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punchoutsb wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I don't like either of them. Screw wonderboy Lawler, Robbie vs either Diaz is the fight to make. Woodley vs maia & wonderboy can have a nice rest. Seems like a great guy and he's highly skilled, I just hate him.

While I don't hate Wonderboy, I've never been a big fan. I agree, I'd love to see Robbie/Diaz, while Robbie/Wonderboy does nothing for me. 170 is not a strong division at the moment; I want to see Maia beat Woodley so bad it hurts. There are literally no intriguing fights for Wonderboy right now either...Masvidal since he'll likely get a squash match to replace Maia being pulled? Cowboy? Magny? Stun Gun? Gunnar? I think Wonderboy walks through all those guys. Nothing out there right now.

Wonderboy just feints and poses. He takes little pot shots but can't set anything up. Yes he's very quick and has great balance but I just don't see him as a real fighter, more like a point TKD guy. He wants to win rounds by a single strike, often a flicky kick or a jab. Horrible to watch.

I have something admit and it's kind of embarrassing. I really want to fornicate bethe Correia

I wonder if someone like Edson Barboza could pull off a game plan long enough to slow Conor McGregor down before he could catch him with that've left hand. The fight would be at range where both guys would want it. Barboza could definitely put quick kicks through McGregors guard but McGregor could easily land his left hand on Barboza. Barboza would be able to use movement to stay on the outside in kicking range but maybe then draw McGregor and his ego into a kicking match. Once McGregor was in boxing range Barboza could possibly shoot and get the TD or at worst create a clinch where McGregor is least effective standing. Of course I understand that Barboza doesn't have a great chin or boxing defence but with a good game plan could he use body and leg kicks mixed with some wrestling to overcome McGregors boxing. It's definitely a fight I want to see before McGregor retires. I would pick McGregor to land before Barboza can use kicks to slow him down enough but I think it would be exciting. Having said that Barboza can change any fight with one kick to head, body or leg.

Gastelum is the real deal. Very well rounded fighter and even though he's short for 185 I don't think he lacks for strength in the division. I think Whittaker/Gastelum would be fantastic, but I'm not sure they'll wanna knock off 1 of their 2 best young MWs. Then again, they've matched both guys tough before, so maybe it could happen.

I don't think this would be a bad time for Anderson/Vitor II. Would be a cool legends fight that would probably do a big gate in Brazil.

With Khabib missing weight, I'd like them to go direct to a McGregor/Ferguson fight, and have Barboza/Khabib as the #1 contender fight. But I have my doubts they'll do this.

There's so many rumours surrounding Khabib it's really hard to know what's going on. There seems to be a new one every day and conflicting stories from his team. No one seems confident about what exactly Conor will do and if he gets the Mayweather fight, I think it will end up looking like the Gatti fight, probably worse and he could have a lengthy medical suspension if that's the case. The situation at LW is fucked thanks to Conor, then Khabib fucked up and made it worse. The fact Dana hasn't come out and said anything says to me that he's working on something involving Khabib/Ferguson/Conor or he is just as confused as the fans.

Gastelum vs Whitaker could decide who will be the champ in the future. I would be very excited to see that fight. I don't think the UFC is in a rush to match them up. Gastelum is saying if he doesn't get the Silva fight that he'll move down to 170. I still think a win over TRTless Vitor means fornicate all though. You can see it in his body now just how aged he is without the juice. One hell of a long career against the best of the last 20 years and he deserves a gimme to go out on a win.

They should not allow Gastelum to go back down to 170. The last thing we need is him getting signed to a big fight against someone like Lawler or Thompson, only to miss weight again. The guy is literally undefeated at 185, I have no idea why he's so insistent on fighting at 170.

jujigatame wrote:They should not allow Gastelum to go back down to 170. The last thing we need is him getting signed to a big fight against someone like Lawler or Thompson, only to miss weight again. The guy is literally undefeated at 185, I have no idea why he's so insistent on fighting at 170.

He looks tubby at 185...

Tomasino wrote:

jujigatame wrote:They should not allow Gastelum to go back down to 170. The last thing we need is him getting signed to a big fight against someone like Lawler or Thompson, only to miss weight again. The guy is literally undefeated at 185, I have no idea why he's so insistent on fighting at 170.

He looks tubby at 185...

Agreed. He should definitely be at 170. He just needs to be more dedicated and/or clever.

He may look tubby at 185, but the proof is in the pudding. He's beaten everyone he's faced there, and that includes some very good fighters. Down at 170 he lost decisions to both Woodley and Magny. He's only 25, it's not gonna get any easier for him to keep the weight off.

Khabib may be retiring due to a liver condition which could be the reason why he missed weight and was in so much pain. It will be a real shame if it turns out to be true.

p4p1 wrote:Khabib may be retiring due to a liver condition which could be the reason why he missed weight and was in so much pain. It will be a real shame if it turns out to be true.

It wasn't because he was so dehydrated that the blood thickened and the flow was reduced, causing BS to pile up in his system?

