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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 19:09
by margaret thatcher
lazboy wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:08
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:06
oogiebe wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:06

Parker never excited me. Seems his claim to fame was being the first to go the distance with AJ. He's a second rater.
beating ruiz too
I don’t reckon he beat Ruiz and I said that well before Ruiz AJ 1.
he did beat him though

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 19:10
by Enlightened-One
I just can’t believe one of the judges only gave Chisora two rounds from the 2nd onwards! :o

WFT! :brick:

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 19:10
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:06
oogiebe wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:06
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:05 I had it 115-113 Parker..

The app I use. Majority had rd12 10-10 for a 114-114..
Parker never excited me. Seems his claim to fame was being the first to go the distance with AJ. He's a second rater.
beating ruiz too
true, but another one that could've gone either way or been a draw.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 19:15
by lazboy
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:09
lazboy wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:08
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:06

beating ruiz too
I don’t reckon he beat Ruiz and I said that well before Ruiz AJ 1.
he did beat him though
Oh...I get your point. He was a big name in NZ and basically the Oceania region though, before the Ruiz fight. Had money behind him. He was marketed as the fastest hands in the heavyweight division.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 19:21
by Enlightened-One
lazboy wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:15
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:09
lazboy wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:08

I don’t reckon he beat Ruiz and I said that well before Ruiz AJ 1.
he did beat him though
Oh...I get your point. He was a big name in NZ and basically the Oceania region though, before the Ruiz fight. Had money behind him. He was marketed as the fastest hands in the heavyweight division.
The judges’ scoring for the Ruiz Jr. fight was deemed so bad that the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president actually resigned because of it.

He even said, “It’s bulls****, Joseph Parker didn’t win...I scored it 118-111 in favour of Ruiz”.

One of the judges tonight only gave Chisora two rounds from the second round onwards.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 19:22
by margaret thatcher
it was a close fight, tbh 118-111 seems a bit ridiculous

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 19:25
by lazboy
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:21
lazboy wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:15
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:09

he did beat him though
Oh...I get your point. He was a big name in NZ and basically the Oceania region though, before the Ruiz fight. Had money behind him. He was marketed as the fastest hands in the heavyweight division.
The judges’ scoring for the Ruiz Jr. fight was deemed so bad that the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president actually resigned because of it.

He even said, “It’s bulls****, Joseph Parker didn’t win...I scored it 118-111 in favour of Ruiz”.

One of the judges tonight only gave Chisora two rounds from the second round onwards.
Oh really...terrible. Just from memory, I recall Ruiz Parker being close but clear. Shame about Chisora. Hopefully he can make some money from a rematch, if that happens. Can’t really see much public demand for it though.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 19:39
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Parker is inaccurate and doesnt have a second gear.

Chisora fought well enough to win

Parker can exit the top 10

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 19:48
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 19:50
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 20:27
by Enlightened-One
lazboy wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:25
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:21
lazboy wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:15

Oh...I get your point. He was a big name in NZ and basically the Oceania region though, before the Ruiz fight. Had money behind him. He was marketed as the fastest hands in the heavyweight division.
The judges’ scoring for the Ruiz Jr. fight was deemed so bad that the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president actually resigned because of it.

He even said, “It’s bulls****, Joseph Parker didn’t win...I scored it 118-111 in favour of Ruiz”.

One of the judges tonight only gave Chisora two rounds from the second round onwards.
Oh really...terrible. Just from memory, I recall Ruiz Parker being close but clear. Shame about Chisora. Hopefully he can make some money from a rematch, if that happens. Can’t really see much public demand for it though.
I quote the words of the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president.

If you don’t like what he said, send him a strongly-worded letter or email. :lol:

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 20:45
by lazboy
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 May 2021, 20:27
lazboy wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:25
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 May 2021, 19:21

The judges’ scoring for the Ruiz Jr. fight was deemed so bad that the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president actually resigned because of it.

He even said, “It’s bulls****, Joseph Parker didn’t win...I scored it 118-111 in favour of Ruiz”.

One of the judges tonight only gave Chisora two rounds from the second round onwards.
Oh really...terrible. Just from memory, I recall Ruiz Parker being close but clear. Shame about Chisora. Hopefully he can make some money from a rematch, if that happens. Can’t really see much public demand for it though.
I quote the words of the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president.

If you don’t like what he said, send him a strongly-worded letter or email. :lol:
I had meant...'Oh really, interesting to hear that. And also, terrible that Parker was awarded that decision.' I remember a closer fight than 118-111 but I felt that Ruiz was the clear winner.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 01 May 2021, 22:25
by Boxtune
Pulev beat chisora so easy that i stoped watching chisora fights ever again. Whyte, chisora and Parker would lose to Pulev even today.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 04:45
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 05:26
by splashitallover
Parker does in bursts show that he has talent. Fast hands, good chin, conditioning..........but, he is so frustrating to watch as he just doesnt let his hands go enough.........he is very passive, maybe a confidence issue that maybe spending more time in the Kronk set up with Andy Lee may fix.........

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 06:25
by DrDuke
Sh!t fight.

Sh!t scores.

Parker won clearly, but not spectacularly.

Both didn't show improvements with new coaches.

Chisora worked a lot, but he was so f*cking ineffective. Parker was scoring more. Overall, there was a lot of boring hustling without both of them hurting each other.

Chisora's complaining about the scores and being robbed often was so pathetic. Hopefully Chisora gets KTFOed next. Match him against Dubois.

Parker gotta fight the likes of Wilder, Ortiz, Usyk-Joyce loser.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 07:04
by gregregegg
Talk if Parker vs chis 2 is baddd. Hopefully the ppv numbers are low enough that Eddie dosent attempt that shit... but at the same time, what else is Eddie going to do with those 2...

