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Randyman wrote:Looks like page 924 was wiped out. I have been having problems but I thought it was just me. Not sure what's going on.

Randy

Were we on page 924?

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:Looks like page 924 was wiped out. I have been having problems but I thought it was just me. Not sure what's going on.

Randy

Were we on page 924?

The post about the roaring twenties is gone. that was on 924.

We're now....

Maybe the powers that be didn't like my posting about people dying....

kikibalt wrote:We're now....

Maybe the powers that be didn't like my posting about people dying....

Earlier today page 924 disappeared for a few minutes and then it came back. I thought it was my computer acting up.

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:We're now....

Maybe the powers that be didn't like my posting about people dying....

Earlier today page 924 disappeared for a few minutes and then it came back. I thought it was my computer acting up.

Well, maybe it will come back....

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:We're now....

Maybe the powers that be didn't like my posting about people dying....

Earlier today page 924 disappeared for a few minutes and then it came back. I thought it was my computer acting up.

Well, maybe it will come back....

I also had problems yesterday logging on. Have you had any problems logging on?

Yes, I did, all day Saturday....

kikibalt wrote:Yes, I did, all day Saturday....

It just occurred to me that no other thread on this forum and probably not too many others has gone to this many pages. maybe the system is having a problem handling the numbers.

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Yes, I did, all day Saturday....

It just occurred to me that no other thread on this forum and probably not too many others has gone to this many pages. maybe the system is having a problem handling the numbers.

Could be, thats the problem, I never seen a thread with these many pages on this or other sites.

Nite, time to go to sleep....

Man, I enjoyed watching Cagney and Bogie in the Roaring Twenties. No one in the movies knew how to die better then Cagney.

Randy

kikibalt wrote:Nite, time to go to sleep....

Same here in a bit. Good night.

El Gato wrote:Hello Everyone,

Do you remember me? I haven't posted here for a long time.

First of all, Roger, you did a very nice painting of Pacquiao. I didn't get to see his fight as I was at LAX returning from my trip to Guadalajara.

It was a great privilege for me to be in my hometown once again after 47 years.
The reason I had been invited was to be honored along with 18 other champions that have come out of the same area (the State of Jalisco, Guadalajara being the capitol.)This exciting event on Friday was the first such event in Guadalajara's boxing history. The list of champions started with my cousin. Jose Becerra, who was the first champion who won the title in 1959. The list continued through 2009, 50 years of boxing champions. Jose received a standing ovation in celebration of his 50 years of being a champion.

Here is the list of champions---Jose Becerra, Efren "Alacran" Torres, Juan Zurita, Rafael Herrera. Rodolfo "Gato" Gonzalez, Pedro Flores, Antonio Avelar, Gorge Vaca, Alejandro Gonzalez, Rafael Ruelas, Gabriel Ruelas, Oscar Larios,
Javier Jauregui, Ulises Solis, Omar Nino, Manuel Vargas, Irma Sanchez, Saul Alvarez, and Juan Jose Montes. The event will be shown nationwide on TELEVISA on November 19, however I don't know the time.

I have stories to tell about this event, but that will be in my next post tomorrow.

El Gato

Rodolfo, you had me laughing the other day when you spoke of Alacran Torres. You got to tell the story. Also, his brother Alacrancito, what was it he does now? I always remember reading his name in the magazines. It seemed like everytime I picked up a boxing mag, the name Jorge Torres was mentioned about three times in differing fights. A well travelled world class clubfighter.

Scartissue

Randyman wrote:Man, I enjoyed watching Cagney and Bogie in the Roaring Twenties. No one in the movies knew how to die better then Cagney.

Randy

Randy . . . I posted that my grandfather did that film. He was Warner Bros. #1 lighting designer of that great era. That's not important to anybody but me, but out of a great pride and respect for a man who did things that made my life the best it can be today, I'll mention it again. In my mind and in my life, my grandad was the man! And like you & Frank, I've had problems with this thread this past weekend. We are so damn big, things are bound to go wrong sometimes. Just hope we don't lose it all. John Bardelli has the first year on record, but I'd hate to lose #2 before we have it etched in stone.

