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Canelos lack of jab really hurt him in this fight.

Had it for Crawford, not by much though
TC ran a lot an didn't engage full on and went with the traditional box him from the outside with spurts technique
Won him the day
Canelo got reddened up but otherwise unscathed, he came forward and tried to make the fight of it, but Crawford already settled into the Mayweather defensive battle plan and opted for the path of least resistance.
Worthy winner no question about the decision

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 22:12 Canelos lack of jab really hurt him in this fight.

Exactly.

Jab beats speed, yet Canelo didn't do it.

He's so one dimensional now, loading up on single shots and thinking that's enough to beat a hall-of-fame fighter like Bud Crawford.

You can beat second rate fighters with those tactics, but not elite ones.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 22:12 Canelos lack of jab really hurt him in this fight.

And his apparent disinterest in backup plans.

squiggy wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 11:34

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 22:12 Canelos lack of jab really hurt him in this fight.

And his apparent disinterest in backup plans.

Lets explore that. What could he have done differently?

Obviously a jab and being physical when inside is how you beat a smaller, quicker fighter but canelo doesmt fight that way.

To me it exposed him like bivol and mayweather did. He fights one way and doesnt really adapt like all time greats do

By rd 8 it was clear canelo wasnt going to hurt Crawford and that the body shots werent going to slow him down. Canelo couldnt land clean - crawford is just superior at everything

Canelo Alvarez-Terence Crawford drew 41 million global viewers: Netflix

Last weekend’s show headlined by Saul “Canelo” Alvarez vs. Terence Crawford was expected to be huge for several reasons.

It was a fight between the undisputed super middleweight champion in Canelo against Crawford, who was coming up two weight classes for the challenge.

It was an event on the traditional big boxing weekend closest to Mexican Independence Day, headlined by Canelo, one of the biggest superstars in the sport.

And it was available for free to Netflix subscribers, coming at a fraction of the cost that would typically be asked for a pay-per-view.

Now the streaming service has announced just how big the audience was: 41 million global viewers.

Netflix said it was “the most-viewed men’s championship boxing match this century.”

That distinction comes because Netflix was also the home for last November’s match between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul, which was definitely not for a world title, but which had 108 million viewers worldwide.

Those 108 million viewers came from 60 million households. The title fight underneath Tyson-Paul featuring Katie Taylor-Amanda Serrano II also had a massive audience, averaging 74 million global viewers in 50 million households watching live.

Crawford v Canelo watched by more than 41 million

Terence Crawford's win against Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez to become the undisputed super-middleweight champion attracted an estimated total of 41.4 million viewers, says Netflix.

However, it was well below the estimated 125 million who watched Youtuber-turned boxer Jake Paul's bout against former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson in November 2024 on the streaming platform.

Because that was not for a title, Netflix described Crawford-Canelo as the "most-viewed men's championship boxing match this century".

Katie Taylor's win against Amanda Serrano in their second fight, which was on the undercard of the Tyson-Paul card, attracted an estimated 74 million live viewers globally and 47 million viewers in the US.

Crawford-Canelo attracted 36.6 million on the day of the fight, while the rest watched it within a day of the bout.

In terms of concurrent streams, Netflix said the fight had a peak of 24 million as opposed to the Tyson Paul peak of 65 million.

Crawford beat Canelo on points to claim the WBA (Super), WBC, WBO and IBF super-middleweight titles as he became the first male fighter in the modern era to hold undisputed titles in three weight divisions.

That fight being non-PPV on Netflix probably did more for the future of boxing than the last 5+ years of PPVs combined.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 11:39

squiggy wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 11:34

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 22:12 Canelos lack of jab really hurt him in this fight.

And his apparent disinterest in backup plans.

Lets explore that. What could he have done differently?

Obviously a jab and being physical when inside is how you beat a smaller, quicker fighter but canelo doesmt fight that way.

To me it exposed him like bivol and mayweather did. He fights one way and doesnt really adapt like all time greats do

It's always odd to me when the much bigger man comes in and decides "I'm gonna to box with this smaller guy and beat him with better timing and skill" how about you use the size and strength advantage you came into the ring with and apply more physical pressure genius?

The bigger, stronger man has made this tactical mistake repeatedly through recent Boxing history.

Holmes twice tried to outbox Spinks rather than Outpunch and Outstrength him. Fury did it twice against Usyk. De La Hoya did it against Mayweather.

Maybe someone should think about oh I don't know. Capitalizing on their size and strength advantage. Just a thought.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 12:16

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 11:39

squiggy wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 11:34

And his apparent disinterest in backup plans.

Lets explore that. What could he have done differently?

Obviously a jab and being physical when inside is how you beat a smaller, quicker fighter but canelo doesmt fight that way.

To me it exposed him like bivol and mayweather did. He fights one way and doesnt really adapt like all time greats do

It's always odd to me when the much bigger man comes in and decides "I'm gonna to box with this smaller guy and beat him with better timing and skill" how about you use the size and strength advantage you came into the ring with and apply more physical pressure genius?

The bigger, stronger man has made this tactical mistake repeatedly through recent Boxing history.

