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Expug wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Chicago's Aragon Ballroom . . .

Pug & Dan, we had an Aragon Ballroom in Southern Cal, as well. It was located on Lick Pier in Venice Beach.
During the 30's and 40's, it was a place where the Big Bands played, Harry James, Tommy Dorsey, etc.
For awhile in the 50's, the Lawrence Welk TV show was broadcast live from Aragon on Sunday nights (history from my grandfather).
It was next to the old Ocean Park amusement park, just a couple blocks from the old Ocean Park Arena (now a bowling alley across from the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium on Pico.)

In the late 60's, Pacific Ocean Park was closed, and lick pier as well. The old ballroom sat vacant and decaying until the early 70's, when it was demolished.

The Aragon Ballroom was before my time, but for some reason I can see it as it was. I can hear the music, see the building in my mind.
Maybe I was there in a past life. I know I'm a little crazy (maybe a lot crazy) but I feel I was there long before I could have been.
I feel this way in downtown L.A. I know the Olympic as it was long before I was born, The Hollywood LEgion, and more so, the film studios.
If past life experiences are real (?) I know I was here before.

Frank, did you ever experience Venice's Aragon Ballroom? Hap Navarro?


-Rick Farris

The good old Aragon Ball Room. We used to call it the Aragon Brawlroom. The one here in Chicago.
Originaly it was a dance hall I guess. Then in the seventies it was used for boxing cards. Ernie Terrel put on a lot of shows there when he was a promoter.
It was located in Chicagos Uptown neighborhood.
Uptown was a funny and sometimes dangerous area.Hard to describe as it was sort of a melting pot. Had alot of halfway houses for drug rehabilatation.
Gangs,prostitution, etc.
The place didnt have seats if I recall.Chairs were set up for the fights. I seem to remember hearing that once in awhile, a chair would find its way airborne.
Its boarded up now.

Brian, when you mentioned the chair being flung into the ring, I immediately thought of the Rocky DiFazio-Jimmy Carter fight held here around '74. I had to look up the venue, but it was held up in Niles. Still, it was all over the papers and the news when it happened (I miss the days when boxing was publicized). I saw the replay, DiFazio was being hyped and Carter, a clubfighter with no relation to the great lightweight champ to my knowledge, was brought in
as fodder. But Carter tore into Rocky and dropped him in the 1st round, but was so keyed up he got down on his knees and began pounding Rocky while on the canvas. Before the ref pulled him off someone tossed a chair at him. Rocky refused to take a DQ and requested resumption of the fight, but Carter claimed an injured neck and could not continue, so lost on the DQ anyway. I recall him appearing on the news being interviewed by Brent Musburger, who was local at the time, and stating since DiFazio wanted to continue, the DQ had to be for getting hit with the chair. LOL! Incidentally, I too thought the boxing cards at the Aragon began with the Terrell promotion days, but apparently they must have sporadically been going on for some time. I know Hurricane Carter fought Skeeter McClure there in the '60s, but don't know of any more.

Scartissue

kikibalt wrote:Bobby Baltazar vs Anthony Chavez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1p76vdNN2o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm3oAkMy_ig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfiFzEojgWk

I just finished watching Bobby's fight with Chavez. Bobby looked like a seasoned pro. He never lost his cool but Chavez did give him a rough time in the 3rd but Bobby handled it well. Lots of potential there. Speaking of Jimmy Montoya, he sure got around back then. I see he worked Bobby's corner that night.

There was an old commercial in the video from Urich Motors, the old Lincoln/Mercury dealer in Whittier, remember them. I bought an used Nissan Stanza for Jeri back in the 80's. There's an Albertsons market there now.

Thanks for posting the video
Randy

Good to see the thread back to it's normal format.

Randyman wrote:Good to see the thread back to it's normal format.

I'm glad too. It's like the thread passed thru the "Twilight Zone."

I almost forgot! Happy New Year!
All the best to all of you and your families in 2010. (and beyond)



Randy

Rick Farris wrote:

Randyman wrote:Good to see the thread back to it's normal format.

I'm glad too. It's like the thread passed thru the "Twilight Zone."

Methinks they were paying attention to our moans and groans!

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Bobby Baltazar vs Anthony Chavez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1p76vdNN2o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm3oAkMy_ig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfiFzEojgWk

I just finished watching Bobby's fight with Chavez. Bobby looked like a seasoned pro. He never lost his cool but Chavez did give him a rough time in the 3rd but Bobby handled it well. Lots of potential there. Speaking of Jimmy Montoya, he sure got around back then. I see he worked Bobby's corner that night.

