Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

Who wins?

Poll ended at 23 Apr 2022, 11:41

Fury - Decision
63
31%
Fury - T/KO
109
54%
DRAW
3
1%
Whyte - T/KO
24
12%
Whyte - Decision
3
1%
 
Total votes: 202

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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

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Dioufy wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 10:04 Tyson nearly a stone lighter means he’s probably gonna box more; therefore a UD and bore/clinch fest likely.
Fury 119-109.
I think Whyte could be favoured in the clinch so it's got to be stick and move from Fury. Land a handful of jabs per round and go for the decision. This is unless Whyte has been planning for this style of fight the past few months and has a decent gameplan to counteract it.
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Post by Glass Joe »

Not really bothered who wins tomorrow tbh, Hope Whyte hurts Fury early on dont want to see a Fury - Chisora 2 fight.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

Post by gregregegg »

I actually like whytes chances more after weigh ins. feel fury had to be 250s to back foot master class him, and 270s to hold his feet. 264 is kinda nomans land (or is it best of both worlds)...

I dont think Fury can be the back foot fury of old at 263 and a few years older legs. Should still be able to outbox whyte, but probably not just absolutely master class him with movment. and at these weights will probably be the weaker man in the rough and tumble (although can use his height to leaan)... Think this actualy gives whyte a shot to pick his moments. He will get outboxed most of the time, but if he picks his bursts anything can happen.

Key unknowns for me are how they will take each others power and whytes gass tank (it confuses me every time)... and how effective whytes body punching will be. oh and furys stance of coarse.

all that said, fury is still a deserving solid favorite.
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joshj909 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 10:13
Dioufy wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 10:04 Tyson nearly a stone lighter means he’s probably gonna box more; therefore a UD and bore/clinch fest likely.
Fury 119-109.
I think Whyte could be favoured in the clinch so it's got to be stick and move from Fury. Land a handful of jabs per round and go for the decision. This is unless Whyte has been planning for this style of fight the past few months and has a decent gameplan to counteract it.
It wouldn’t be the biggest surprise if Fury has gone a bit chinny now, and Whyte can cancel out the points deficit by flooring Fury multiple times. Should be quite interesting to see if the unhealthy living has caught up Tyson.
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polecateddy wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 10:23
joshj909 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 10:13
Dioufy wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 10:04 Tyson nearly a stone lighter means he’s probably gonna box more; therefore a UD and bore/clinch fest likely.
Fury 119-109.
I think Whyte could be favoured in the clinch so it's got to be stick and move from Fury. Land a handful of jabs per round and go for the decision. This is unless Whyte has been planning for this style of fight the past few months and has a decent gameplan to counteract it.
It wouldn’t be the biggest surprise if Fury has gone a bit chinny now, and Whyte can cancel out the points deficit by flooring Fury multiple times. Should be quite interesting to see if the unhealthy living has caught up Tyson.
You've got his weight completely wrong, put money against him, I'm sure it was you who said he couldn't sell out the crowd and he did it wouldn't be all for him.... now he's going down multiple times. Oh, yes, and his unhealthy lifestyle. What has Tyson done to you?!
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Post by maverick23 »

Whether or not it actually helps him in the fight I think Whyte has played his prep very well. Looks super relaxed and Tyson hasn’t hammered him mentally as he may well have done If they’d both attended the original press conference.

An interesting weigh in for us guys but not one that’s going to ramp up the anticipation for the fight.
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mickey1975 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 10:36
polecateddy wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 10:23
joshj909 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 10:13

