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Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

My wife in a prior life

What a great lady she is.

Thanks Rick
I think all of us here on thread have been blessed to have our wives in our corners.

dagosd2000 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

My wife in a prior life

What a great lady she is.

Thanks Rick
I think all of us here on thread have been blessed to have our wives in our corners.

Yep

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote: Frank
I remember Bonilla fighting at the Coliseum. Was a decent boy. Looks like Tony went right through him.The guy with the bucket seems impressed too.

The dude with the bucket has that look "What the hell happen here?" look on his face

The dude looks like a moron . Whats the big surprise? Did somebody not tell him Tony could bang?
It wasn't exactly a secret. Tony had only been a pro three months when Bonilla became his fourth consecutive knockout victim.

The fourth of many KO's to come. We got a lot of excitement from Tony Baltazar, his fights were fun for me to watch.
Tony was a fighter's fighter. You never knew when the end would come, that left hook stands out most in my mind.

was against
-Rick Farris

ive talked about Tony before here but I will again the first time I ever saw him fight Howard Davis and that big left hook was on display as he put Howard down couple of times only to be robbed of the decision I saw the Robin Blake fight which was a total war if I remember right Tony broke Robins eardrum via the left hook and then there was the Roger Mayweather fight and although I predicted that Tony would ko Roger the first time he landed his left hook I was wrong but I still won the bet I made on Tony as he won the decision.

THEHAMMER321 wrote: ive talked about Tony before here but I will again the first time I ever saw him fight Howard Davis and that big left hook was on display as he put Howard down couple of times only to be robbed of the decision I saw the Robin Blake fight which was a total war if I remember right Tony broke Robins eardrum via the left hook and then there was the Roger Mayweather fight and although I predicted that Tony would ko Roger the first time he landed his left hook I was wrong but I still won the bet I made on Tony as he won the decision.

You're right Hammer, the Blake fight was a war, and Blake did sufffer a broken eardrum

kikibalt wrote:Might have posted this pic already. not sure

Guys, notice that I'm wearing my GG jacket in that photo, that was
my 1974 national GG's coach's jacket, both my '73-'74 jackets are long gone

Britain’s David Haye makes the first defence of his WBA heavyweight title against mandatory challenger John Ruiz of Puerto Rico in Manchester on April 3.
Haye was tied to meeting Ruiz even before he wrested the title from Russian mammoth Nikolai Valuev on a close but deserved decision in Germany in November; the winner of Haye-Valuev had to face Ruiz, which, frankly, was and is a crime. Ruiz goes by the nickname of “The Quiet Man” and truer words were never shushed - the man is instantly forgettable, the last type of opponent the talented, swashbuckling Haye needs right now, on the cusp of one or two heavyweight superfights. Even the Klitsckho brothers, Vitali and Wladimir, arguably the busiest and best heavyweights in the world today know that Ruiz prospers by making others look bad, a real spoiler. They have never fought him; they have yet to fight Haye, although they will, the braver of the two first.
For now, the Londoner lowers himself against a man beaten twice by Valuev in sleep-inducing 12-rounders. This was before Haye proved that Valuev cannot even pillow-fight when he played with the giant for 12 rounds, despite conceding 11 inches in height (Haye is 6ft 3ins) and seven stone. He also damaged his right hand in the early rounds but used his jab to pick up the points and went for it in the last, the fight already won, and staggered Valuev with a left hook.
It was only Haye’s third fight at heavyweight and the former undisputed cruiserweight champion will surely improve, improve, improve. At 29 he has youth, fluidity, speed, power and good size and weight (215 pounds) - he looks like a heavyweight. More than all that, he’s refreshingly charismatic, refreshingly candid. He recently admitted that many boxing fans will always regard him as ‘chinny’ and lacking in stamina, after a few early career wobbles and one famous blow-up, but bears no ill-feeling to the fans or to the labels. This is the beaming David Haye for you, a man who knows when to switch off the trash-talk.
Ruiz lives without a smile on his face and secured his ‘iffy’ mandatory status because he moaned long and hard after his (second) close fight with Valuev in August 2008 in Berlin, where he dropped a split decision. It was one of those “Who cares?” fights, one of those “Who cares?” decisions, but Ruiz never let up until the No. 1 ranking was his. He recently inked a promotional deal with the powerful Oscar De La Hoya, which proves one thing and one thing only: Oscar has his eyes firmly on the self-promoted Haye. Our David is the heavyweight future, not the 38-year-old Ruiz.
Ideally, Haye would have made more of a statement against the plodding, robotic Valuev but there is plenty of time for that against the plodding, robotic Klitschkos, if not the awkward Ruiz. David says he wants to clean up the heavyweight division and needs to brush Ruiz aside as efficiently as he possibly can, trying to look good in the process and trying not to raise any doubts about his stamina. Only David Tua has ever spectacularly despatched Ruiz, back in 1996, but it remains Ruiz’s only ever stoppage defeat and he has learned how to survive, to hold, to frustrate, to infuriate. He counters well but only as part of his spoiler package. If he counters well, he clutches better.
Ultimately, Ruiz is another Joe “King” Roman, the overrated Puerto Rican who secured a shot at George Foreman for the world heavyweight title in Tokyo in 1972 and was smashed in two minutes flat. In a perfect world, hard-hitting Haye can do another Foreman.