-Ricardo

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Mayweather calls Pacquiao out, Arum says silence is golden
November 16, 2009

Floyd Mayweather Jr. has been quiet for weeks as Manny Pacquiao prepared for, then delivered, a stirring performance in his 12th-round TKO of Miguel Cotto Saturday night in Las Vegas.

On Monday, Mayweather (40-0) released a statement through his publicist expressing concern that pound-for-pound and world welterweight champion Pacquiao hasn't been more aggressive in pushing for a showdown that could be the most lucrative event in the sport's history.

The release said Mayweather listened to several comments made by Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, and trainer, Freddie Roach, but "still has yet to hear Manny Pacquiao himself say he wants to fight him."

Pacquiao, after the Cotto victory, said he does the fighting and lets Arum select who he'll fight. He has also expressed doubt Mayweather wants to fight him.

"Manny Pacquiao is the fighter and every time someone asks him if he wants to fight me, he says it is up to my promoter ... ," Mayweather said in the statement. "I have yet to hear him actually say, 'Yes, I want to fight Mayweather.' We are the fighters and if one fighter is talking about fighting another fighter, then they should just come out and say it. Manny Pacquiao doesn't say anything directly about fighting me because he might just know it's not a fight he can win."

That qualifies as calling Pacquiao out.

Defensive specialist Mayweather criticized Pacquiao for saying "Money" only cares about cash and not producing entertaining fights.

"Why is he talking about what I won't do instead of what he wants to do?" Mayweather asked in the statement. "Plain and simple, it's because he knows he can't beat me under any circumstances.

"Less than an hour after his fight, ... the talk turns to me. Their whole promotion was just a Mayweather sweepstakes. ... The world is much more intrigued by the thought of someone fighting me who can beat me. ... Manny Pacquiao's people have done a good job of creating an image of him to be this unbelievable fighter and now the so-called guy to beat me. But like all the rest, he's not the one.

"Tell Manny Pacquiao to be his own man and stop letting everyone, including his loudmouth trainer, talk for him. If Manny Pacquiao wants to fight me, all he has to do is step up to the plate and say it himself."

Pacquiao wasn't immediately available Monday.

His promoter Bob Arum declined to discuss the beginning of negotiations, and said he's urging those around his company to keep quiet publicly.

"The one way this will be upset and not happen if it is negotiated through the newspapers," Arum told The Times Monday. "All I want to say is that my guy [Pacquiao] has said, 'We're here, we're ready to fight Mayweather.' "

So there you go.

Arum added he was deluged Monday by more interest from suitors looking to host the fight, including officials from the new New York Giants/Jets stadium, Yankee Stadium, Citi Field in New York, the Dallas Cowboys' stadium, the City of New Orleans, and Las Vegas authorities pitching the construction of a 30,000-seat outdoor facility.

--Lance Pugmire
LATimes

Harry Kabakoff, born Melville Himmelfarb and know as the "Mad Russian" has died.

Kabakoff's best known fighter was Jesus Pimentel who fought Ruben Olivares for the bantamweight title, losing by ko, he also managed other lesser known fighters, who he kept busy fighting at the fame Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, Ca.

Roger,

You are right about going to Jiquilpan one of these days next year. What is the best time of the year to go?

El Gato

kikibalt wrote:Harry Kabakoff, born Melville Himmelfarb and know as the "Mad Russian" has died.

Kabakoff's best known fighter was Jesus Pimentel who fought Ruben Olivares for the bantamweight title, losing by ko, he also managed other lesser known fighters, who he kept busy fighting at the fame Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, Ca.

El Russo Loco . . . R.I.P.

Last time I saw Harry Kabakoff was in 1995, at the Olympic.
Sitting nearby were Archie Moore, Jackie McCoy, Don Chargin and Bennie Georgino.
Harry was wearing his trademark Hawaiian shirt and a straw hat.

