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Maria and me will be cruising in Friday around 1 pm. Rick 'ol pal. Make sure I have a big space for my paintings for the memorabilia show. Perhaps, also I can put a few out outside the banquet room. Thanks. Rog
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Rog . . . We'll make the space as we need it. I made it clear we are coming, it's no secret. You better believe we'll have space.dagosd2000 wrote:Maria and me will be cruising in Friday around 1 pm. Rick 'ol pal. Make sure I have a big space for my paintings for the memorabilia show. Perhaps, also I can put a few out outside the banquet room. Thanks. Rog
We'll also have my cameraman, Greg. Let's have some fun. I want to take a "anything goes" kind of approach. It isn't as if I haven't given this consideration.
I'll get over there tomorrow, may have to slip off the set for a couple hours. We'll get with Mando and stake out our territory the day before.
Maybe we can rope in Dan Hanley & Pop. By the way "Pop" will be recognized himself saturday, you'll see saturday, when everybody is seated and checking out the program.
I don't know when we will have the area to set-up? We'll find out tomorrow. The banquet room? Let's just do it, hell, I'm on the executive commitee, nobody will say a thing.
However, you'll need easels for the banquet room.
I'm a film industry guy, we have to scout the banquet room and without violating Fire Marshall regulations, choose locations for various paintings.
They may as well get used to your art, they are going to be seeing a lot of it, and buying some of it.
The only thing important this year is making a statement. A nice introduction.
By the way, Rog, just called Mando and we'll meet with him manana and secure what you require.
More to be revealed . . .
(And Rog, call me when you land.)
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Soupy Sales dies at 83; slapstick comic had hit TV show in 1960s
The comedian acquired a cult-like following among adults with a show ostensibly meant for children. His signature routine, which he elevated to an art form, was pie-throwing.
Soupy Sales is embraced backstage by Hanne Bork after his 1967 Broadway debut in "Come Live With Me." (Associated Press / October 22, 2009)
By Elaine Woo
October 23, 2009
Soupy Sales, a comic with a gift for slapstick who attained cult-like popularity in the 1960s with a pie-throwing routine that became his signature, has died. He was 83.
Sales had numerous ailments and died Thursday at Calvary Hospital in the Bronx, said Kathy O'Connell, a longtime friend.
As the star of "The Soupy Sales Show," he performed live on television for 13 years in Detroit, Los Angeles and New York before the program went into syndication in the United States and abroad.
Ostensibly for children, the show had broad appeal among adults who found Sales' puns, gags and pratfalls deliciously corny and camp. His cast consisted of goofy puppets with names like White Fang, Black Tooth and Pookie, and a host of off-camera characters, including the infamous naked girl.
The high point of every show came when a sidekick launched a pie into Sales' face. Sales once estimated that he was hit by more than 25,000 pies in his lifetime.
The gag became more than hilarious; it evolved into a hip badge of honor. Frank Sinatra was first in a long line of celebrities who clamored for the privilege to be cream-faced, including Tony Curtis, Mickey Rooney, Sammy Davis Jr., Dick Martin and Burt Lancaster.
"I've never done a pretentious show; it's always had a live feeling, the kind of thing that comes across when you don't know what's going to happen next," Sales told author Gary Grossman in the 1981 book "Saturday Morning TV." "I've never done anything simply because I thought I could get away with it. I've just wanted to do the funniest show."
The possibility of humor dogged Sales from the start. He was born Milton Supman on Jan. 28, 1926, in the North Carolina backwater of Franklinton. The Supmans were the only Jews in town. Sales' father ran a dry goods store that sold sheets to the Ku Klux Klan.
The family name was often mispronounced as "Soupman." To make matters worse, his parents, who had nicknamed his brothers "Hambone" and "Chickenbone," dubbed him "Soupbone." Eventually, Milton became just Soupy.
His father died when he was 5, prompting a move to Huntington, W.Va. Sales acted in school plays and in high school was voted most popular boy.
World War II did not dampen his showbiz ambitions. He fought in the Pacific theater in the Navy and participated in the invasion of Okinawa but managed to entertain crew mates with routines broadcast on the ship's PA system.
