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punchoutsb wrote:
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p4p1 wrote: No it's not. That's not how it works in the UFC.
Yes it does,i watched an interview with dana white and those were his words,he said he is ruled by the commission not the other way round so if the commission says DC made weight then he made weight he also said if DC didnt make weight its a title fight only for rumble but not for DC and the same if rumble didnt make weight
That's not the precedent set. I'm wracking my brain for the fight but I can't remember who it was but the title holder did not make weight and the fight became a non-title bout. Worthless post I know since I can't remember who it was, but that has been the way the UFC has done it in the past.

On a different note, DC looked terrible at the weigh in. I'm predicting it now, Rumble knocks him cold early in the second round :bag:
I sure I remember that as well and it was stupid, I have no idea who it was though. It sounds like the rules have changed thankfully though.
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p4p1 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
thechump wrote: Yes it does,i watched an interview with dana white and those were his words,he said he is ruled by the commission not the other way round so if the commission says DC made weight then he made weight he also said if DC didnt make weight its a title fight only for rumble but not for DC and the same if rumble didnt make weight
That's not the precedent set. I'm wracking my brain for the fight but I can't remember who it was but the title holder did not make weight and the fight became a non-title bout. Worthless post I know since I can't remember who it was, but that has been the way the UFC has done it in the past.

On a different note, DC looked terrible at the weigh in. I'm predicting it now, Rumble knocks him cold early in the second round :bag:
I sure I remember that as well and it was stupid, I have no idea who it was though. It sounds like the rules have changed thankfully though.
Now that I've had time to think it was Filho-Sonnen, but that was back in the WEC days.
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Blachowicz and Cummins is a fun fight!! Lots of heart being shown in there, I don't know how Pat survived the first.
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punchoutsb wrote:
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p4p1 wrote: No it's not. That's not how it works in the UFC.
Yes it does,i watched an interview with dana white and those were his words,he said he is ruled by the commission not the other way round so if the commission says DC made weight then he made weight he also said if DC didnt make weight its a title fight only for rumble but not for DC and the same if rumble didnt make weight
That's not the precedent set. I'm wracking my brain for the fight but I can't remember who it was but the title holder did not make weight and the fight became a non-title bout. Worthless post I know since I can't remember who it was, but that has been the way the UFC has done it in the past.

On a different note, DC looked terrible at the weigh in. I'm predicting it now, Rumble knocks him cold early in the second round :bag:
DC is so good, so so good. Not very fun to watch, but the man deserves way more respect than he gets. I don't think I will ever pick against him again :clap:
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punchoutsb wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
thechump wrote: Yes it does,i watched an interview with dana white and those were his words,he said he is ruled by the commission not the other way round so if the commission says DC made weight then he made weight he also said if DC didnt make weight its a title fight only for rumble but not for DC and the same if rumble didnt make weight
That's not the precedent set. I'm wracking my brain for the fight but I can't remember who it was but the title holder did not make weight and the fight became a non-title bout. Worthless post I know since I can't remember who it was, but that has been the way the UFC has done it in the past.

On a different note, DC looked terrible at the weigh in. I'm predicting it now, Rumble knocks him cold early in the second round :bag:
DC is so good, so so good. Not very fun to watch, but the man deserves way more respect than he gets. I don't think I will ever pick against him again :clap:

Honestly it looks like he is doing nothing but he had rumble gassed and weak just with the basic stand up wrestling. Johnson is no novice in Greco but just nowhere near DC. He gave up rather meekly.
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Rumble must have eaten a retard sandwich before coming out to fight. What the hell was he thinking grappling with DC?
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p4p1 wrote:I'll be cheering for Rumble as well.