I remember in 1970 beating one of Kabakoff's boxers, Frankie Granados, in my second pro fight.
I still remember the referee John Thomas giving the instructions, in the center of the ring.
I saw Kabakoff standing in front of Johnny Flores and I with his fighter.

Seeing Harry in the ring across from me in that big Hawaiian shirt, made me realize that I'd reached a goal.
I was a part of the L.A. professional boxing scene. A small part, but I was fighting a Harry Kabakoff fighter on TV from the Olympic.
I remember those exact thoughts from that night in summer, 1970.

I'd grown up watching Harry with his best fighter, the great Jesus "Little Poison" Pimentel.
I didn't really care about anyplace else. I wanted to be one of the guys I saw fight at the Olympic.
Pimentel was my favorite bantam in the 60's, right up to Olivares.

In 1967, I recall Pimentel fighting Canadian Jackie Burke st the Olympic.
As part of the pre-fight publicity, I remember the Heral-Examiner posting a photo of Kabakoff & Pimentel in the Olympic ring, wearing Batman & Robin costumes.
They were truly a "Dynamic Duo".

Ringside TV announcer, Jim Healy, would refer to Kabakoff as "Hula Harry."

Harry is one of the last of the legends of my era in L.A. boxing.
I remember him so well. Gone with Harry is a wealth of boxing history.


-Rick Farris

WE'LL JUST LET HIM BE A DOG AGAIN

"So how's Philip doing?"I asked Pete the cop.
I had walked across the street from my sisters' to watch the football game.
"He was doing fine until the other night,"he answered.
Pete the cop was in charge of the San Diego Police Department's attack dogs. Chief,his old shepard was retired.Pete was given Philip,another shepard, to train.

"What happened?"
Pete was stirring a drink when he replied.
"There was this call about some nut case throwing rocks at cars from his backyard. Screaming and yelling. He was naked and had sprayed painted his body white. Had everybody scared."
Pete sat down and set a drink in front of me.
"We bean bagged this psycho. Nothing. Then we tasered him. Again,nothing. So we sent in Philip."
I'd seen Philip in his kennel in Pete's backyard. Nobody could interact with Philip except Pete who handled him . Philip must of had the goods or he wouldn't have passed muster.
"How'd Philip do?"
"Well he went in there and had the guy's arm,but the wacko picked up one of those small spare tires and was smashing it against Philip's head. We had to bum rush this guy to take him down. Philip got his ass kicked."

I felt bad for 'ol Philip. He seemed like a nice dog.
"Will Philip be OK?"
"Hard to tell. First we'll let him be a dog again. Then we'll let him win some fights we know he can win. Then we'll see. Some come back. Others don't."
"And if he doesn't?"
"We'll give Philip to a family. He'll make a good pet."

Pete broke out a couple of cigars.
"Roger,wasn't there a fight last night?"
"Yeah."
"Who won?'
"The Philippino."
"And the other guy?"
Pete didn't follow the fights much.
"He got his ass kicked. I don't think he ever recovered from the last beating he took."

El Gato wrote:Roger,

You are right about going to Jiquilpan one of these days next year. What is the best time of the year to go?

El Gato

Gato
We'll be going in February for two weeks. The climate is very nice.Let us know if you and Barb are available. Rog.

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Harry Kabakoff, born Melville Himmelfarb and know as the "Mad Russian" has died.

Kabakoff's best known fighter was Jesus Pimentel who fought Ruben Olivares for the bantamweight title, losing by ko, he also managed other lesser known fighters, who he kept busy fighting at the fame Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, Ca.

El Russo Loco . . . R.I.P.

The way that guy looked and acted,I'm surprised he lasted that long. Rest in Peace big guy.

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Harry Kabakoff, born Melville Himmelfarb and know as the "Mad Russian" has died.

Kabakoff's best known fighter was Jesus Pimentel who fought Ruben Olivares for the bantamweight title, losing by ko, he also managed other lesser known fighters, who he kept busy fighting at the fame Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, Ca.

El Russo Loco . . . R.I.P.