After his discharge, Sales returned to West Virginia and enrolled in Marshall College as a journalism major, earning a bachelor's degree in 1949. He went to work for a radio station in Huntington as a scriptwriter. At night he did stand-up in nightclubs. Soon he became a disc jockey.
In the early 1950s he moved to Ohio, where a Cleveland station manager gave him the professional name of Soupy Hines. That was nixed in Detroit, where his new station manager thought Hines would be confused with an advertiser, the Heinz soup line. Thus was Soupy Sales born.
In 1953, Sales launched a daily live children's show on Detroit's WXYZ-TV, called "Soupy Sales Comics." The show caught on, causing the station to give him a nighttime slot for "Soupy's On." Sales created characters such as Wyatt Burp, a belch-prone sheriff, and Calypso King Harry Bella, a crazy-eyed South American with a mop top.
In 1955, the show was picked up by ABC as a summer replacement for "Kukla, Fran and Ollie" and renamed "The Soupy Sales Show." Its star soon became Detroit's top-rated daytime television personality.
Sales was joined by White Fang, "the meanest dog in the United States," and Black Tooth, "the nicest dog in the United States," of whom all that viewers saw were giant paws. Other characters included his irrepressible girlfriend, Peaches, the vivacious Marilyn Monwolf, and a bloodthirsty neighbor, the Count, who touted an album titled "Love in Vein."
Every show featured a segment called Words of Wisdom, an opportunity to offer silly sayings such as "Be true to your teeth and they won't be false to you."
The highlight of each show, of course, was the pie-throwing, which Sales elevated to an art.
Sales took his first pie in the face in 1950 when he played an Indian in a spoof of the James Stewart movie "Broken Arrow." That pie was real. Later, he would switch to shaving-cream pies. But he swore that the secret of a good pie was the crust: If it stuck to the face, it was, in Sales' opinion, no good.
"A pie has to hit you and explode into a thousand pieces," the expert explained, "so you see the person's face and see it take away his dignity."
By 1961, the face that launched several thousand pies in Detroit began to dominate local TV in Los Angeles. Critics were unkind, calling the show "a mishmash of mediocrity" that was meant for "kids with low IQs." But viewers lapped it up, making it the No. 1 local show by 1962. A survey at the time revealed that more than a third of Sales' fans consisted of adults. Some of them were hosting pie-lobbing parties in their basements.
One day, Sinatra called. "Hey, Soupy, it's Frank," he said. "I want to come on your show on one condition: I get hit with a pie." Sales was happy to fulfill the legendary crooner's wish.
The appearance by Sinatra stirred a stampede of stars hungry for the same humiliation. One night featured a triple-header: Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr. and Trini Lopez were all pied together.
In his evening show, Sales also featured jazz musicians including Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespie and Duke Ellington. The Ken Burns jazz documentary included a clip from Sales' show.
Once, the crew played a joke on him by posing a naked woman in a stage door. When Sales opened the door, he gasped and feared his career was over, but the scene was never telecast.
For notoriety, nothing beat the show that aired New Year's Day 1965, when Sales was producing the program in New York. Told he had a minute to fill, the comic told the children watching on WNEW-TV to find their parents' wallets and "get all the green pieces of paper with the pictures of guys in beards" and mail them to him. In return, he said, he would send them "a postcard from Puerto Rico."
Sales had used the same joke in Detroit and Los Angeles. But this time, the prank elicited some $80,000 "in Monopoly money," as well as a complaint from a viewer filed with the FCC. Sales' show was suspended, prompting fans to swamp the station's switchboard with protest calls, mostly from high school and college students who demanded that their favorite television fare resume. Within a week, it did.
On a website devoted to the Sales show, a fan recalled that the first program after the New Year's episode opened with stock footage of dancing girls kicking up their heels and crowds cheering; the musical accompaniment was "Happy Days Are Here Again." "It was obvious to all of us that our beloved Soupy was unrepentant," the fan wrote, "and we repressed youths were behind him. I must dispute the thesis . . . that Froggy from 'Andy's Gang' was the cause of '60s rebelliousness. It was Soupy who inspired my generation to anarchy."