He has to realize the fact he's done at 155. 170 probably doesn't sound that exciting though.

JCS wrote:

p4p1 wrote:Khabib may be retiring due to a liver condition which could be the reason why he missed weight and was in so much pain. It will be a real shame if it turns out to be true.

It wasn't because he was so dehydrated that the blood thickened and the flow was reduced, causing BS to pile up in his system?

He has to realize the fact he's done at 155. 170 probably doesn't sound that exciting though.

Supposedly it's some rare disease but then Rockhold says he just wasn't getting blood to his liver and should be good for a return soon. There's so many stories itd impossible to know.

Asterix wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

jujigatame wrote:They should not allow Gastelum to go back down to 170. The last thing we need is him getting signed to a big fight against someone like Lawler or Thompson, only to miss weight again. The guy is literally undefeated at 185, I have no idea why he's so insistent on fighting at 170.

He looks tubby at 185...

Agreed. He should definitely be at 170. He just needs to be more dedicated and/or clever.

Doesn't matter if he looks tubby at the weight. Hendricks looks tubby at that weight as well, but he was killing himself to make 170. Just because someone looks like they are carrying a little bit of extra weight doesn't mean it is their best weight. I'd find it hard to believe a guy like Gastelum would slack off when it comes to cutting weight. And if cutting weight is a big part of any fighter's camp, they should move up.

p4p1 wrote:

JCS wrote:

p4p1 wrote:Khabib may be retiring due to a liver condition which could be the reason why he missed weight and was in so much pain. It will be a real shame if it turns out to be true.

It wasn't because he was so dehydrated that the blood thickened and the flow was reduced, causing BS to pile up in his system?

He has to realize the fact he's done at 155. 170 probably doesn't sound that exciting though.

Supposedly it's some rare disease but then Rockhold says he just wasn't getting blood to his liver and should be good for a return soon. There's so many stories itd impossible to know.

Rockhold doesn't strike me as particularly bright.. I'm no doctor either, but I'd be willing to bet that extreme, prolonged dehydration was a contributing factor here.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Asterix wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

He looks tubby at 185...

Agreed. He should definitely be at 170. He just needs to be more dedicated and/or clever.

Doesn't matter if he looks tubby at the weight. Hendricks looks tubby at that weight as well, but he was killing himself to make 170. Just because someone looks like they are carrying a little bit of extra weight doesn't mean it is their best weight. I'd find it hard to believe a guy like Gastelum would slack off when it comes to cutting weight. And if cutting weight is a big part of any fighter's camp, they should move up.

In the lead up to Khabib vs. Ferguson there was footage of Gastelum training with Ferguson and he looked so much bigger/fatter than he should have. He obviously doesn't watch what he eats.

Interesting doc on iPlayer about cutting weight and the effect it has on the kidneys and liver, features a scouser mma fighter called Dean Garnett.

I know it will never happen but I would love for them to come up with a way to get rid of weight cutting.

Silva vs Gastelum official for 212.

p4p1 wrote:Silva vs Gastelum official for 212.

Weird fight, not awful but definitely not what I was expecting.

Apparently Jacare vs. Whittaker may happen as well.

JCS wrote:

p4p1 wrote:

JCS wrote:
It wasn't because he was so dehydrated that the blood thickened and the flow was reduced, causing BS to pile up in his system?

He has to realize the fact he's done at 155. 170 probably doesn't sound that exciting though.

Supposedly it's some rare disease but then Rockhold says he just wasn't getting blood to his liver and should be good for a return soon. There's so many stories itd impossible to know.

Rockhold doesn't strike me as particularly bright.. I'm no doctor either, but I'd be willing to bet that extreme, prolonged dehydration was a contributing factor here.

Well it can cause permanent damage to your kidneys, I know that much. I believe it damages all of your internal organs if severe enough.

jujigatame wrote:

p4p1 wrote:Silva vs Gastelum official for 212.

Weird fight, not awful but definitely not what I was expecting.

Apparently Jacare vs. Whittaker may happen as well.

It's official for 211 I'm pretty sure. That one surprised me more than Silva vs Gastelum. If Jacare gets it to the ground it's all over but Whittaker is always dangerous standing.

for Michael bisping. Evidently gsp wants to wait until September and Mike said fornicate that, I'm fighting in July. If not you, Romero.he is polarizing, but the epitome of a warrior and a champion. His opponents list is pushing hendo.

I listened to that, it did sound like he was just over the bullshit that GSP(according to him) is bringing. It's hard to disagree with what he is saying about it though. It would be a risky move taking on Romero before GSP though and it could potentially cost him a few millions bucks. I hope he does it though, I'm not a fan of how GSP decided to come back at or before the start of the year but still wants 9+ months to prepare and expects an entire division to be stalled for him.

It's hard to imagine a worse matchup for bisping than Romero. Basically his only edge is cardio. At his age? Not waiting? Definitely millions on the line. War bisping!