There was an old commercial in the video from Urich Motors, the old Lincoln/Mercury dealer in Whittier, remember them. I bought an used Nissan Stanza for Jeri back in the 80's. There's an Albertsons market there now.

Thanks for posting the video
Randy

Randy...Bobby was not in shape for that fight, he had been off 2-3 yrears, trained for about 3 weeks for the fight, I told him he wasn't ready, but he wanted to fight, Jimmy and I got him that spot on the card, he ran out of gas after the second round, the knock downs won him the fight. I used Jimmy alot back then to help with the training and working the corner, Jimmy is a nice guy imo.

Urich Motors...I work at Urich Motors (Paint Shop) in 1956-1957, in late '57 I left Urich's to go work at the Ford store in Whittier, "Frank Dore Ford", next door was the Chevy store, at the time highly rated lightweight contender Cisco Andrade was working as a sale man at the Chevy store.

Kikibalt were you originally from California and when did you move to Arizona

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Kikibalt were you originally from California and when did you move to Arizona

Hammer...I'm originally from SoCal. and still live in SoCal. never have lived in Arizona, Tony The Tiger and Bobby lives in Arizona, Tony move to AZ. when he married an AZ. girl. I think that was in 1989, in the mid-'90s Bobby and his wife Kathy went to visit Tony and Kathy fell in love with the area where Tony lived, she told Bobby that she wanted to move to AZ. next thing they did was buy some land and had a house built and they moved circa 1996.

Ok thx kiki did you train fighters other than your sons and if so who were the most notable you trained

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Ok thx kiki did you train fighters other than your sons and if so who were the most notable you trained

In the pro's, the only fighters I trained and manage were my sons, I did worked corners for other fighters and did some bookie of fighters for other managers.
In the 1960s when I ran the Jr GGs I had lots of kids that I was training, in 1973-74 I was the head coach for the L.A. GG National team, in the late '70s-early '80s I did the amateur match-makeing for the Olympic Auditorium, at that time the Olympic would have 2-3 amateur fights before the pro card would start. did some other stuff that I have fogotten in my old age.

kikibalt wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Ok thx kiki did you train fighters other than your sons and if so who were the most notable you trained

In the pro's, the only fighters I trained and manage were my sons, I did worked corners for other fighters and did some bookie of fighters for other managers.
In the 1960s when I ran the Jr GGs I had lots of kids that I was training, in 1973-74 I was the head coach for the L.A. GG National team, in the late '70s-early '80s I did the amateur match-makeing for the Olympic Auditorium, at that time the Olympic would have 2-3 amateur fights before the pro card would start. did some other stuff that I have fogotten in my old age.

Hammer . . . Frank also worked the corner of Armando Muniz, I believe it was the night Mando whipped Indian Red Lopez.
Muniz is the current president of the World Boxing Hall of Fame and I am the WBHOF director/historian. This past October, we had the honor of presenting Mr. Baltazar with the first annual WBHOF "Johnny Flores Award" for his contribution to boxing. In 2007, Frank was inducted into the California Boxing Hall of Fame. Frank won't toot his own horn, but he is a California boxing legend in his own right (and today the Vice President of the CBHOF). Frank is an important figure in the Southern California boxing commuity, a man who has helped the careers of dozens of world class boxers and world champions.


-Rick Farris

Hammer . . .

This link will take you to a story I wrote about Frank Baltazar a couple of years ago.
You might enjoy it.

http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2008/02 ... -rick.html


-Rick Farris

"A man still is what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest . . ."

-Simon & Garfunkle (The Boxer)

My team the Ducks are not doing too good as of now...

Randyman wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

Randyman wrote:Good to see the thread back to it's normal format.

I'm glad too. It's like the thread passed thru the "Twilight Zone."

Methinks they were paying attention to our moans and groans!

Whoever Boxrec has watching over this thread has done a great job from the beginning.

Ramon Fuentes . . .

Frank, I know that Ramon Fuentes passed away this year. He fought the greatest welterweights of his era and I know you saw him fight. I know that in 1953, he whipped Art Aragon at the Olympic. The following year he defeats Billy Graham in the same ring. His record reveals not only a lot of great names, but also victories over many.

Did you see the Aragon and Graham fights? Is there one fight in Fuentes career that stands out in your memory?
I'm happy that Fuentes is a California Boxing Hall of Famer. The family is one of the best in boxing.


