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Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 05:31
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:thank you. opponent rank points accumulated by the top 10? top 15? top 30 ??? to the attention of the rating of which is taken at the time of the match or at the end of the year ???
top20 at time of bout

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 09:57
by computerrank
There was a problem with opponents inactive longer than 12 months ... thanks a lot - :clap:

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Heavyweight          1999   176    32     8     0    25   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2000   405   111    41    13    57   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2001   431   147    74    13    60   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2002   467   194   107    21    65   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2003   303   202   115    21    65   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2005   313   230   130    35    65   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2006   543   373   196   101    76   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2007   612   460   262   108    90   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2008   720   548   328   119   101   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2009   872   701   394   185   122   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2010   793   787   460   193   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2011   855   886   526   226   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2012   690   924   559   231   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2013   720  1023   625   264   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2014   807  1155   691   330   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2015   590  1188   724   330   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko

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Cruiserweight        1985   240    42     9     0    34    499 Evander Holyfield
Cruiserweight        1986   672   235    75    66    94    499 Evander Holyfield
Cruiserweight        1987  1068   373   141    82   150    499 Evander Holyfield
Cruiserweight        1988  1073   461   207   104   150    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1989   793   499   240   109   150    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1990  1079   632   306   175   151    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1991  1089   709   372   185   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1992   562   749   405   192   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1993   706   881   471   258   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1994   509   913   493   267   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1995   310   921   501   267   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1996   518  1020   534   333   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1997   587  1066   567   347   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1998   517  1099   600   347   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          1999   411  1198   633   413   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          2000   386  1224   655   416   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          2001   298  1243   662   429   153    499 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight          2002   258  1268   670   446   153    499 Evander Holyfield

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 14:50
by mike1989
The Holyfield nothing has changed in the year 1999 opponent rank points accumulated he + 66 points this year he has a defeat and a draw against Lewis.???

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 14:53
by mike1989
Klitschko is nothing in the ratings has not changed: I don't see 2004 , opponent rank points accumulated also on these years remained unchanged including the year 2015 ???

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 14:56
by mike1989
You can reset the rating of Vitali Klitschko??? Thanks in advance ???? )

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 15:03
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:The Holyfield nothing has changed in the year 1999 opponent rank points accumulated he + 66 points this year he has a defeat and a draw against Lewis.???
This correct:

- he had a draw against #1 which is worth 66 points
- he was #2 in the annual ratings which is worth 33 points

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 15:22
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:Klitschko is nothing in the ratings has not changed: I don't see 2004 , opponent rank points accumulated also on these years remained unchanged including the year 2015 ???
Wladimir Klitscho's ratings have changed - by 12 points:

- 2007 +7 points
- 2012 +5 points

- 2015 Jennings wasn't in the top 20

- 2004 Klitschko wasn't in the top 10 - and no opponent, he could manage, was in the top 20.
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Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 15:27
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:You can reset the rating of Vitali Klitschko??? Thanks in advance ???? )

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Heavyweight          1998   175    31     7     0    25   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          1999   357    70    20     0    50   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2000   266    83    33     0    50   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2001   330    94    44     0    50   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2002   276   105    55     0    50   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2003   370   129    77     0    52   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2004   566   235   143    13    79   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2008   366   252   159    13    79   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2009   563   296   192    24    79   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2010   556   333   225    24    83   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2011   691   396   258    41    97   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2012   702   464   324    41    98   7033 Vitali Klitschko

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 15:35
by mike1989
for Holyfield all clear. thank you)

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 15:52
by mike1989
On Wladimir Klitschko:
2004 : DaVarryl Williamson at the time of fight with Klitschko had 219 points, and Annual Ratings for the year 2004 No. 15 Lamon Brewster had a rating of 219 points because at the time of fight DaVarryl Williamson was in the top 20 ???
2015: Annual Ratings for 2015 No. 15 Steve Cunningham were rated 199 points at the time of the fight Bryant Jennings had a rating of 190 points he was not at the time of the battle in the top 20 ??? For example now No. 20 Christian Hammer 146 points ????

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 15:54
by mike1989
But if Klitschko was not in the top 10 in 2004 but was in the top 20 of its annual points as well as to the overall rating ???

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 15:59
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:On Wladimir Klitschko:
2004 : DaVarryl Williamson at the time of fight with Klitschko had 219 points, and Annual Ratings for the year 2004 No. 15 Lamon Brewster had a rating of 219 points because at the time of fight DaVarryl Williamson was in the top 20 ???
2015: Annual Ratings for 2015 No. 15 Steve Cunningham were rated 199 points at the time of the fight Bryant Jennings had a rating of 190 points he was not at the time of the battle in the top 20 ??? For example now No. 20 Christian Hammer 146 points ????
Don't forget, please, as regards all time ratings points we are dealing with the combined cluster ratings - heavyweight and cruiserweight - here ... :D

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 16:11
by mike1989
Vitali Klitschko :
1999 opponent rank points accumulated Herbie Hide 263 of points on the moment of the battle brought no points ??
2003 Kirk Johnson 331 point at the time of the battle did not bring Vitaly points ???
2008 Samuel Peter 532 point at the time of the battle brought no points ???
2010 Albert Sosnowski 195 points at the time of the battle not prenes points ???
2012 Dereck Chisora 187 points at the time of the battle not prenes Klitschko points ???