Sales called the episode "the most brilliant minute of ad-lib in television history because it proved how powerful the medium is."
Later that year he invented a dance called "The Mouse," a loony version of the Twist in which Sales bared his upper teeth, raised his hands to his ears and wiggled his fingers while chewing in time to the music. He performed it several times on "The Ed Sullivan Show," where he met dancer Trudy Carson. They were married in 1980.
When animation took over children's programming in the 1960s, personalities such as Shari Lewis and Sales began to lose their appeal. In 1966 his show was not renewed in New York and went into syndication. A new version was produced and syndicated in 1978-79.
During the next few decades, Sales starred in a short-lived Broadway comedy and became a regular panelist on the long-running TV game show "What's My Line?" He also was a featured performer in the musical variety show "Sha Na Na" from 1978 to 1981.
In the mid-1980s, he emceed a radio show on WNBC in New York, sandwiched between Don Imus and Howard Stern. He acted in several movies, notably in the role of Moses in the 1993 cult comedy " . . . And God Spoke."
He once acknowledged that his trademark pie routine hurt his career: "Producers say, 'Hey, all he does is throw pies.' It kept me off a lot of shows."
His authority in pie-tossing even landed him in court -- as an expert witness. In 1974 he was called to testify in the court-martial of a sailor accused of pitching a pie into an officer's face. Noted defense attorney William Smith enlisted Sales to tell how, after launching more than 19,000 creamy missiles, he had never been prosecuted for assault with a pie. Pie-hurling, Sales told the court, was "a harmless joke" designed to "relieve tensions and frustrations." He offered to perform at the Port Hueneme naval base Christmas show if the charges were dropped but was turned down. The sailor was found guilty.
Sales kept up club appearances through the 1990s, performing before audiences of baby boomers.
"A lot of people grew up watching me," he told The Times several years ago. "I'll probably be remembered for the pies, and that's all right. That's fine and dandy. I'm flattered."
He is survived by his wife of 29 years, Trudy Carson Sales; sons Tony and Hunt from a previous marriage; a brother; and four grandchildren.
[email protected]
The comedian acquired a cult-like following among adults with a show ostensibly meant for children. His signature routine, which he elevated to an art form, was pie-throwing.
Soupy Sales is embraced backstage by Hanne Bork after his 1967 Broadway debut in "Come Live With Me." (Associated Press / October 22, 2009)
By Elaine Woo
October 23, 2009
Soupy Sales, a comic with a gift for slapstick who attained cult-like popularity in the 1960s with a pie-throwing routine that became his signature, has died. He was 83.
Sales had numerous ailments and died Thursday at Calvary Hospital in the Bronx, said Kathy O'Connell, a longtime friend.
As the star of "The Soupy Sales Show," he performed live on television for 13 years in Detroit, Los Angeles and New York before the program went into syndication in the United States and abroad.
Ostensibly for children, the show had broad appeal among adults who found Sales' puns, gags and pratfalls deliciously corny and camp. His cast consisted of goofy puppets with names like White Fang, Black Tooth and Pookie, and a host of off-camera characters, including the infamous naked girl.
The high point of every show came when a sidekick launched a pie into Sales' face. Sales once estimated that he was hit by more than 25,000 pies in his lifetime.
The gag became more than hilarious; it evolved into a hip badge of honor. Frank Sinatra was first in a long line of celebrities who clamored for the privilege to be cream-faced, including Tony Curtis, Mickey Rooney, Sammy Davis Jr., Dick Martin and Burt Lancaster.
"I've never done a pretentious show; it's always had a live feeling, the kind of thing that comes across when you don't know what's going to happen next," Sales told author Gary Grossman in the 1981 book "Saturday Morning TV." "I've never done anything simply because I thought I could get away with it. I've just wanted to do the funniest show."
The possibility of humor dogged Sales from the start. He was born Milton Supman on Jan. 28, 1926, in the North Carolina backwater of Franklinton. The Supmans were the only Jews in town. Sales' father ran a dry goods store that sold sheets to the Ku Klux Klan.
