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Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 18:50
by margaret thatcher
tbf, that might be the best ive seen anyone do vs andrade except for the martiroysian fight years ago

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 18:50
by THEBUTCH
Williams didn't have sufficient preparation in his previous fights to mount a winning challenge.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 18:54
by ThereByTheGrace
gregregegg wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:41
ThereByTheGrace wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:37
Allas wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:36 117-110 Andrade for me but good effort from Williams. Ref was poor.

Williams was shite too. A plodder. A wrestler. A grappler. Certainly not a boxer.
winning a few rounds and hurting an undefeated world champ who is notoriously hard to hit.. even though andrade was hanging on or out of range... sounds like he is probably a boxer. you want him to try box slick back foot stuff against andrade? that wouldent make him a boxer, that would make him an idiot.
He was outclassed. Never moved his head or his feet that makes him an idiot.

He used every dirty trick in the book to try and cover up for it. British title level is what he is

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 18:54
by maverick23
THEBUTCH wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:50 Williams didn't have sufficient preparation in his previous fights to mount a winning challenge.
Agreed. They knew which champion they were going after but didn’t face one decent southpaw or anyone tricky to prepare for it.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 18:56
by Counter-puncher
Allas wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:25
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:23
Allas wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:23 Halling and Paul Smith have been brilliant tonight. Wish they’d get them on Sky shows.
halling is usually awful
I don’t mind him but compared to Adam Smith... :lol:
I find myself pathetically grateful for any commentary that doesn’t involve Left Hook Smith

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 18:56
by Grilling Machine
Criticisms aside, that was a hard fight and a credit to them both. That's some serious mileage on their clocks for what, on paper, was a one-sided affair.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:00
by NoScoutingReports
Andrade a level above but he did get away with murder with regards to holding, referee wasn't interested in the slightest.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:04
by margaret thatcher
in the first half most of the holding was them falling into each other, as it got into the later rounds andrade started to lead by holding and initating most of it though, a point couldve come off i guess though ive seen a lot worse.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:06
by KiwiRider
Andrade couldn't miss with the left lead uppercut. It's not like a secret weapon, he throws it all the time.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:06
by margaret thatcher
ThereByTheGrace wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:54
gregregegg wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:41
ThereByTheGrace wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:37


Williams was shite too. A plodder. A wrestler. A grappler. Certainly not a boxer.
winning a few rounds and hurting an undefeated world champ who is notoriously hard to hit.. even though andrade was hanging on or out of range... sounds like he is probably a boxer. you want him to try box slick back foot stuff against andrade? that wouldent make him a boxer, that would make him an idiot.
He was outclassed. Never moved his head or his feet that makes him an idiot.

He used every dirty trick in the book to try and cover up for it. British title level is what he is
he has been butchering british title guys and gave andrade one of his toughest fights, tougher than a solid lower top 10-15 guy like sulecki did. i'd say he's defo above british title level for ability

i dont know what ppl expected him to do vs andrade. i actually think he did pretty well, won some rounds and hurt him, had him looking uncomfortable for 10 of the 12 rounds

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:09
by Counter-puncher
Fair play, Eddie was on fire tonight. He’s a hell of a performer in front of the camera, putting aside whether I agree with him or like him or not his delivery is absolutely flawless, phenomenal salesman.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:10
by emallini
Props to Williams for that effort.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:12
by Ruthless-RKO
Counter-puncher wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 19:09 Fair play, Eddie was on fire tonight. He’s a hell of a performer in front of the camera, putting aside whether I agree with him or like him or not his delivery is absolutely flawless, phenomenal salesman.
Gotta give it to him. You can tell he loves what he does and he does it well.

He does make great fights.

If Charlo won’t come to DAZN, he said Andrade will come to FOX. He’ll take the same money Derev took.

Balls in Charlo’s court.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:12
by gregregegg
ThereByTheGrace wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:54
gregregegg wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:41
ThereByTheGrace wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:37


Williams was shite too. A plodder. A wrestler. A grappler. Certainly not a boxer.
winning a few rounds and hurting an undefeated world champ who is notoriously hard to hit.. even though andrade was hanging on or out of range... sounds like he is probably a boxer. you want him to try box slick back foot stuff against andrade? that wouldent make him a boxer, that would make him an idiot.
He was outclassed. Never moved his head or his feet that makes him an idiot.