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 16:29
by mike1989
according to coefficientof clusters :
Postby computerrank ยป 06 Jan 2016, 10:04
use these conversion factors

minimum to fly : 0.789
light fly to fly: 0.930
super fly to bantam: 0.950
super bantam to feather: 0.938
super feather to light: 0.927
super light to welter: 0.907
super welter to middle: 0.926
super middle to light heavy: 0.922
cruiser to heavy: 0.694
2004 cluster No. 1 at Cruiserweight Johnny Nelson had 288 points h in the translation 288*0,694=199,872 (200 points) deveril Williamson at the time of fight with Klitschko 219 points???
2015 cluster No. 1 at Cruiserweight Grigory Drozd had 301 points in translation 301*0,694=208,894 (209 points) and Denis Lebedev No. 2 Cruiserweight had 279 pontow in translation 279*0,694=193,626 (194 points) Bryant Jennings at the time of the fight with Klitschko was 190 points ???

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 16:43
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:But if Klitschko was not in the top 10 in 2004 but was in the top 20 of its annual points as well as to the overall rating ???
may be he was in the annual top 20 of 2004 - but only the top 10 get points for the years end standings

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 16:53
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:On Wladimir Klitschko:
2004 : DaVarryl Williamson at the time of fight with Klitschko had 219 points, and Annual Ratings for the year 2004 No. 15 Lamon Brewster had a rating of 219 points because at the time of fight DaVarryl Williamson was in the top 20 ???
2015: Annual Ratings for 2015 No. 15 Steve Cunningham were rated 199 points at the time of the fight Bryant Jennings had a rating of 190 points he was not at the time of the battle in the top 20 ??? For example now No. 20 Christian Hammer 146 points ????
Bingo - found the next bug - :clap:

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M 2004-10-02 Heavyweight W TD 7035 Wladimir Klitschko 0 184 Heavyweight 15784 DaVarryl Williamson 17 220 Heavyweight
Wladimir was not in the top 20 before this bout - but Williamson was #17 - and I excluded both for that ... :witzend:

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 17:39
by mike1989
what is a bug??? ))) this means that Vladimir Klitschko will update the rating??? see more of Bryant Jennings most likely he was also in the top 20 ???

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 17:46
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:what is a bug??? ))) this means that Vladimir Klitschko will update the rating??? see more of Bryant Jennings most likely he was also in the top 20 ???
A bug is an error in my rating program ... :witzend:

I will first correct the program tomorrow and publish here the new results ... then we will go on, or? :TU:

Great, mike1989, thanks a lot so far ...

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 17:56
by mike1989
computerrank wrote:
mike1989 wrote:what is a bug??? ))) this means that Vladimir Klitschko will update the rating??? see more of Bryant Jennings most likely he was also in the top 20 ???
A bug is an error in my rating program ... :witzend:

I will first correct the program tomorrow and publish here the new results ... then we will go on, or? :TU:

Great, mike1989, thanks a lot so far ...
thank you! )... look for another Bryant of Jennings )))... and relying Vitali Klitschko there's a lot of issues I wrote to you above. Good night to you or what you have now because I have 1:00 )))

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 08:15
by computerrank
This is Wladimir Klitschko now - he got another 4 opponent points for #17 Williamson in 2004. Jennings 2015 not in the top 20.

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Heavyweight          1999   176    32     8     0    25   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2000   405   111    41    13    57   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2001   431   147    74    13    60   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2002   467   194   107    21    65   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2003   303   202   115    21    65   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2005   313   234   130    39    65   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2006   543   377   196   105    76   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2007   612   464   262   112    90   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2008   720   552   328   123   101   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2009   872   705   394   189   122   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2010   793   791   460   197   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2011   855   890   526   230   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2012   690   928   559   235   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2013   720  1027   625   268   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2014   807  1159   691   334   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight          2015   590  1192   724   334   133   7035 Wladimir Klitschko

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 08:26
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:Vitali Klitschko :
1999 opponent rank points accumulated Herbie Hide 263 of points on the moment of the battle brought no points ??
2003 Kirk Johnson 331 point at the time of the battle did not bring Vitaly points ???
2008 Samuel Peter 532 point at the time of the battle brought no points ???
2010 Albert Sosnowski 195 points at the time of the battle not prenes points ???
2012 Dereck Chisora 187 points at the time of the battle not prenes Klitschko points ???
I guess Vitali is ok now too - plus 83 points - Sosnowski and Chisora were not in the top 20: :TU:

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Heavyweight          1998   175    31     7     0    25   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          1999   357    78    20     8    50   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2000   266    91    33     8    50   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2001   330   102    44     8    50   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2002   276   113    55     8    50   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2003   370   147    77    18    52   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2004   566   253   143    31    79   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2008   366   336   159    97    79   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2009   563   380   192   108    79   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2010   556   416   225   108    83   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2011   691   480   258   124    97   7033 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight          2012   702   547   324   124    98   7033 Vitali Klitschko

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 09:27
by mike1989
all right, when you update the rankings of all-time ???

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 12:11
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:all right, when you update the rankings of all-time ???
I will first have a look into some other issues. As soon as the corrected version is completed and launched, I will post a message here ... thanks a lot :TU:

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 17:41
by Leonid
I see HWs took a hit in their absolute current rating points, which made it worse for them in the p4p ratings. But the numbers were already very low if we take a look at the past.

Does this influence the all time rankings in the part of 14% of career top rating? I never got how this all-time works, ie. #1 boxer beat #2 in the year and got additional (200/1)*33% + (200/2)*33% for the year? It means 99 points maximum for the year? I remember maximum of 200 points per year mentioned by Computerrank. How is that?
And if 14% of career top rating means 14% * highest number of active rating point, then Marchiano gets 14%* 5705 = 800 points just for that, plus 500 for his entire carreer (5 years at the top * 99 maximum per year). And Wlad gets more like 1000 for his carrear plus only 133 for 14% of 953 (carreer top) to arrive at lower than Rocky in total?

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 02:06
by mike1989
Wladimir Klitschko in 2012 in annual not rank No. 2 and No. 1 the downgrade it happened 13.01.02. not 12.12.31. from 11.07.02. 1 year 6 months after the fight with David Hay