The family name was often mispronounced as "Soupman." To make matters worse, his parents, who had nicknamed his brothers "Hambone" and "Chickenbone," dubbed him "Soupbone." Eventually, Milton became just Soupy.
His father died when he was 5, prompting a move to Huntington, W.Va. Sales acted in school plays and in high school was voted most popular boy.
World War II did not dampen his showbiz ambitions. He fought in the Pacific theater in the Navy and participated in the invasion of Okinawa but managed to entertain crew mates with routines broadcast on the ship's PA system.
After his discharge, Sales returned to West Virginia and enrolled in Marshall College as a journalism major, earning a bachelor's degree in 1949. He went to work for a radio station in Huntington as a scriptwriter. At night he did stand-up in nightclubs. Soon he became a disc jockey.
In the early 1950s he moved to Ohio, where a Cleveland station manager gave him the professional name of Soupy Hines. That was nixed in Detroit, where his new station manager thought Hines would be confused with an advertiser, the Heinz soup line. Thus was Soupy Sales born.
In 1953, Sales launched a daily live children's show on Detroit's WXYZ-TV, called "Soupy Sales Comics." The show caught on, causing the station to give him a nighttime slot for "Soupy's On." Sales created characters such as Wyatt Burp, a belch-prone sheriff, and Calypso King Harry Bella, a crazy-eyed South American with a mop top.
In 1955, the show was picked up by ABC as a summer replacement for "Kukla, Fran and Ollie" and renamed "The Soupy Sales Show." Its star soon became Detroit's top-rated daytime television personality.
Sales was joined by White Fang, "the meanest dog in the United States," and Black Tooth, "the nicest dog in the United States," of whom all that viewers saw were giant paws. Other characters included his irrepressible girlfriend, Peaches, the vivacious Marilyn Monwolf, and a bloodthirsty neighbor, the Count, who touted an album titled "Love in Vein."
Every show featured a segment called Words of Wisdom, an opportunity to offer silly sayings such as "Be true to your teeth and they won't be false to you."
The highlight of each show, of course, was the pie-throwing, which Sales elevated to an art.
Sales took his first pie in the face in 1950 when he played an Indian in a spoof of the James Stewart movie "Broken Arrow." That pie was real. Later, he would switch to shaving-cream pies. But he swore that the secret of a good pie was the crust: If it stuck to the face, it was, in Sales' opinion, no good.
"A pie has to hit you and explode into a thousand pieces," the expert explained, "so you see the person's face and see it take away his dignity."
By 1961, the face that launched several thousand pies in Detroit began to dominate local TV in Los Angeles. Critics were unkind, calling the show "a mishmash of mediocrity" that was meant for "kids with low IQs." But viewers lapped it up, making it the No. 1 local show by 1962. A survey at the time revealed that more than a third of Sales' fans consisted of adults. Some of them were hosting pie-lobbing parties in their basements.
One day, Sinatra called. "Hey, Soupy, it's Frank," he said. "I want to come on your show on one condition: I get hit with a pie." Sales was happy to fulfill the legendary crooner's wish.
The appearance by Sinatra stirred a stampede of stars hungry for the same humiliation. One night featured a triple-header: Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr. and Trini Lopez were all pied together.
In his evening show, Sales also featured jazz musicians including Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespie and Duke Ellington. The Ken Burns jazz documentary included a clip from Sales' show.
Once, the crew played a joke on him by posing a naked woman in a stage door. When Sales opened the door, he gasped and feared his career was over, but the scene was never telecast.
For notoriety, nothing beat the show that aired New Year's Day 1965, when Sales was producing the program in New York. Told he had a minute to fill, the comic told the children watching on WNEW-TV to find their parents' wallets and "get all the green pieces of paper with the pictures of guys in beards" and mail them to him. In return, he said, he would send them "a postcard from Puerto Rico."
Sales had used the same joke in Detroit and Los Angeles. But this time, the prank elicited some $80,000 "in Monopoly money," as well as a complaint from a viewer filed with the FCC. Sales' show was suspended, prompting fans to swamp the station's switchboard with protest calls, mostly from high school and college students who demanded that their favorite television fare resume. Within a week, it did.