That weigh in seems dodgy as eff though. DC weighs 206.2 comes back a couple of mins later and weighs 205 on the dot. Rumble weighs exactly 203.8, I think it's possible they calibrated the scales to be 1.2lbs lighter. I mean had Rumble ever actually come in underweight?
May have dropped a deuce and came back and weighed in correctly?
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Wow, Weidman vs Mousasi was a fornicate up. It would appear to me Chris played up how hurt he was when he thought the knees were illegal and paid the price when they found the knees were legal. Once the ref realised they were legal knees I don't know why he told Chris he still had time though after that.
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p4p1 wrote:Wow, Weidman vs Mousasi was a eff up. It would appear to me Chris played up how hurt he was when he thought the knees were illegal and paid the price when they found the knees were legal. Once the ref realised they were legal knees I don't know why he told Chris he still had time though after that.
I think the doctors were involved by that point. It was ref that prompted the stop of action, not Chris. Chris just tried to take advantage of the situation, which pretty much anyone else would have done in his position. He was getting lit up at that point anyhow and feel Chris was on his way to losing. Sucks how it played out.
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Impractical Poster wrote:
p4p1 wrote:Wow, Weidman vs Mousasi was a eff up. It would appear to me Chris played up how hurt he was when he thought the knees were illegal and paid the price when they found the knees were legal. Once the ref realised they were legal knees I don't know why he told Chris he still had time though after that.
I think the doctors were involved by that point. It was ref that prompted the stop of action, not Chris. Chris just tried to take advantage of the situation, which pretty much anyone else would have done in his position. He was getting lit up at that point anyhow and feel Chris was on his way to losing. Sucks how it played out.
I agree Chris definitely tried to take an advantage that wasn't there. But once the doctors are in there you can't go from I'm seriously hurt to nah I'm fine guys nothing's wrong. The doctors if nothing else have to protect themselves after a fighter has told them they're not good.

Those knees were likely going to be fight ending anyway, a third one was coming.
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p4p1 wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:
p4p1 wrote:Wow, Weidman vs Mousasi was a eff up. It would appear to me Chris played up how hurt he was when he thought the knees were illegal and paid the price when they found the knees were legal. Once the ref realised they were legal knees I don't know why he told Chris he still had time though after that.
I think the doctors were involved by that point. It was ref that prompted the stop of action, not Chris. Chris just tried to take advantage of the situation, which pretty much anyone else would have done in his position. He was getting lit up at that point anyhow and feel Chris was on his way to losing. Sucks how it played out.
I agree Chris definitely tried to take an advantage that wasn't there. But once the doctors are in there you can't go from I'm seriously hurt to nah I'm fine guys nothing's wrong. The doctors if nothing else have to protect themselves after a fighter has told them they're not good.

Those knees were likely going to be fight ending anyway, a third one was coming.
Yeah. I think Chris' confidence has taken a hit. He doesn't look quite like the destroyer he used to be. But, he has been facing some monsters, so who knows.
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It's so hard to know really. Yes he's on a three fight slide but I thought he was beating cockhold until he decided to throw spinning shit, he looked good until Romero remembered he was a wrestler in the second and kneed his head into the stands in the third. He won the first against Mousasi and looked pretty good.

He's always had cardio issues but it seems a little bit worse since USADA so who fornicating knows how good of a win it actually is. I've seen some people saying(hoping?) that it could be overturned for an NC but I think that's highly unlikely when a doctor rules you unfit to continue after a legal technique
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Rumours are floating around that Belfort will replace Gastelum at 212.
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ROBERT fornicating WHITTAKER!!!!!!!!!
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LOVED seeing Rose get that win. I can't believe how many people thought Waterson was going to have an easy time. I was going Rose all the way. One of the few WMMA fighters I like, though I can't see her having much success against my favorite (JJ).

Whittaker did his thing, that surprised me a lot. No more need to worry about that title shot for Jacare.
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I thank I have picked against Whitaker every time I have seen him fight. He continues to surprise me. Especially last night. Perfect game plan. ANd given who he had in front of him, performance of the night. I would have liked to had seen it go on a tad longer, but the stoppage looked inevitable anyhow. I've never seen Jacare worked over like that.

Bisping/Whitaker would be a great match-up given their styles. However, we will probably get Whitaker vs Romero or Rockhold next. Can't really complain about either of those match-ups though.
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Whittaker made Jacare look like a novice, what an ass whupping.

Mighty mouse is an incredible fighter, I couldn't help thinking, he's one of the few who could probably transition to boxing, he has great footwork, timing and mastery of distance, so hard to hit him clean, if at all. His opponent didn't have the skills to do anything at all.
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The rumour is that McGregor vs Woodley is happening at 213. Kudos to McGregor for stepping up I guess but Woodley is going to thrash him.
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p4p1 wrote:The rumour is that McGregor vs Woodley is happening at 213. Kudos to McGregor for stepping up I guess but Woodley is going to thrash him.
Think Helwani said it's not happening but...

McGregor has got such a fighting heart and mentality. He's a warrior. He would light Woodley up on the feet but is too small to take him on elsewhere and Woodley knows it.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:Whittaker made Jacare look like a novice, what an ass whupping.

Mighty mouse is an incredible fighter, I couldn't help thinking, he's one of the few who could probably transition to boxing, he has great footwork, timing and mastery of distance, so hard to hit him clean, if at all. His opponent didn't have the skills to do anything at all.

