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a force wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 03:45 I feel like he’s an accident waiting to happen. I think beating old men who aren’t punchers will give him a false sense of confidence.

Maybe he can suddenly tighten up against more dangerous fighters but I find it hard to believe he can go from been wide open taking big risks not worrying about what’s coming back to fighting very disciplined.

He’s exciting but I can’t see them stepping up. They’ll claim it’s a step up but it’ll be a big name past his best or at a weight too high.

Froch was talking sense suggesting Essuman. That’s a proper fight for me. I’d love to see it. You need to fight fighters with ambition who are young & fit & come through them if you’ve any chance at world level.

tony1234 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 05:12 I enjoyed the Billam Smith fight, the rest was pretty crap. As for Benn calling out Khan, what a joke, fighting old men who've hardly fought recently won't get him anywhere.
It will be interesting to see how the cost of living crisis will effect these shows and DAZN/PPV buys, plenty of empty seats at Manchester and loads on the BT show. Could be Fury has got in there at the right time with next week's show as people start to cut back on expenses then night outs will be first to go.

tony1234 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 05:12 I enjoyed the Billam Smith fight, the rest was pretty crap. As for Benn calling out Khan, what a joke, fighting old men who've hardly fought recently won't get him anywhere.
It will be interesting to see how the cost of living crisis will effect these shows and DAZN/PPV buys, plenty of empty seats at Manchester and loads on the BT show. Could be Fury has got in there at the right time with next week's show as people start to cut back on expenses then night outs will be first to go.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 05:52 I'm sure I'll get abuse for this....but....Tyson was always going to sell out, and his fans don't even know what national insurance is...

gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 06:51 I think he fights hooker next. Just the way ed said some things. Not bad, step up for sure. Yes a 140lber but a frame that could be a 175... So he should fill into 147 nicely. If I had to bet money that's where I'd throw it.

Dioufy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 07:47 Does anyone else think Benn looks a small welter? I’m not saying he can make 140lbs as he looks great on the scales always but van Heerden come in 1 1/2lb under the limit and looked bigger.
That might eventually be Benn’s undoing. Coming up against a huge welter who will rehydrate to a super middleweight.

Dioufy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 10:15 It’d be deflating if Conor Benn’s next fight is Mo Hooker.
That’s no different from van Heerden and Algieri.
Got to admire what Shakur Stevenson is doing.
I can’t help but think why more people aren’t pushing for these kind of fights.
Id personally put Conor in with Spence, Crawford, Ortiz, Ennis.
He might well lose but he might not.
When did boxing become so self-preservation city.

skanksta wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 13:23

Dioufy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 10:15 It’d be deflating if Conor Benn’s next fight is Mo Hooker.
That’s no different from van Heerden and Algieri.
Got to admire what Shakur Stevenson is doing.
I can’t help but think why more people aren’t pushing for these kind of fights.
Id personally put Conor in with Spence, Crawford, Ortiz, Ennis.
He might well lose but he might not.
When did boxing become so self-preservation city.

That's daft - you're talking as a fan not a promoter.

WTF would Benn/Hearn blow their beans getting destroyed by Ennis for peanuts.

Dioufy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 07:47 Does anyone else think Benn looks a small welter? I’m not saying he can make 140lbs as he looks great on the scales always but van Heerden come in 1 1/2lb under the limit and looked bigger.
That might eventually be Benn’s undoing. Coming up against a huge welter who will rehydrate to a super middleweight.

Dioufy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 14:04 van Heerden just said that Benn was on the same level as Boots and Spence.
Seems like a decent guy so maybe he’s just be overly nice but still an interesting statement.

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 07:45 I’d usually support a boxing channel like DAZN, but the hopeless uk cards and gushing in-house comm make it such a hard watch ( their advertorials in BN are embarrassing and other ads look like they’ve paid about 50 quid & make them look desperate ) so i cancelled last month. I watched the Benn fight online this morning and it’s just more of the same…And I saw them advertising various up coming fights around France Germany Italy, fighters I’ve never heard of, seems like they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I also get the the impression Benn’s chin won’t hold up too well when he steps up, has he been dropped before ?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 15:12

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 07:45 I’d usually support a boxing channel like DAZN, but the hopeless uk cards and gushing in-house comm make it such a hard watch ( their advertorials in BN are embarrassing and other ads look like they’ve paid about 50 quid & make them look desperate ) so i cancelled last month. I watched the Benn fight online this morning and it’s just more of the same…And I saw them advertising various up coming fights around France Germany Italy, fighters I’ve never heard of, seems like they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I also get the the impression Benn’s chin won’t hold up too well when he steps up, has he been dropped before ?

Yes, a little known frenchie called Paynard. Benn lost to him on all but the judges cards, then eventually rematched him and genuinely won- which was good. Paynard isn't very good at all, but in the first fight he was actually willing to try and win and wasn't nearly 40 years old.
Benn has since improved, credit for that. The concern is how he has been matched since then. 21 fights, no Area/British /Commonwealth/European fights. So we don't even have a clue how good he is, he might not even be the best in England. He gets matched against soft hitting former names or padded out "on paper" guys and realistically Benn's record is not what I would call padded, but it is very carefully curated

bigjack wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 15:56

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 15:12

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 07:45 I’d usually support a boxing channel like DAZN, but the hopeless uk cards and gushing in-house comm make it such a hard watch ( their advertorials in BN are embarrassing and other ads look like they’ve paid about 50 quid & make them look desperate ) so i cancelled last month. I watched the Benn fight online this morning and it’s just more of the same…And I saw them advertising various up coming fights around France Germany Italy, fighters I’ve never heard of, seems like they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I also get the the impression Benn’s chin won’t hold up too well when he steps up, has he been dropped before ?

Yes, a little known frenchie called Paynard. Benn lost to him on all but the judges cards, then eventually rematched him and genuinely won- which was good. Paynard isn't very good at all, but in the first fight he was actually willing to try and win and wasn't nearly 40 years old.
Benn has since improved, credit for that. The concern is how he has been matched since then. 21 fights, no Area/British /Commonwealth/European fights. So we don't even have a clue how good he is, he might not even be the best in England. He gets matched against soft hitting former names or padded out "on paper" guys and realistically Benn's record is not what I would call padded, but it is very carefully curated

Benns career is following a similar path to Khans with a host of once half decent opponents,who are either on the slide,inactive or old,or in the case with Van Heerden,all three