-Rick Farris
_______________________________________________

Ramon Fuentes


birth date 1925-11-20
death date 2009-07-29
welterweight
alias Chuck Moody Los Angeles, California, United States
won 41 (KO 12) + lost 16 (KO 3) + drawn 1 = 58
rounds boxed 486 KO% 20.69



1958-07-31 155 Jimmy Martinez 154 93-31-11
Civic Auditorium, Albuquerque, New Mexico, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Marshall Leach 98-99 | judge: Willis Barnes 94-96 | judge: Harry Bremer 95-97 ~

1958-05-20 154¾ Tony Dupas 157 28-6-0
Municipal Auditorium, New Orleans, Louisiana, United States L PTS 10 10
1958-05-06 154 Phil Moyer 158 6-0-0
Auditorium, Portland, Oregon, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Ralph Gruman 52-58 | judge: Andy Crabtree 51½-58½ | judge: Mike Smith 54-56 ~

1958-04-07 145¾ Ralph Dupas 142 69-8-6
New Orleans, Louisiana, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Kenny Snow 1-7 | judge: Eddie Wolfe 1-9 | judge: Lucien Joubert 1-8 ~

1957-11-04 156¾ Joe Miceli 150 54-30-7
Civic Auditorium, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L SD 10 10
1957-09-02 152¾ Stan Harrington 151 21-2-1
Civic Auditorium, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States W UD 10 10
1957-07-15 161¼ Billy Hester 161 14-2-1
Sydney Stadium, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia L TKO 9 12
~ referee: Vic Patrick ~
Cut eye stoppage.

1957-06-28 160 Luigi Coluzzi 156½ 30-13-2
West Melbourne Stadium, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia W PTS 12 12
~ referee: Terry Reilly ~

1957-03-11 151¾ Del Flanagan 149 82-13-2
Auditorium, Saint Paul, Minnesota, United States L UD 10 10
According to the United Press, Flanagan won by 16, 15, and 13 points on the official scorecards, as he won every round.

1956-12-20 153½ Kid Gavilan 152 105-23-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10
~ referee: Tommy Hart 96-95 | judge: Frankie Van 96-95 | judge: Mushy Callahan 92-98 ~

1956-09-10 152 Chico Vejar 153 65-7-2
Columbia Hall, Stamford, Connecticut, United States L PTS 10 10
~ referee: Billy Taylor ~

1956-07-24 154¼ Chico Vejar 154½ 65-6-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10
~ referee: Frankie Van 94-95 | judge: Lee Grossman 96-94 | judge: Jimmy Wilson 98-94 ~

1956-06-23 149¾ Duke Harris 148¾ 20-3-1
Keyworth Stadium, Hamtramck, Michigan, United States L UD 10 10
1956-05-28 157 Sonny Gill 159 23-5-1
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States W PTS 10 10
~ referee: Frank Rustich 97-93 ~

1956-03-22 153½ Mickey Savage 148 29-9-2
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States W KO 4 10
~ referee: Fred Apostoli ~

1956-02-10 147 Isaac Logart 146 40-5-5
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States L SD 10 10
~ referee: Ruby Goldstein 4-5 | judge: Bert Grant 4-6 | judge: Joe Vaccarella 6-5 ~

1955-11-24 150¾ Joe Miceli 149 47-22-7
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Jimmy Wilson 58½-51½ | judge: Russ Bradford 60-50 | judge: George Latka 59-51 ~

1955-10-06 154½ Joe Miceli 149 46-22-7
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Frankie Carter 51½-58½ | judge: Vern Bybee 50-60 | judge: Frankie Brown 49½-60 ~
Fuentes was down once in the 2nd round and twice in the 7th.

1955-08-09 149 Al Juergens 143 27-15-2
Municipal Auditorium, San Antonio, Texas, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Leonard Zuniga 100-88 | judge: Ralph Silverman 99-92 | judge: Art Dana 98-95 ~

1955-07-20 151 Hector Constance 147½ 24-5-8
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States W SD 10 10
~ referee: Al Berl 4-5 | judge: Joe Agnello 7-3 | judge: Frank Forbes 5-4 ~

1955-05-20 153¾ Gil Turner 154½ 49-7-0
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States D PTS 10 10
~ referee: Al Berl 4-5 | judge: Frank Forbes 5-5 | judge: Joe Agnello 7-3 ~