Parker vs Ruiz rematch would be fun. Both are big names, ex world champs, coming of 2 lacklustre results, I’d be suprised if either have bigger fight opportunitys right now.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 07:09
by margaret thatcher
ya i dont want to see parker-chis 2 right now, i find immediate rematches stale unless the first fight was either highly controversial or some type of atg war

usyk needs to get active and doesnt seem to want to fight joyce. i keep saying it, but get usyk-parker made, both matchroom as well

chisora's kinda tough to match because he's already fought so many guys, and then many of the ones he hasnt are off with pbc or busy with eliminator stuff. i bet joyce would fight him

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 07:27
by joshj909
Chisora has had 4 rematches in his career. In the 2 that he lost the first fight, he lost more decisively in the rematch. Even in one of the fights that he won initially, he took longer to get the KO in the rematch.

Parker should move on to one of the unbeaten prospects coming through. Chisora should face Helenius should he lose to Kownacki or maybe Hughie if not.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 07:33
by DrDuke
joshj909 wrote: 02 May 2021, 07:27 Chisora should face Helenius should he lose to Kownacki or maybe Hughie if not.
Sounds like good matchups, except Hughie. Helenius will likely ice Chisora now. Kownacki sounds competetive, as both aggressors without much of thought and skill.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 08:18
by Syntax Error
DrDuke wrote: 02 May 2021, 06:25 Sh!t fight.

Sh!t scores.

Parker won clearly, but not spectacularly.

Both didn't show improvements with new coaches.

Chisora worked a lot, but he was so f*cking ineffective. Parker was scoring more. Overall, there was a lot of boring hustling without both of them hurting each other.

Chisora's complaining about the scores and being robbed often was so pathetic. Hopefully Chisora gets KTFOed next. Match him against Dubois.

Parker gotta fight the likes of Wilder, Ortiz, Usyk-Joyce loser.
I'm getting a bit bored of Chisora complaining about being robbed.

He should try and get a fight with Wilder next, then he'll get poleaxed and hopefully he'll have nothing to complain about.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 08:24
by DrDuke
Syntax Error wrote: 02 May 2021, 08:18
DrDuke wrote: 02 May 2021, 06:25 Sh!t fight.

Sh!t scores.

Parker won clearly, but not spectacularly.

Both didn't show improvements with new coaches.

Chisora worked a lot, but he was so f*cking ineffective. Parker was scoring more. Overall, there was a lot of boring hustling without both of them hurting each other.

Chisora's complaining about the scores and being robbed often was so pathetic. Hopefully Chisora gets KTFOed next. Match him against Dubois.

Parker gotta fight the likes of Wilder, Ortiz, Usyk-Joyce loser.
I'm getting a bit bored of Chisora complaining about being robbed.

He should try and get a fight with Wilder next, then he'll get poleaxed and hopefully he'll have nothing to complain about.
:TU: The crybaby deservs that.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 08:29
by candyslim
margaret thatcher wrote: 02 May 2021, 07:09 ya i dont want to see parker-chis 2 right now, i find immediate rematches stale unless the first fight was either highly controversial or some type of atg war

usyk needs to get active and doesnt seem to want to fight joyce. i keep saying it, but get usyk-parker made, both matchroom as well

chisora's kinda tough to match because he's already fought so many guys, and then many of the ones he hasnt are off with pbc or busy with eliminator stuff. i bet joyce would fight him
IIRC Chisora turned down the opportunity to fight Joyce when Joyce was about 4 and 0. He might be more receptive now that beating Joyce would earn him a lot of respect not to mention money.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 08:35
by candyslim
DrDuke wrote: 02 May 2021, 08:24
Syntax Error wrote: 02 May 2021, 08:18
DrDuke wrote: 02 May 2021, 06:25 Sh!t fight.

Sh!t scores.

Parker won clearly, but not spectacularly.

Both didn't show improvements with new coaches.

Chisora worked a lot, but he was so f*cking ineffective. Parker was scoring more. Overall, there was a lot of boring hustling without both of them hurting each other.

Chisora's complaining about the scores and being robbed often was so pathetic. Hopefully Chisora gets KTFOed next. Match him against Dubois.

Parker gotta fight the likes of Wilder, Ortiz, Usyk-Joyce loser.
I'm getting a bit bored of Chisora complaining about being robbed.

He should try and get a fight with Wilder next, then he'll get poleaxed and hopefully he'll have nothing to complain about.
:TU: The crybaby deservs that.
By 'crybaby' you are referring to Chisora? Oh the irony! Somehow I don't think Delboy fits the criteria for a Wilder comeback opponent. He isn't a PBC fighter and he's very likely to hit him back.. :D

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora - May 1, 2021

Posted: 02 May 2021, 08:38
by DrDuke
candyslim wrote: 02 May 2021, 08:35
DrDuke wrote: 02 May 2021, 08:24
Syntax Error wrote: 02 May 2021, 08:18

I'm getting a bit bored of Chisora complaining about being robbed.

He should try and get a fight with Wilder next, then he'll get poleaxed and hopefully he'll have nothing to complain about.
:TU: The crybaby deservs that.
By 'crybaby' you are referring to Chisora? Oh the irony! Somehow I don't think Delboy fits the criteria for a Wilder comeback opponent. He isn't a PBC fighter and he's very likely to hit him back.. :D
That's what he is. Clearly lost to Parker and even more clearly to Usyk, after what he was complaining like a girl. But, yes, he won't fight Wilder next because of the promotional issues.