I think Whyte could be favoured in the clinch so it's got to be stick and move from Fury. Land a handful of jabs per round and go for the decision. This is unless Whyte has been planning for this style of fight the past few months and has a decent gameplan to counteract it.
It wouldn’t be the biggest surprise if Fury has gone a bit chinny now, and Whyte can cancel out the points deficit by flooring Fury multiple times. Should be quite interesting to see if the unhealthy living has caught up Tyson.
You've got his weight completely wrong, put money against him, I'm sure it was you who said he couldn't sell out the crowd and he did it wouldn't be all for him.... now he's going down multiple times. Oh, yes, and his unhealthy lifestyle. What has Tyson done to you?!
I think the question we all actually want to know is what has Tyson done to you?!
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Because I've always backed him? Let me know when I was wrong...
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mickey1975 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 11:04 Because I've always backed him? Let me know when I was wrong...
You jump to his defence for everything. It's as if nobody can have an opinion and Fury is Jesus reincarnate. Not seen bias like it since Boxtune's adoration of Ajagba.
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joshj909 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 11:07
mickey1975 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 11:04 Because I've always backed him? Let me know when I was wrong...
You jump to his defence for everything. It's as if nobody can have an opinion and Fury is Jesus reincarnate. Not seen bias like it since Boxtune's adoration of Ajagba.
I think it's a tiny bit more of you guys insisting he's useless for nearly 15 years... I just pointed out wasn't. Wilder was apparently going to kill him, and Wlad... god forbid if AJ ever got his hands on him. I'm hated for saying that none of you had a clue.
(I respect loads of people's opinions on here, just some really do know sh!t about boxing).
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mickey1975 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 11:25
joshj909 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 11:07
mickey1975 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 11:04 Because I've always backed him? Let me know when I was wrong...
You jump to his defence for everything. It's as if nobody can have an opinion and Fury is Jesus reincarnate. Not seen bias like it since Boxtune's adoration of Ajagba.
I think it's a tiny bit more of you guys insisting he's useless for nearly 15 years... I just pointed out wasn't. Wilder was apparently going to kill him, and Wlad... god forbid if AJ ever got his hands on him. I'm hated for saying that none of you had a clue.
(I respect loads of people's opinions on here, just some really do know sh!t about boxing).
I'll admit I underestimated him a few times (Vs Wlad for example) but I thought he was levels above Wilder and it could only be years off during his drugs ban which could have held him back. He's undoubtedly the favourite in this fight but I think most would agree but it's not a foregone conclusion. He has his vulnerabilities, as all boxers do, that's what a lot of people are here to discuss.
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mickey1975 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 11:25
joshj909 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 11:07
mickey1975 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 11:04 Because I've always backed him? Let me know when I was wrong...
You jump to his defence for everything. It's as if nobody can have an opinion and Fury is Jesus reincarnate. Not seen bias like it since Boxtune's adoration of Ajagba.
I think it's a tiny bit more of you guys insisting he's useless for nearly 15 years... I just pointed out wasn't. Wilder was apparently going to kill him, and Wlad... god forbid if AJ ever got his hands on him. I'm hated for saying that none of you had a clue.
(I respect loads of people's opinions on here, just some really do know sh!t about boxing).
So presumably you see this fight as mirroring the two Chisora fights? I think you’ve got it a bit wrong this time. But if Fury’s really still on song, you can laugh at me for losing £32 on Whyte.
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Close fight, really not sure how this will go. If it gets ugly that might suit Whyte.
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gregregegg wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 10:22 I actually like whytes chances more after weigh ins. feel fury had to be 250s to back foot master class him, and 270s to hold his feet. 264 is kinda nomans land (or is it best of both worlds)...

I dont think Fury can be the back foot fury of old at 263 and a few years older legs. Should still be able to outbox whyte, but probably not just absolutely master class him with movment. and at these weights will probably be the weaker man in the rough and tumble (although can use his height to leaan)... Think this actualy gives whyte a shot to pick his moments. He will get outboxed most of the time, but if he picks his bursts anything can happen.

Key unknowns for me are how they will take each others power and whytes gass tank (it confuses me every time)... and how effective whytes body punching will be. oh and furys stance of coarse.

all that said, fury is still a deserving solid favorite.
But even at 270lbs his feet are much faster than Whyte. He looks in much better shape than in any bout since he's been back for my money. He's more muscle than he had in Wilder 1 and leaner than Wilder 2 or 3.

He won't look to simply back foot box anyway with a Kronk trainer in his corner. He'll look to control the range and exchanges with his jab, footwork and speed and time some big shots down the pipe. Also Whyte likes to fight at his own pace. A better conditioned Fury means he can maybe make Whyte fight at a pace he isn't comfortable with.