He used every dirty trick in the book to try and cover up for it. British title level is what he is
being outclassed in a tough fight with an undefeated world champ where you win rounds, hurt him, and realistically give him the toughest fight of his Carrier dosent make you a British levle plodder.

If you dont like that style and prefer a slick backfoot boxer thats fine, and sure he relies on his chin a bit, but its ignorant to pretend there arnt multiple styles to box effectively.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:12
by NoScoutingReports
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 19:04 in the first half most of the holding was them falling into each other, as it got into the later rounds andrade started to lead by holding and initating most of it though, a point couldve come off i guess though ive seen a lot worse.
I've seen worse too but as you said in the later rounds Andrade was getting off and then holding pretty regularly, referee didn't even warn him really.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:13
by Ruthless-RKO
This was great timing for DAZN. Giving the IK fans something to enjoy at prime time.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:15
by dookus
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 19:06
ThereByTheGrace wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:54
gregregegg wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:41

winning a few rounds and hurting an undefeated world champ who is notoriously hard to hit.. even though andrade was hanging on or out of range... sounds like he is probably a boxer. you want him to try box slick back foot stuff against andrade? that wouldent make him a boxer, that would make him an idiot.
He was outclassed. Never moved his head or his feet that makes him an idiot.

He used every dirty trick in the book to try and cover up for it. British title level is what he is
he has been butchering british title guys and gave andrade one of his toughest fights, tougher than a solid lower top 10-15 guy like sulecki did. i'd say he's defo above british title level for ability

i dont know what ppl expected him to do vs andrade. i actually think he did pretty well, won some rounds and hurt him, had him looking uncomfortable for 10 of the 12 rounds
Maybe he should regroup at European level and see if he can develop enough to make a better fist of it next time. Toughness and power wise he looks a decent match for anyone, but he's got to be much smarter in there to have any success at this level.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:15
by NoScoutingReports
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 19:13 This was great timing for DAZN. Giving the IK fans something to enjoy at prime time.
A nice touch, yeah. Having a US card wrapped up before 12am UK time was really odd but a welcome change.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:17
by Nondescript
I'm surprised noone has said it -

Williams- Eubank jnr ... absolute guaranteed cracker.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:17
by ThereByTheGrace
gregregegg wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 19:12
ThereByTheGrace wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:54
gregregegg wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:41

winning a few rounds and hurting an undefeated world champ who is notoriously hard to hit.. even though andrade was hanging on or out of range... sounds like he is probably a boxer. you want him to try box slick back foot stuff against andrade? that wouldent make him a boxer, that would make him an idiot.
He was outclassed. Never moved his head or his feet that makes him an idiot.

He used every dirty trick in the book to try and cover up for it. British title level is what he is
being outclassed in a tough fight with an undefeated world champ where you win rounds, hurt him, and realistically give him the toughest fight of his Carrier dosent make you a British levle plodder.

If you dont like that style and prefer a slick backfoot boxer thats fine, and sure he relies on his chin a bit, but its ignorant to pretend there arnt multiple styles to box effectively.
He’s not very good. There are styles yes but he’s very limited and miles away from being a world champion. More likely to be hurt badly with a style like that.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:18
by Boxerbeetle
I’m just glad Williams left it all in the ring tonight. I was pretty gutted with his performances against Smith, I felt he had enough in him to win both fights but didn’t really seem to have the self belief at the time. No question about his efforts today tho.

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:19
by MightyWarrior
skanksta wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:46 Ok, who's paying for Jake Paul and staying up for it...? :oops:
No but I’ll watch a delayed stream of the card tomorrow for Prograis.

Who is Paul fighting, is he some sort of celeb ?
He looks like he just woke up on the beach .

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 19:39
by Coco
It was Williams who fought like a man tonight

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 20:00
by margaret thatcher
eddie tweeted that hes gonna work with fedosov now, glad to see that :box:

Re: Round-by-Round: Demetrius Andrade vs. Liam Williams - 17 April 2021

Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 21:51
by Ruthless-RKO
MightyWarrior wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 19:19
skanksta wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:46 Ok, who's paying for Jake Paul and staying up for it...? :oops:
No but I’ll watch a delayed stream of the card tomorrow for Prograis.

Who is Paul fighting, is he some sort of celeb ?
He looks like he just woke up on the beach .
Haha! Ben Askren. He’s an MMA fighter.