1955-03-19 George Barnes 30-7-2
White City Tennis Courts, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia W PTS 12 12
~ referee: Bill Henneberry ~

1955-01-28 153 Georgie Johnson 154 28-6-0
Convention Hall, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States L SD 10 10
Fuentes was knocked down in the 10th

1954-12-02 149½ Johnny Saxton 148 45-2-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Frankie Van 51½-58½ | judge: Tommy Hart 54-56 | judge: Charley Randolph 54-56 ~

1954-10-21 150 Billy Graham 150 102-12-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Frankie Van 60½-49½ | judge: Mushy Callahan 60½-49½ | judge: Charley Randolph 60-50 ~

1954-10-05 147 Ernie Greer 147 23-18-10
Memorial Auditorium, Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 12 12
~ USA California State welterweight title ~

1954-07-12 147 Carmine Fiore 146¾ 47-15-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Frankie Van 59-51 | judge: Tommy Hart 60½-49½ | judge: Dynamite Jackson 61-49 ~

1954-05-04 147 Frankie Fernandez 146 28-4-1
Honolulu Stadium, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States W PTS 10 10
1954-04-19 154¼ Jimmy Martinez 153 57-12-6
Auditorium, Saint Paul, Minnesota, United States W UD 10 10
1954-03-02 147 Art Soto 147 37-18-3
Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 12 12
~ USA California State welterweight title ~

1953-12-01 146½ Mario Trigo 141½ 61-39-10
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 8 12
~ time: 2:46 | referee: Reggie Gilmore 44-33 ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~
Trigo was knocked down once in the 2nd and 8th round.

1953-11-06 149 Danny Womber 149 43-21-11
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Abe Roth 58-52 | judge: Joe Stone 58-52 | judge: Charley Randolph 57-53 ~

1953-10-02 147 Art Aragon 145¼ 58-13-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 58-52 | judge: Reggie Gilmore 56-54 | judge: Joe Stone 56½-53½ ~
Fuentes California State Welterweight would have been won by Aragon had he scored a kayo, it was otherwise not on the line, because the bout was not scheduled for 12 rounds.

1953-08-12 151 Gil Turner 150¾ 39-3-0
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States L KO 5 10
~ time: 2:49 | referee: Ruby Goldstein ~

1953-07-15 148¾ Kid Gavilan 152¼ 92-13-4
Arena, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Dauber Jaeger ~
Scoring: 8-3, 6-3, 8-4; Attendance: 4,000
Fuentes down in the 7th for a count of "nine"

1953-05-08 147 Al Wilson 146¾ 22-10-2
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Petey Scalzo 5-4 | judge: Arthur Schwartz 5-3 | judge: Young Otto 7-3 ~

1953-03-17 146 Freddie Herman 143 39-29-5
Sacramento, California, United States W TKO 5 12
~ referee: John Bassinelli ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~

1952-12-30 147¼ Clifton Lester 154 33-22-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 8 10
~ referee: Mushy Callahan 39½-37½ ~
Fuentes was knocked down in the 3rd round.

1952-10-28 148 John LaBroi 149½ 26-11-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 7 10
~ time: 1:23 | referee: Abe Roth ~
LaBroi was knocked down twice in the 6th round, and once in the 7th round.

1952-09-30 146 John LaBroi 153 26-10-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W RTD 7 10
~ referee: Abe Roth ~
LaBroi did not come out for the 8th round.

1952-09-02 145 Gerald LaBroi 144 20-12-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 6 12
~ time: 2:46 | referee: Frankie Van ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~
LaBroi was knocked down once in the 5th, and twice in the 6th round.

1952-07-29 147 Mario Trigo 142 57-33-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 12 12
~ referee: Frankie Van 68½-61½ | judge: Dynamite Jackson 70½-59½ | judge: Reggie Gilmore 68½-61½ ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~

1952-07-01 148¾ Woody Harper 149 6-14-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 5 10
~ time: 2:31 | referee: Mushy Callahan 25-19 ~

1952-05-20 146 Bobby Jones 147 31-16-7
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 12 12
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore 67-65 | judge: Tommy Hart 67½-64½ | judge: Jack McDonald 66½-65½ ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~

1952-04-03 145 Oscar Reyes 147¾ 19-5-5
Sports Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Sonny Valdez | judge: Packy McFarland AZ | judge: Joe Cadomo ~

1952-02-29 Charley Salas 111-35-11
Tucson Garden, Tucson, Arizona, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Mike Quihuis 55-53 | judge: Emil Kahn 54-53 | judge: C.B. Sedillo 56-54 ~
Reported in the Tucson Daily Citizen, as Salas's first ever loss in Tucson.