John Ruiz, the "Stinker", No thanks!

Btw Hammer, you'll find the Blake fight on youtube

kikibalt wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote: ive talked about Tony before here but I will again the first time I ever saw him fight Howard Davis and that big left hook was on display as he put Howard down couple of times only to be robbed of the decision I saw the Robin Blake fight which was a total war if I remember right Tony broke Robins eardrum via the left hook and then there was the Roger Mayweather fight and although I predicted that Tony would ko Roger the first time he landed his left hook I was wrong but I still won the bet I made on Tony as he won the decision.

You're right Hammer, the Blake fight was a war, and Blake did sufffer a broken eardrum

Blake never looked as good again. What was the story with his pink shorts, Frank? Man, he had to be crazy wearing those!

bennie wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote: ive talked about Tony before here but I will again the first time I ever saw him fight Howard Davis and that big left hook was on display as he put Howard down couple of times only to be robbed of the decision I saw the Robin Blake fight which was a total war if I remember right Tony broke Robins eardrum via the left hook and then there was the Roger Mayweather fight and although I predicted that Tony would ko Roger the first time he landed his left hook I was wrong but I still won the bet I made on Tony as he won the decision.

You're right Hammer, the Blake fight was a war, and Blake did sufffer a broken eardrum

Blake never looked as good again. What was the story with his pink shorts, Frank? Man, he had to be crazy wearing those!

Bennie...You're right about Blake never looking good again, Did Tony ruin him? I think so....

The pink trunks?, don't know and I don't want to know....

His stablemate Gene Hatcher was also a good fighter, as was Stevie Cruz and, of course, Don Curry. Gorman built himself a nice stable. What were your dealings with him, Frankie?

kikibalt wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Might have posted this pic already. not sure

Guys, notice that I'm wearing my GG jacket in that photo, that was
my 1974 national GG's coach's jacket, both my '73-'74 jackets are long gone

kikibalt wrote:John Ruiz, the "Stinker", No thanks!

I can't think of anything worse.
I'll go out and catch a movie on that night. Maybe clean out a closet?

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:John Ruiz, the "Stinker", No thanks!

I can't think of anything worse.
I'll go out and catch a movie on that night. Maybe clean out a closet?

I rather talk to Connie and hear her out....

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:

kikibalt wrote: You're right Hammer, the Blake fight was a war, and Blake did sufffer a broken eardrum

Blake never looked as good again. What was the story with his pink shorts, Frank? Man, he had to be crazy wearing those!

Bennie...You're right about Blake never looking good again, Did Tony ruin him? I think so....

The pink trunks?, don't know and I don't want to know....

I am totally convinced of the fight with Tony taking a lot out of Blake 2 fights later Blake fights featherfisted Tyrone Crawley 3 knockouts in 15 fights and has him reeeling around the ring as Tyrone wins almost every round for a decision very next fight he loses another decision to harry arroyo then the next big name fighter he fights jimmy paul stops him that from a fighter who was I thought a sure champion with a chin good enough to take Tonys left hook which a couple of boxing magazines at the time rated tonys left hook as the hardest punch in the division no doubt I followed blake from about 10 fights into his career and the fight with tony ruined him,as far as the pink trunks it was a defiance thing like you think im a cissy go ahead and try me

bennie wrote:His stablemate Gene Hatcher was also a good fighter, as was Stevie Cruz and, of course, Don Curry. Gorman built himself a nice stable. What were your dealings with him, Frankie?

Bennie....I sign Tony to fight Gene Hatcher on CBS before the Blake fight, but Tony got hurt during training and we had to pull out of the fight, later on we sign for the Blake fight, CBS won't do the Hatcher fight as they thought that Blake was a bigger name by then.

Dealing with Gorman, none, for the 4 times that Tony fought on CBS my dealing were with the promoters and CBS.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote: Blake never looked as good again. What was the story with his pink shorts, Frank? Man, he had to be crazy wearing those!

Bennie...You're right about Blake never looking good again, Did Tony ruin him? I think so....

The pink trunks?, don't know and I don't want to know....