Holmes twice tried to outbox Spinks rather than Outpunch and Outstrength him. Fury did it twice against Usyk. De La Hoya did it against Mayweather.

Maybe someone should think about oh I don't know. Capitalizing on their size and strength advantage. Just a thought.

It's not that easy and it's exhausting.

Well trying to box him as if he's exactly your size damn sure don't seem to be working for nobody.

Chavez Jr. Swarmed the much smaller Andy Lee and it f*cking worked. One of the only ones I can think of where the bigger man swarmed the smaller guy and lost is Juan Diaz up against Juan Manuel Marquez, and that's more about levels.

- Juan Diaz is a tyny fast paced short armed pressure fighter who got on top of the slow starting Marquez early, almost knocking him out before JMM got on top of him their first fight. Listed generously by Boxrec as 5-6, I'd say more like 5-4 standing next to me. I was surprised at how small some championship fighters were in person back when I was more active, and how BIG some of those heavies were. Never got to meet the Kbros sadly, but I saw a couple of Wlad future opponents, nor Valuev whom I especially wanted to meet.

Didn't watch this fight to nowhere that nobody but Crawford and Turki asked for, but post fight both fighters look the same as prefight like nothing actually happened. I'd suggest mentally Canelo mailed it in thinking this was a walkover.

What he does next is likely to set up his swan song since he now splits most of his time flying his luxury jet between his estate south of San Diego and Guadalajara in between his yachting excursions between the two.

Will he rematch Crawford? Will Crawford ever get credit for his follow up career as the older but less distinguished fighter?

Dunno, but not much room in the remainder of their careers before they both disappear...c'est la vie...

I don't think we'll see a rematch.

Canelo doesn't need belts.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025, 10:43 I don't think we'll see a rematch.

Canelo doesn't need belts.

There's no way we'll see a rematch IMO - Canelo's attitude towards a Bivol rematch tells you all you need to know here.

And even if he did want it, do any of us want to see it? I think it's impossible to make the case for a different outcome.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025, 10:43 I don't think we'll see a rematch.

Canelo doesn't need belts.

I'll bet you he could move up, and beat Badou Jack to pick up a Cruiserweight belt and then retire having accomplished yet another noteworthy feat.

Hard to imagine he couldn't come in at 185 and beat Badou Jack just because he's a better fighter. Just like what recently happened to him. He doesn't need to be bigger to beat Badou Jack.

Finally got around to watching the fight. I had it 116-112 Crawford. Felt much like many of his other fights. Fairly close early, and he begins to pull further and further away as it goes along.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Sep 2025, 13:32 Finally got around to watching the fight. I had it 116-112 Crawford. Felt much like many of his other fights. Fairly close early, and he begins to pull further and further away as it goes along.

How did you have it round-by-round?

2128778 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2025, 15:13

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Sep 2025, 13:32 Finally got around to watching the fight. I had it 116-112 Crawford. Felt much like many of his other fights. Fairly close early, and he begins to pull further and further away as it goes along.

How did you have it round-by-round?

Round 1, 4, 5 and 8 to Canelo. The rest to Crawford.

1,4,8, and 10 were all close rounds. Round 5 was the only I thought Canelo won clear, the other rounds were close where I gave him only the slightest edge.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Sep 2025, 15:45

2128778 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2025, 15:13

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Sep 2025, 13:32 Finally got around to watching the fight. I had it 116-112 Crawford. Felt much like many of his other fights. Fairly close early, and he begins to pull further and further away as it goes along.

How did you have it round-by-round?

Round 1, 4, 5 and 8 to Canelo. The rest to Crawford.

1,4,8, and 10 were all close rounds. Round 5 was the only I thought Canelo won clear, the other rounds were close where I gave him only the slightest edge.

I had it exactly like judge Max DeLuca.

Canelo: 1, 2, 5, 8, 9.

Crawford: 3, 4, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12.

Rounds 4 and 9 were interesting in a sense that - Crawford started both rounds extremely well, winning the 1st minute of the round. But then kind of eased off and let Canelo steal the rest of the round with some nice single shots.

That said, I gave the 4th to Craw. 9th to Canelo.

I'll probably rewatch it in coming days.

But as of now, I didn't see this fight as a whitewash, like many did.

2128778 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2025, 16:20

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Sep 2025, 15:45

2128778 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2025, 15:13

How did you have it round-by-round?

Round 1, 4, 5 and 8 to Canelo. The rest to Crawford.

1,4,8, and 10 were all close rounds. Round 5 was the only I thought Canelo won clear, the other rounds were close where I gave him only the slightest edge.

I had it exactly like judge Max DeLuca.

Canelo: 1, 2, 5, 8, 9.

Crawford: 3, 4, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12.

Rounds 4 and 9 were interesting in a sense that - Crawford started both rounds extremely well, winning the 1st minute of the round. But then kind of eased off and let Canelo steal the rest of the round with some nice single shots.

That said, I gave the 4th to Craw. 9th to Canelo.

I'll probably rewatch it in coming days.

But as of now, I didn't see this fight as a whitewash, like many did.

No it wasn't a Whitewash, but it still felt like Crawford was the clear winner. 8 rounds to 4 or 7 rounds to 5 for him is proper scoring I think.