On a website devoted to the Sales show, a fan recalled that the first program after the New Year's episode opened with stock footage of dancing girls kicking up their heels and crowds cheering; the musical accompaniment was "Happy Days Are Here Again." "It was obvious to all of us that our beloved Soupy was unrepentant," the fan wrote, "and we repressed youths were behind him. I must dispute the thesis . . . that Froggy from 'Andy's Gang' was the cause of '60s rebelliousness. It was Soupy who inspired my generation to anarchy."
Sales called the episode "the most brilliant minute of ad-lib in television history because it proved how powerful the medium is."
Later that year he invented a dance called "The Mouse," a loony version of the Twist in which Sales bared his upper teeth, raised his hands to his ears and wiggled his fingers while chewing in time to the music. He performed it several times on "The Ed Sullivan Show," where he met dancer Trudy Carson. They were married in 1980.
When animation took over children's programming in the 1960s, personalities such as Shari Lewis and Sales began to lose their appeal. In 1966 his show was not renewed in New York and went into syndication. A new version was produced and syndicated in 1978-79.
During the next few decades, Sales starred in a short-lived Broadway comedy and became a regular panelist on the long-running TV game show "What's My Line?" He also was a featured performer in the musical variety show "Sha Na Na" from 1978 to 1981.
In the mid-1980s, he emceed a radio show on WNBC in New York, sandwiched between Don Imus and Howard Stern. He acted in several movies, notably in the role of Moses in the 1993 cult comedy " . . . And God Spoke."
He once acknowledged that his trademark pie routine hurt his career: "Producers say, 'Hey, all he does is throw pies.' It kept me off a lot of shows."
His authority in pie-tossing even landed him in court -- as an expert witness. In 1974 he was called to testify in the court-martial of a sailor accused of pitching a pie into an officer's face. Noted defense attorney William Smith enlisted Sales to tell how, after launching more than 19,000 creamy missiles, he had never been prosecuted for assault with a pie. Pie-hurling, Sales told the court, was "a harmless joke" designed to "relieve tensions and frustrations." He offered to perform at the Port Hueneme naval base Christmas show if the charges were dropped but was turned down. The sailor was found guilty.
Sales kept up club appearances through the 1990s, performing before audiences of baby boomers.
"A lot of people grew up watching me," he told The Times several years ago. "I'll probably be remembered for the pies, and that's all right. That's fine and dandy. I'm flattered."
He is survived by his wife of 29 years, Trudy Carson Sales; sons Tony and Hunt from a previous marriage; a brother; and four grandchildren.
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Frank
When I turned to my Web Page and saw that Soupy Sales had died ,I had a feeling that you were going to post that. His gags were on the edge. His slapstick was hilarious. White Fang. Black Tooth. What celebrity was going to get hit with a pie ?
Today,most comedians rely on profanity for a laugh. Very seldom does their profanity merit the humor,but people laugh anyway. Also, a joke at someone else's expense is par. It's often not a joke,but a personal attack that's inappropriate. For exmple:makng fun of someone's family.
Soupy Sales humor was on the edge,but it was always above the belt line.
When I turned to my Web Page and saw that Soupy Sales had died ,I had a feeling that you were going to post that. His gags were on the edge. His slapstick was hilarious. White Fang. Black Tooth. What celebrity was going to get hit with a pie ?
Today,most comedians rely on profanity for a laugh. Very seldom does their profanity merit the humor,but people laugh anyway. Also, a joke at someone else's expense is par. It's often not a joke,but a personal attack that's inappropriate. For exmple:makng fun of someone's family.
Soupy Sales humor was on the edge,but it was always above the belt line.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck3Eientnw0
Suite from Three Cornered Hat
Manuel De Falla
A LITTLE CORNER OF THE WORLD
This is Andalucia.The south of Spain. The music that reminds me of the bodegas.The local tapas dishes. The narrow stone streets. Every balcony with a garden of flowers draping down. The old Moorish and Spanish sections. The Andalucians don't want to change. Tradition is life. North of Andalucia the Spaniards are crazy. They want to get closer to the rest of Europe. They want to copy. They live too fast. Andalucia is enough is to the Andalucians. Andalucia is the center of Flamenco. The gypsy quarters where it is danced in the courtyards until morning. You see the day doesn't start for them until night. Then they dance till the sun rises.