1951-11-06 145 Phil Burton 145½ 41-20-6
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 60-50 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 60½-49½ | judge: Reggie Gilmore 59-51 ~
Burton was knocked down for a no-count in the 10th round.

1951-07-31 147 Ernie Greer 143¼ 13-9-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 6 6
Greer was knocked down in the 3rd round for a two-count.

1951-06-05 151 Charley Green 158 9-10-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1951-03-27 151 Charley Green 157 6-9-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 3 4
1951-02-23 Mongo Luciano 20-6-5
Cow Palace, San Francisco, California, United States L KO 5 8
The Ring,May 1951

1951-02-06 146½ Charley Green 156 6-8-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 4
1951-01-23 146 Jimmy Hays 146 12-3-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1950-12-15 147 Ray Acosta 148 14-14-6
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1950-11-28 144½ Jimmy Hays 148 10-2-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1950-10-31 144½ Russ Gilliam 152 2-4-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1950-10-09 148 Flash Gordon 149 43-38-13
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W KO 2 4
1950-09-11 145½ Al Simmons 146 0-2-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W TKO 2 4

[quote="Rick Farris"]Ramon Fuentes . . .

Frank, I know that Ramon Fuentes passed away this year. He fought the greatest welterweights of his era and I know you saw him fight. I know that in 1953, he whipped Art Aragon at the Olympic. The following year he defeats Billy Graham in the same ring. His record reveals not only a lot of great names, but also victories over many.

Did you see the Aragon and Graham fights? Is there one fight in Fuentes career that stands out in your memory?
I'm happy that Fuentes is a California Boxing Hall of Famer. The family is one of the best in boxing.


-Rick Farris
_______________________________________________

Rick...I only seen the Aragon fight, Fuentes was one of those fighters that blew hot and cold and he was hot in the Aragon fight, plus he was to big for Aragon.

Did you know that Ramon had a brother that also fought main events at the Olympic, "Jess Fuentes" Jess didn't have as many fight as Ramon, nor was he as good.

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Ramon Fuentes . . .

Frank, I know that Ramon Fuentes passed away this year. He fought the greatest welterweights of his era and I know you saw him fight. I know that in 1953, he whipped Art Aragon at the Olympic. The following year he defeats Billy Graham in the same ring. His record reveals not only a lot of great names, but also victories over many.

Did you see the Aragon and Graham fights? Is there one fight in Fuentes career that stands out in your memory?
I'm happy that Fuentes is a California Boxing Hall of Famer. The family is one of the best in boxing.


-Rick Farris
_______________________________________________

Rick...I only seen the Aragon fight, Fuentes was one of those fighters that blew hot and cold and he was hot in the Aragon fight, plus he was to big for Aragon.

Did you know that Ramon had a brother that also fought main events at the Olympic, "Jess Fuentes" Jess didn't have as many fight as Ramon, nor was he as good.

Frank . . . Yes, I heard of Jess Fuentes. Thanks for the info on the Aragon fight & your insight on Ramon's career.

Complete Boxing Glove Collection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWrJIqUd ... re=related

kikibalt wrote:

Posted by Frank inthe early days of this thread.
I know this photo was taken at the Alexandria Hotel, L.A.

Today . . .

I had time to post a bit, however, I discovered something to be very interesting.
I started to re-read this thread from page one.
I'm going to begin to review, see what we did before, might help me from re-posting previous info.
I'm also finding a few things that I have forgotten, and a couple I missed, or mis-read previously.
Certain pictures that did not motivate a previous response, will do that today.
This thread is a massive piece of work.
I see that with time we have improved. It just gets better. Mucho mas to come!


-Rick Farris

Thank you Rick for directing me to the story you wrote about Kiki Baltazar,also I would like to see if someone could direct me to a list of all the names that are in the California boxing hall of fame.

In bed watching an old episode of "Have Gun Will Travel" on the Western Channel, and who do I see
playing an indian?, none other than 1950's L.A. heavyweight Abel Fernandez seen in the above photo
on the right fighting Freddie Beshore at the Olympic.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Thank you Rick for directing me to the story you wrote about Kiki Baltazar,also I would like to see if someone could direct me to a list of all the names that are in the California boxing hall of fame.

Here it is Hammer...it up to date