You mentioned Whyte's gas tank. The thing he does is really swing all of his body into haymakers. A big man throwing those type of punches means he needs a to recover the gas tank after throwing 2 or 3. If he starts missing haymakers like he can do he's going to gas. But then he has the lottery ticket chance of 1 of them taking Fury out or at least putting him down. You'd expect Fury's footwork and head movement to make those haymakers quite hard to land.
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Isn’t gas tank a reasonably good feature of Whyte though, in that he outworked Parker, Chisora and others in long fights? Fury’s weight still means he cant really be as fleet-footed as he was against Wlad, which I’d regard as his peak and a number of years ago now - nearly 7 years in fact! He might well be put tomorrow into an uncomfortable position of slugging it out with a fighter with heavier hands and more natural body strength. Perhaps okay against someone lacking in skill like Wilder, but I’d think Whyte has a higher level of accuracy and technique than the American.
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whyte has a 21 year old son and 6 year old grand son??!? wtf :o
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margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 12:27 whyte has a 21 year old son and 6 year old grand son??!? wtf :o
I’m pretty sure I heard Dean say he’s got two 28 year old kids too. Those boys didn’t hang around.
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polecateddy wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 12:24 Isn’t gas tank a reasonably good feature of Whyte though, in that he outworked Parker, Chisora and others in long fights? Fury’s weight still means he cant really be as fleet-footed as he was against Wlad, which I’d regard as his peak and a number of years ago now - nearly 7 years in fact! He might well be put tomorrow into an uncomfortable position of slugging it out with a fighter with heavier hands and more natural body strength. Perhaps okay against someone lacking in skill like Wilder, but I’d think Whyte has a higher level of accuracy and technique than the American.
Chisora was outlanding/outworking Whyte but Whyte landing the bigger punches in 2 very close fights. Whyte was also practically out in the final round against Parker.

As for a slugfest, it'll be on Fury's terms, he'll dominate footwork, angles and handspeed.
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polecateddy wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 12:24 Isn’t gas tank a reasonably good feature of Whyte though, in that he outworked Parker, Chisora and others in long fights? Fury’s weight still means he cant really be as fleet-footed as he was against Wlad, which I’d regard as his peak and a number of years ago now - nearly 7 years in fact! He might well be put tomorrow into an uncomfortable position of slugging it out with a fighter with heavier hands and more natural body strength. Perhaps okay against someone lacking in skill like Wilder, but I’d think Whyte has a higher level of accuracy and technique than the American.
Do you think Whyte would have won an Olympic medal? I wouldn't have him winning the ABA's.
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mickey1975 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 12:41
polecateddy wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 12:24 Isn’t gas tank a reasonably good feature of Whyte though, in that he outworked Parker, Chisora and others in long fights? Fury’s weight still means he cant really be as fleet-footed as he was against Wlad, which I’d regard as his peak and a number of years ago now - nearly 7 years in fact! He might well be put tomorrow into an uncomfortable position of slugging it out with a fighter with heavier hands and more natural body strength. Perhaps okay against someone lacking in skill like Wilder, but I’d think Whyte has a higher level of accuracy and technique than the American.
Do you think Whyte would have won an Olympic medal? I wouldn't have him winning the ABA's.
I don’t think that’s hugely relevant, given that their respective amateur careers are a very long time ago now. I just think fighters do reach their expiry date, and Fury is likely approaching his.
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usyk and aj both olympic champs, obviously skill levels far beyond these 2 chumps :OhYes:
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Surprised that Whyte didn’t come in a bit lighter. I think this is a good weight for Fury, it’s difficult to see anything other than Fury UD. I can’t see him stopping Whyte who only really has the punchers chance…
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it depends how fury fights. if whyte starts to tire and fury decides to lay into him, i could defo see a stoppage. if fury just wants to backfoot box all fight, then obviously less likely
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polecateddy wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 12:47
mickey1975 wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 12:41
polecateddy wrote: 22 Apr 2022, 12:24 Isn’t gas tank a reasonably good feature of Whyte though, in that he outworked Parker, Chisora and others in long fights? Fury’s weight still means he cant really be as fleet-footed as he was against Wlad, which I’d regard as his peak and a number of years ago now - nearly 7 years in fact! He might well be put tomorrow into an uncomfortable position of slugging it out with a fighter with heavier hands and more natural body strength. Perhaps okay against someone lacking in skill like Wilder, but I’d think Whyte has a higher level of accuracy and technique than the American.
Do you think Whyte would have won an Olympic medal? I wouldn't have him winning the ABA's.
I don’t think that’s hugely relevant, given that their respective amateur careers are a very long time ago now. I just think fighters do reach their expiry date, and Fury is likely approaching his.
maybe thats why he is retiring - perhaps he knows its time to quit whilst unbeaten .
If he remains unbeaten that is .
Still would want to see him fight aj and usyk to be able to remove all doubts about who the best HW really is .
Sorry for all you Fury fans but I cant ever accept wilder as any kind of benchmark as his resume is piss poor so for me the jury is out on Tyson Fury until he fights the other top HW `s .
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