He made Reis, an excellent fighter, look bad.
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punchoutsb wrote:
p4p1 wrote:The rumour is that McGregor vs Woodley is happening at 213. Kudos to McGregor for stepping up I guess but Woodley is going to thrash him.
Think Helwani said it's not happening but...

McGregor has got such a fighting heart and mentality. He's a warrior. He would light Woodley up on the feet but is too small to take him on elsewhere and Woodley knows it.
Light up Woodley on the feet like Lawler or Wonderboy did? Woodley would knock him out standing and rag doll him if he decided to wrestle. Which is fine Woodley is a good 15-20 lbs bigger than him but let's not pretend that Conor's striking is something nobody especially not a bigger, faster and stronger guy can't overcome. It wasn't long ago that Nate Diaz outstruck him before choking him out. Woodley would also knock Nate out standing.
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p4p1 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
p4p1 wrote:The rumour is that McGregor vs Woodley is happening at 213. Kudos to McGregor for stepping up I guess but Woodley is going to thrash him.
Think Helwani said it's not happening but...

McGregor has got such a fighting heart and mentality. He's a warrior. He would light Woodley up on the feet but is too small to take him on elsewhere and Woodley knows it.
Light up Woodley on the feet like Lawler or Wonderboy did? Woodley would knock him out standing and rag doll him if he decided to wrestle. Which is fine Woodley is a good 15-20 lbs bigger than him but let's not pretend that Conor's striking is something nobody especially not a bigger, faster and stronger guy can't overcome. It wasn't long ago that Nate Diaz outstruck him before choking him out. Woodley would also knock Nate out standing.
Now Woodley is a knockout artist? He's only got 6 stoppages in his career, he's a wrestler with one big punch in him. I'd make him a big favorite over Conor because he's so much bigger and stronger but he'd best take Conor down or he's in the one place he's not the big fish in. He doesn't knock Nate out either.
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Woodley/McGregor would be good. I feel Woodley would wrestle fornicate him to death though. I initially thought that it would be a total mismatch. But, I'm not so sure now.
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punchoutsb wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Think Helwani said it's not happening but...

McGregor has got such a fighting heart and mentality. He's a warrior. He would light Woodley up on the feet but is too small to take him on elsewhere and Woodley knows it.
Light up Woodley on the feet like Lawler or Wonderboy did? Woodley would knock him out standing and rag doll him if he decided to wrestle. Which is fine Woodley is a good 15-20 lbs bigger than him but let's not pretend that Conor's striking is something nobody especially not a bigger, faster and stronger guy can't overcome. It wasn't long ago that Nate Diaz outstruck him before choking him out. Woodley would also knock Nate out standing.
Now Woodley is a knockout artist? He's only got 6 stoppages in his career, he's a wrestler with one big punch in him. I'd make him a big favorite over Conor because he's so much bigger and stronger but he'd best take Conor down or he's in the one place he's not the big fish in. He doesn't knock Nate out either.
Just like he wouldn't knock Lawler out? Just like he wouldn't knock Wonderboy senseless twice? I don't like the guy but his right hand is every bit as good and one dimensional as Conor's left hand. He would knock Nate fornicating Senseless, Nate is barely if at all a top 5 LW and has become even more overrated that he was before since his two fights against McGregor.
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p4p1 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
p4p1 wrote: Light up Woodley on the feet like Lawler or Wonderboy did? Woodley would knock him out standing and rag doll him if he decided to wrestle. Which is fine Woodley is a good 15-20 lbs bigger than him but let's not pretend that Conor's striking is something nobody especially not a bigger, faster and stronger guy can't overcome. It wasn't long ago that Nate Diaz outstruck him before choking him out. Woodley would also knock Nate out standing.
Now Woodley is a knockout artist? He's only got 6 stoppages in his career, he's a wrestler with one big punch in him. I'd make him a big favorite over Conor because he's so much bigger and stronger but he'd best take Conor down or he's in the one place he's not the big fish in. He doesn't knock Nate out either.
Just like he wouldn't knock Lawler out? Just like he wouldn't knock Wonderboy senseless twice? I don't like the guy but his right hand is every bit as good and one dimensional as Conor's left hand. He would knock Nate effing Senseless, Nate is barely if at all a top 5 LW and has become even more overrated that he was before since his two fights against McGregor.
More like how he didn't knock out Wonderboy twice...or Gastelum, or Rory, or Ben Judd, or Nate...etc etc etc. He's got a good right hand, Hendo-lite. He's not near as good a striker as you're making him out to be.
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