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Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:36
by The Insider
Riddick Blowe wrote:The Insider wrote:I've already had a tiny bit on Groves @ 4/1 and will have a fun bet on the Groves stoppage @10/1 just to make watching it more interesting. Can't see any value in betting anything on Froch as the odds are so short. As mentioned in other threads, if your life depended on it Froch, with the value, Groves.
The 10/11 that was available on Froch stoppage with Ladbrokes was great value IMO.
It has moved to 8/11 now across the board, but I would probably price it at 4/7.
8/11 still isn't terrible but I just don't fancy it. Id much rather chance 50 quid of my cash to make 200 on groves @ 4s than risk all that money on Froch. As said Froch is favorite for a reason and I agree but it's closer than the bookies have it for me. I took my odds with skybet who have now shortened to 3/1 on groves so there is definitely some shifts in the market. I won't be chancing much on it but have no problem backing odds on favorites to the hilt as I did with Coyle the other week where I admittedly bet a bit more than I should.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:46
by Bard of Boxrec
The Insider wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:The Insider wrote:I've already had a tiny bit on Groves @ 4/1 and will have a fun bet on the Groves stoppage @10/1 just to make watching it more interesting. Can't see any value in betting anything on Froch as the odds are so short. As mentioned in other threads, if your life depended on it Froch, with the value, Groves.
The 10/11 that was available on Froch stoppage with Ladbrokes was great value IMO.
It has moved to 8/11 now across the board, but I would probably price it at 4/7.
8/11 still isn't terrible but I just don't fancy it. Id much rather chance 50 quid of my cash to make 200 on groves @ 4s than risk all that money on Froch. As said Froch is favorite for a reason and I agree but it's closer than the bookies have it for me. I took my odds with skybet who have now shortened to 3/1 on groves so there is definitely some shifts in the market. I won't be chancing much on it but have no problem backing odds on favorites to the hilt as I did with Coyle the other week where I admittedly bet a bit more than I should.
Fair do's, I've had it in accumulators though so the payout will be big!

Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:50
by The Insider
Riddick Blowe wrote:
Fair do's, I've had it in accumulators though so the payout will be big!

Fingers crossed for you

Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 12:13
by Bard of Boxrec
The Insider wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:
Fair do's, I've had it in accumulators though so the payout will be big!

Fingers crossed for you

Cheers, Khan/Alexander and the Haye cancellation have robbed me of a five-figure payout tho :(
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 12:30
by geoffburt07
Froch and PACman to win by stoppage is paying 7/4. Not a huge price but itl do me.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 12:34
by Bard of Boxrec
geoffburt07 wrote:Froch and PACman to win by stoppage is paying 7/4. Not a huge price but itl do me.
9/5 with laddies. I'm not sure about the Pac fight though, I can't decide if Rios will see it out...
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 16:55
by Finn
Im just deciding if i should go for:
Froch rounds 1-6
Quigg rounds 1-12 any method
Hernandez to win
Pac rounds 8-12 or on pts
£10 at 11.15/1 on the accumulator 4 fold
Then 4 x £5 on the treble.
Total returns £260.77
Or i could go for the lucky 15 at 15 x £2 (£30) max returns £142.40
ANY THOUGHTS?????????? before i place it.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 17:12
by cutsman
Anyone else see value in Dib at 3's against someone he lost to only by sd?
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 17:14
by palooka
cutsman wrote:Anyone else see value in Dib at 3's against someone he lost to only by sd?
You are obviously a very astute and experienced gambler, would you please explain that for a mere mortal (me), thanks

Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 17:21
by cutsman
palooka wrote:cutsman wrote:Anyone else see value in Dib at 3's against someone he lost to only by sd?
You are obviously a very astute and experienced gambler, would you please explain that for a mere mortal (me), thanks

Certainly sir.
Dib v Gradovich happened back in march. Dib lost by split decision. 112-114. 114-112, 112-114. They have both had 1 fight since and both won by decision.
Billy Dib is 3-1 odds to win in rematch. Which I think is generous.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 17:24
by palooka
cutsman wrote:palooka wrote:cutsman wrote:Anyone else see value in Dib at 3's against someone he lost to only by sd?
You are obviously a very astute and experienced gambler, would you please explain that for a mere mortal (me), thanks

