there. We've done everything we can to prepare for whatever he brings.
“I think this is the perfect fight at the right time. We’re right there, get a good victory and there’s many other great fights out there to be made and to position yourself when the titles are free to fight for. This is a big card, not only the main event but the undercard fights are very exciting, I’m looking forward to Saturday.”
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 08:11
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 08:31
by stujones
Matchroom are producing the weigh in - is it on Sky Sports News at all?
All a bit sad really.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 08:42
by Ruthless-RKO
stujones wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 08:31
Matchroom are producing the weigh in - is it on Sky Sports News at all?
All a bit sad really.
Matchroom have been producing the weigh-ins for a while..
Sky SPorts are showing it too on their facebook and youtube,
It's only the BIG fights that Sky Sports News is used.
stujones wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 08:31
Matchroom are producing the weigh in - is it on Sky Sports News at all?
All a bit sad really.
Matchroom have been producing the weigh-ins for a while..
Sky SPorts are showing it too on their facebook and youtube,
It's only the BIG fights that Sky Sports News is used.
This is a PPV - can't get much bigger (on paper).
This just has the feeling of Sky having less involvement, When you compare the Gilbratar fights - when the "sky team" were interviewed all the time by the youtubers and the open work outs shown on sky sports news.
stujones wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 08:31
Matchroom are producing the weigh in - is it on Sky Sports News at all?
All a bit sad really.
Matchroom have been producing the weigh-ins for a while..
Sky SPorts are showing it too on their facebook and youtube,
It's only the BIG fights that Sky Sports News is used.
This is a PPV - can't get much bigger (on paper).
This just has the feeling of Sky having less involvement, When you compare the Gilbratar fights - when the "sky team" were interviewed all the time by the youtubers and the open work outs shown on sky sports news.
There is only one more ky show after this isn't there?
I guess this is a phase out process..
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 09:15
by stujones
Feels like Sky have thrown their toys out a bit, but you dont blame them
Taylor (17-0, 6 KOs) weighed 134.8 pounds for the 10th defense of at least one lightweight title.
Jonas (9-1-1, 7 KOs) weighed 134.7 pounds for her second career title fight.
Bivol (17-0, 11 KOs) weighed 174.1 pounds.
Richards (16-1-1, 9 KOs) was 174.6 pounds for his first career title fight.
Chris Eubank Jr. (29-2, 22 KOs) weighed 161.9 pounds.
Marcus Morrison (23-3, 16 KOs) hit the scale at 161.8 pounds.
Below are the weights for the rest of the undercard.
Campbell Hatton (1-0, 0 KOs), Manchester, 135.9 pounds vs. Levi Dunn (0-4, 0 KOs), Lancashire, 134.5 pounds
Johnny Fisher (1-0, 1 KO), London, 245.7 pounds vs. Phil Williams (3-27-1, 1 KO), Swindon, England, 268.7 pounds
James Tennyson (28-3, 24 KOs), Belfast, 134.6 pounds vs. Jovanni Straffon (23-3-1, 16 KOs), Mexico City, 133.2 pounds
Scott Fitzgerald (14-0, 9 KOs), Preston, England, 169.4 pounds vs. Gregory Trenel (13-6-2, 3 KOs), Dainville, France, 166.2 pounds
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 09:30
by brilo33
fitzy back on this card , been out awhile interesting what shape he is in
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - 1 May 2021
Posted: 30 Apr 2021, 09:54
by Ruthless-RKO
brilo33 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 09:30
fitzy back on this card , been out awhile interesting what shape he is in