Suite from Three Cornered Hat
Manuel De Falla
A LITTLE CORNER OF THE WORLD
This is Andalucia.The south of Spain. The music that reminds me of the bodegas.The local tapas dishes. The narrow stone streets. Every balcony with a garden of flowers draping down. The old Moorish and Spanish sections. The Andalucians don't want to change. Tradition is life. North of Andalucia the Spaniards are crazy. They want to get closer to the rest of Europe. They want to copy. They live too fast. Andalucia is enough is to the Andalucians. Andalucia is the center of Flamenco. The gypsy quarters where it is danced in the courtyards until morning. You see the day doesn't start for them until night. Then they dance till the sun rises.
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Hey, guys, Pops and I have run into Yaqui Lopez, Emile Griffith, Orlando Canizales and Amilcar Brusa this morn. They're all starting to roll in which is pretty cool in the hotel lobby, A real meeting spot. Rog, you're likely in transit as is Brian, see you guys soon. Frankie, looking forward to meeting you. Already spoke to Rick this morning, so we're on our way. Talk soon.
Scartissue
Scartissue
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Bad news.
Im on the way out the door right now to the doctor.
Feeling like sh.t it looks like Im not gonna make it gents.
My kids school is innundated with this H1N1. Over thirty kids out sick.
My daughter is ill also. Its no joke, Im on my back. Rick, my plane is scheduled for late tonight.
If I cant make it, can someone take my place? I sent a check for the ticket to you a week or so ago.
I used the envelope enclosed.
Maybe someone can step in for me if its paid for?
Brian
Im on the way out the door right now to the doctor.
Feeling like sh.t it looks like Im not gonna make it gents.
My kids school is innundated with this H1N1. Over thirty kids out sick.
My daughter is ill also. Its no joke, Im on my back. Rick, my plane is scheduled for late tonight.
If I cant make it, can someone take my place? I sent a check for the ticket to you a week or so ago.
I used the envelope enclosed.
Maybe someone can step in for me if its paid for?
Brian
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Brian, totally bummed out about this. I know the H1N1 is rampant in Chicago. You will be missed. Hope you come around before the flight takes off. I've met up with Rog and Maria already. Rog has some beautiful paintings. I've met up with Rafael Herrera, Bonecrusher Smith, Israel Vasquez and a bevy of others. A very nice couple from England has been a real joy. Real boxing fans. Talk at you guys soon. Brian, hope you feel better.
Scartissue
Scartissue
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Brian, I'm sorry to hear that you won't be here this weekend. Your first priority is your kids and your health. Take care of both. There will be other events and we will get together again.Expug wrote:Bad news.
Im on the way out the door right now to the doctor.
Feeling like sh.t it looks like Im not gonna make it gents.
My kids school is innundated with this H1N1. Over thirty kids out sick.
My daughter is ill also. Its no joke, Im on my back. Rick, my plane is scheduled for late tonight.
If I cant make it, can someone take my place? I sent a check for the ticket to you a week or so ago.
I used the envelope enclosed.
Maybe someone can step in for me if its paid for?
Brian
Randy
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Dan, Sounds like things are off to a good start.I'm bummed though that Brian won't be there with us. Keep an eye out for my pal Ed Hernandez. He should be there by now. I'm looking forward to see you and "Pops" again. I'll be there between 12:00 and !:00 tomorrow.scartissue wrote:Hey, guys, Pops and I have run into Yaqui Lopez, Emile Griffith, Orlando Canizales and Amilcar Brusa this morn. They're all starting to roll in which is pretty cool in the hotel lobby, A real meeting spot. Rog, you're likely in transit as is Brian, see you guys soon. Frankie, looking forward to meeting you. Already spoke to Rick this morning, so we're on our way. Talk soon.
Scartissue
Randy
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Expug wrote:Bad news.
Im on the way out the door right now to the doctor.
Feeling like sh.t it looks like Im not gonna make it gents.
My kids school is innundated with this H1N1. Over thirty kids out sick.