Last time I saw Harry Kabakoff was in 1995, at the Olympic.
Sitting nearby were Archie Moore, Jackie McCoy, Don Chargin and Bennie Georgino.
Harry was wearing his trademark Hawaiian shirt and a straw hat.

I remember in 1970 beating one of Kabakoff's boxers, Frankie Granados, in my second pro fight.
I still remember referee John Thomas giving the instructions, in the center of the ring.
I saw Kabakoff standing in front of Johnny Flores and I with his fighter.

Seeing Harry in the ring across from me in that big Hawaiian shirt, made me realize that I'd reached a goal.
I was a part of the L.A. professional boxing scene. A small part, but I was fighting a Harry Kabakoff fighter on TV from the Olympic.
I remember those exact thoughts from that night in summer, 1970.

I'd grown up watching Harry with his best fighter, the great Jesus "Little Poison" Pimentel.
I wanted to be one of the guys I saw fight at the Olympic.
Pimentel was my favorite bantam in the 60's, right up to Olivares.

In 1967, I recall Pimentel fighting Canadian Jackie Burke st the Olympic.
As part of the pre-fight publicity, I remember the Heral-Examiner posting a photo of Kabakoff & Pimentel in the Olympic ring, wearing Batman & Robin costumes.
They were truly a "Dynamic Duo".

Ringside TV announcer, Jim Healy, would refer to Kabakoff as "Hula Harry."

Harry is one of the last of the legends of my era in L.A. boxing.
I remember him so well. Gone with Harry is a wealth of boxing history.


-Rick Farris

Frank . . . Frankie Jr. made his main event debut against a heavily favored Harry Kabakoff fighter, Chango Cruz.
Frankie scored a big upset that night.

Rick Farris wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Harry Kabakoff, born Melville Himmelfarb and know as the "Mad Russian" has died.

Kabakoff's best known fighter was Jesus Pimentel who fought Ruben Olivares for the bantamweight title, losing by ko, he also managed other lesser known fighters, who he kept busy fighting at the fame Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, Ca.

El Russo Loco . . . R.I.P.

Last time I saw Harry Kabakoff was in 1995, at the Olympic.
Sitting nearby were Archie Moore, Jackie McCoy, Don Chargin and Bennie Georgino.
Harry was wearing his trademark Hawaiian shirt and a straw hat.

I remember in 1970 beating one of Kabakoff's boxers, Frankie Granados, in my second pro fight.
I still remember referee John Thomas giving the instructions, in the center of the ring.
I saw Kabakoff standing in front of Johnny Flores and I with his fighter.

Seeing Harry in the ring across from me in that big Hawaiian shirt, made me realize that I'd reached a goal.
I was a part of the L.A. professional boxing scene. A small part, but I was fighting a Harry Kabakoff fighter on TV from the Olympic.
I remember those exact thoughts from that night in summer, 1970.

I'd grown up watching Harry with his best fighter, the great Jesus "Little Poison" Pimentel.
I wanted to be one of the guys I saw fight at the Olympic.
Pimentel was my favorite bantam in the 60's, right up to Olivares.

In 1967, I recall Pimentel fighting Canadian Jackie Burke st the Olympic.
As part of the pre-fight publicity, I remember the Heral-Examiner posting a photo of Kabakoff & Pimentel in the Olympic ring, wearing Batman & Robin costumes.
They were truly a "Dynamic Duo".

Ringside TV announcer, Jim Healy, would refer to Kabakoff as "Hula Harry."

Harry is one of the last of the legends of my era in L.A. boxing.
I remember him so well. Gone with Harry is a wealth of boxing history.


-Rick Farris

Frank . . . Frankie Jr. made his main event debut against a heavily favored Harry Kabakoff fighter, Chango Cruz.
Frankie scored a big upset that night.

And he did it like a seasoned pro.

kikibalt wrote:Harry Kabakoff, born Melville Himmelfarb and know as the "Mad Russian" has died.

Kabakoff's best known fighter was Jesus Pimentel who fought Ruben Olivares for the bantamweight title, losing by ko, he also managed other lesser known fighters, who he kept busy fighting at the fame Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, Ca.

Rest in peace