Certainly sir.
Dib v Gradovich happened back in march. Dib lost by split decision. 112-114. 114-112, 112-114. They have both had 1 fight since and both won by decision.
Billy Dib is 3-1 odds to win in rematch. Which I think is generous.
Thank you, I understand now

Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 17:25
by cutsman
Also To put it in perspective. Say for instance that froch and groves had fought back in March and Groves lost by split decision. Do you think he would be still be priced at 3/1 for the rematch?
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 17:27
by ShadrachSimmo
cutsman wrote:palooka wrote:cutsman wrote:Anyone else see value in Dib at 3's against someone he lost to only by sd?
You are obviously a very astute and experienced gambler, would you please explain that for a mere mortal (me), thanks

Certainly sir.
Dib v Gradovich happened back in march. Dib lost by split decision. 112-114. 114-112, 112-114. They have both had 1 fight since and both won by decision.
Billy Dib is 3-1 odds to win in rematch. Which I think is generous.
It does seem generous. But how close really was the fight taking away the scorecards?
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 17:30
by Finn
cutsman wrote:Also To put it in perspective. Say for instance that froch and groves had fought back in March and Groves lost by split decision. Do you think he would be still be priced at 3/1 for the rematch?
well look at the odds for the price v thompson rematch price was still favourite

Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 17:33
by palooka
Doesn't the price reflect the amount of money placed on a boxer and not the likelyhood of the boxer winning?
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 18:38
by WelshJack
Sky Vegas are giving a £2 free bet on Cops and robbers just to let you all know I won 40p haha, so I whacked it on this:
Quigg rounds 1-4
Groves points
Pacquiao 8-12 or points
Barker
Trout
Alexander
Rigondeaux
Returns £69.45
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 18:41
by Finn
palooka wrote:Doesn't the price reflect the amount of money placed on a boxer and not the likelyhood of the boxer winning?
Its a bit of both they try to offset the money placed on certain fighters and outcomes by fiddling with the odds.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 18:44
by palooka
Finn wrote:palooka wrote:Doesn't the price reflect the amount of money placed on a boxer and not the likelyhood of the boxer winning?
Its a bit of both they try to offset the money placed on certain fighters and outcomes by fiddling with the odds.
Thanks Finn

I sometimes come to this thread and am utterly confused; I imagined it'd be quite straightforward but it maybe the argot.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 23 Nov 2013, 05:44
by ShadrachSimmo
Is anyone thinking about taking Rios for the win? 6-1 stoppage.
Everyone goes on about him being made for Pacquiao but it swings both ways surely?
Has Rios ever been down or really hurt in a fight? Maybe the Marquez fight has finished Pacman and he's there for the taking. I may have a few quid on Rios stoppage.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 23 Nov 2013, 12:51
by lefthook82
Big on a not to go distance double in Pacman/Froch fights@ just above evens
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 23 Nov 2013, 14:06
by JC
Froch/Groves and Pac/Rios +9.5 Rnds, comes out at about 3.5/1
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 25 Nov 2013, 11:34
by Bard of Boxrec
No Stevenson/Bellew method of victory/group round/round odds yet ANYWHERE. LOL.
The bookies are doing that thing they do when they're scared and they need some help from their friends on Boxrec before the game of chicken starts. Well, noone should give them any. Unless they're wrong of course.
Hey bookies, I dare you to open the market on this one.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 16:48
by GlobalBox
Bellew 100/1 early rounds. too big for me, threw a fiver at each of the first six rounds, if he catches Stevenson clean he goes for me.
Prices up with Bwin & Skybet if anyone fancies anything
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 17:17
by ShadrachSimmo
Riddick Blowe wrote:No Stevenson/Bellew method of victory/group round/round odds yet ANYWHERE. LOL.
The bookies are doing that thing they do when they're scared and they need some help from their friends on Boxrec before the game of chicken starts. Well, noone should give them any. Unless they're wrong of course.
Hey bookies, I dare you to open the market on this one.
Skybet do. Stevenson 1/2 stoppage.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 28 Nov 2013, 09:13
by cutsman
GlobalBox wrote:Bellew 100/1 early rounds. too big for me, threw a fiver at each of the first six rounds, if he catches Stevenson clean he goes for me.
Prices up with Bwin & Skybet if anyone fancies anything
Best to take sky's 18/1 on bellew rds 1-6