My daughter is ill also. Its no joke, Im on my back. Rick, my plane is scheduled for late tonight.
If I cant make it, can someone take my place? I sent a check for the ticket to you a week or so ago.
I used the envelope enclosed.
Maybe someone can step in for me if its paid for?
Brian
Brian . . . Feel better. Don't worry about the seat.
We'll miss you!
-Rick
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A Good Start . . .
Tonight's President's dinner went great. Rog gave Lucia Rijker her portrait. She was overwhelmed.
Maria and Monica were there. Dan Hanley & Pops, Tony Triem. We had some beers, then pulled the plug.
Tomorrow is another day. Rog's art will be on display. Then in the evening we'll have some fun.
My bet is Lucia Rijker steals the show.
-Rick Farris
Tonight's President's dinner went great. Rog gave Lucia Rijker her portrait. She was overwhelmed.
Maria and Monica were there. Dan Hanley & Pops, Tony Triem. We had some beers, then pulled the plug.
Tomorrow is another day. Rog's art will be on display. Then in the evening we'll have some fun.
My bet is Lucia Rijker steals the show.
-Rick Farris
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Randy, met up with Ed Hernandez this morning. Almost didn't recogise him without the cap. Rick was correct. President's dinner went well, but of course the company was the best. Met up again at champion's pub. Of course, Gil was there talking about the 1971 "robbery" again. The funniest thing was a dude I saw sauntering through the lobby. I said to Roger, "hey Rog, it's Uncle John!" I'm telling you we were staring in awe. If it isn't him then he has a double. Memorabilia show is in an hour, talk to you guys soon.
Scartissue
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Speaking of Gil King, he kinda looked like Uncle John's brother. Must be an Irish thing?scartissue wrote:Randy, met up with Ed Hernandez this morning. Almost didn't recogise him without the cap. Rick was correct. President's dinner went well, but of course the company was the best. Met up again at champion's pub. Of course, Gil was there talking about the 1971 "robbery" again. The funniest thing was a dude I saw sauntering through the lobby. I said to Roger, "hey Rog, it's Uncle John!" I'm telling you we were staring in awe. If it isn't him then he has a double. Memorabilia show is in an hour, talk to you guys soon.
Scartissue
Tonight is going to be fun. We'll have to take a shot of Irish Whiskey afterwards in honor of our pal Brian.
Pug, we really miss buddy!
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Thanks Rick.
Im bummed out stuck here in Chicago.
I wish I was there with you guys I really do.
Feeling a little better but Ive got the flu.
Its been five days and Im hoping to turn the corner soon.
Please put some pictures up asap.
Give my regards to Uncle John and my cousin Gil.
And have a shot of Jameson for me.
Brian
Im bummed out stuck here in Chicago.
I wish I was there with you guys I really do.
Feeling a little better but Ive got the flu.
Its been five days and Im hoping to turn the corner soon.
Please put some pictures up asap.
Give my regards to Uncle John and my cousin Gil.
And have a shot of Jameson for me.
Brian
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Sorry I haven't been posting, chaps, but I got banned from the British forum and it was a case of "f uck 'em". I now do a bit of posting on Eastside. Take care, good people.
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bennie wrote:Sorry I haven't been posting, chaps, but I got banned from the British forum and it was a case of "f uck 'em". I now do a bit of posting on Eastside. Take care, good people.
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Frank, I lightened it up a bit for you. I use http://Picnik.com for my photos. It doesn't fix everything but it does help with the light.
Again, congratulations Frank!
Randy
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Hey Brian . . . I didn't see Uncle John last night, however, I did see cousin Gil.Expug wrote:Thanks Rick.
Im bummed out stuck here in Chicago.
I wish I was there with you guys I really do.
Feeling a little better but Ive got the flu.
Its been five days and Im hoping to turn the corner soon.
Please put some pictures up asap.
Give my regards to Uncle John and my cousin Gil.
And have a shot of Jameson for me.
Brian
He reminded us that he was robbed in the Mando Muniz fight, and I saw him doing a little shadow boxing before the banquet.
In other words, I was kinda glad that nothing had changed in that regard. These guys are fun, just as they are.
This years event actually got off in fairly decent time and moved along nicely.
Lucia Rijker stole the show. Her video is controversial (which is good), well done and compelling.
She spoke very well, people listened, a crowd that talked thru most the speakers.
Lucia tours on speaking engagements much of the year, and has something to say of importance.
She was entertaining, the rest didn't even have fight footage to project due to a WBHOF misunderstanding.
After she stepped down, the interest remained with her.
I will submit these names for the 2010 ballot in the "Boxer" catagory: Mike Tyson, Julio Cesar Chavez, Jose Legra & Bennie Briscoe.
Postuhumous: Bernard Docusen, Tiger Jack Fox, +1 (undecided)
Trainer/Manager: Johnny Forbes, Joe Goossen (with three world champs from first pro fight-to-world titles).
Also will be a "Pioneer" designation that will allow the historian to induct forgotten greats on his own discretion.
The rest of the Selection Committee will add other names, as well, but these are my primary choices.
We will drop several who have been on the ballot for three years with little vote activity.
-Rick Farris
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Thanks for the update Rick.
Lucia Rijker is very intriguing. There is a real charisma to her from what I have seen.
Im sure she was a BIG hit at the banquet. She could really fight too.
Congrats to Frank also.
Gil King was in good form eh?
I looked up his record as I didnt know much about him.
Rog mentioned something about Gil claiming he was robbed in 71. Rick you also mentioned he says he was robbed vs Mando.
So...I was thinking maybe it was a close dec. or something. The record says the referee shut it down after round five.
No close dec. Its funny how in boxing, perhaps more then any endeavor in the world, revisionist history finds a home.
God Bless Gil though.The guy seems happy and thats cool.
Lucia Rijker is very intriguing. There is a real charisma to her from what I have seen.
Im sure she was a BIG hit at the banquet. She could really fight too.
Congrats to Frank also.
Gil King was in good form eh?
I looked up his record as I didnt know much about him.
Rog mentioned something about Gil claiming he was robbed in 71. Rick you also mentioned he says he was robbed vs Mando.
So...I was thinking maybe it was a close dec. or something. The record says the referee shut it down after round five.
No close dec. Its funny how in boxing, perhaps more then any endeavor in the world, revisionist history finds a home.
God Bless Gil though.The guy seems happy and thats cool.
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Expug wrote:Thanks for the update Rick.
Lucia Rijker is very intriguing. There is a real charisma to her from what I have seen.
Im sure she was a BIG hit at the banquet. She could really fight too.
Congrats to Frank also.
Gil King was in good form eh?
I looked up his record as I didnt know much about him.
Rog mentioned something about Gil claiming he was robbed in 71. Rick you also mentioned he says he was robbed vs Mando.
So...I was thinking maybe it was a close dec. or something. The record says the referee shut it down after round five.
No close dec. Its funny how in boxing, perhaps more then any endeavor in the world, revisionist history finds a home.
God Bless Gil though.The guy seems happy and thats cool.
Yeah, Brian, Armando pretty much beat him up. He was in way over his head that night, any night with Muniz.
But he's lucky to be with us. After he quit boxing, he was shot in the face, and so I credit him for still standing.
I remember when he and I were stablemates briefly. At the time, Suey Welch got him a room at the Elks Club. where George Parnassus had his office.
He tried to encourage me to take a room there too. It was like this old persons hotel, a massive monolithic building across from MacArthur Park.
I told Gil I was comfortable in my apartment and that the Elks Building had too many cock roaches for me. He just wanted a partner in crime.
We had a silent manager (no contract) and Suey Welch was just a front. The silent mgr. bought Gil & I both new cars. Gil got a '70 Plymouth Super Bee, and I was given a '70 Mach I Mustang. Gil's trainer, Cannonball Green, was given an orange Dodge Duster. The silent partner was an auto wholesaler so we all benefitted from that.
Man, that was in 1971.
-Rick Farris
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Yes, thats better, thanks Randy....Randyman wrote:
Frank, I lightened it up a bit for you. I use http://Picnik.com for my photos. It doesn't fix everything but it does help with the light.
Again, congratulations Frank!
Randy