I am totally convinced of the fight with Tony taking a lot out of Blake 2 fights later Blake fights featherfisted Tyrone Crawley 3 knockouts in 15 fights and has him reeeling around the ring as Tyrone wins almost every round for a decision very next fight he loses another decision to harry arroyo then the next big name fighter he fights jimmy paul stops him that from a fighter who was I thought a sure champion with a chin good enough to take Tonys left hook which a couple of boxing magazines at the time rated tonys left hook as the hardest punch in the division no doubt I followed blake from about 10 fights into his career and the fight with tony ruined him,as far as the pink trunks it was a defiance thing like you think im a cissy go ahead and try me

A big mistake Gorman and CBS made was that they had Blake fighting a month after the fight with Tony against Melvin Paul, when he should had had some time off, his fight with Tony was no walk in the park...

anybody see the Carlos Zarate vs Lupe Pintor fight and was the decision as bad as people say

THEHAMMER321 wrote:anybody see the Carlos Zarate vs Lupe Pintor fight and was the decision as bad as people say

Hammer, the first time I saw Zarate-Pintor was when it was televised live back in '79 I think. I didn't score it, just kept it in my head. When the final bell rang I thought it was a good fight, competitive but comfortable for Zarate. I thought he was robbed. I got a chance to re-watch it on youtube, sat down with pen and paper in hand and ended up closer than I thought. I had it 144-142 for Zarate. Again I believed he should have got the decision but by no means a robbery.

Scartissue

scartissue wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:anybody see the Carlos Zarate vs Lupe Pintor fight and was the decision as bad as people say

Hammer, the first time I saw Zarate-Pintor was when it was televised live back in '79 I think. I didn't score it, just kept it in my head. When the final bell rang I thought it was a good fight, competitive but comfortable for Zarate. I thought he was robbed. I got a chance to re-watch it on youtube, sat down with pen and paper in hand and ended up closer than I thought. I had it 144-142 for Zarate. Again I believed he should have got the decision but by no means a robbery.
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Scartissue[/quote Thanks scartissue I only got to see Zarate fight was when he was over the hill when he came back in the mid 1980s would have liked to see him when he was in his prime vs zamora

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

scartissue wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:anybody see the Carlos Zarate vs Lupe Pintor fight and was the decision as bad as people say

Hammer, the first time I saw Zarate-Pintor was when it was televised live back in '79 I think. I didn't score it, just kept it in my head. When the final bell rang I thought it was a good fight, competitive but comfortable for Zarate. I thought he was robbed. I got a chance to re-watch it on youtube, sat down with pen and paper in hand and ended up closer than I thought. I had it 144-142 for Zarate. Again I believed he should have got the decision but by no means a robbery.
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Scartissue[/quote Thanks scartissue I only got to see Zarate fight was when he was over the hill when he came back in the mid 1980s would have liked to see him when he was in his prime vs zamora

The Z & Z fight I believe is on youtube

kikibalt wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

scartissue wrote:

Hammer, the first time I saw Zarate-Pintor was when it was televised live back in '79 I think. I didn't score it, just kept it in my head. When the final bell rang I thought it was a good fight, competitive but comfortable for Zarate. I thought he was robbed. I got a chance to re-watch it on youtube, sat down with pen and paper in hand and ended up closer than I thought. I had it 144-142 for Zarate. Again I believed he should have got the decision but by no means a robbery.
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Scartissue[/quote Thanks scartissue I only got to see Zarate fight was when he was over the hill when he came back in the mid 1980s would have liked to see him when he was in his prime vs zamora

The Z & Z fight I believe is on youtube

Thanks Frank I saw it on utube already but a fight loses something when you know the result already,would have liked to have seen the fight
when it happened btw Frank was just reading page 25 got to see Jimmy Montoya with kid meza as you and I had talked about Jimmy a couple of weeks ago I loved Jimmy in the corner man was he emotional he could really light a fire under a fighter when he wasnt being busy enough .

I think the Gomez pounding took something out of Zarate, mentally, as he simply walked away after the close loss to stablemate Pintor, when he boxed very conservatively indeed.
One gets the impression weary Carlos was looking for an excuse to take a break for a few years.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote: Hammer, the first time I saw Zarate-Pintor was when it was televised live back in '79 I think. I didn't score it, just kept it in my head. When the final bell rang I thought it was a good fight, competitive but comfortable for Zarate. I thought he was robbed. I got a chance to re-watch it on youtube, sat down with pen and paper in hand and ended up closer than I thought. I had it 144-142 for Zarate. Again I believed he should have got the decision but by no means a robbery.
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Scartissue[/quote Thanks scartissue I only got to see Zarate fight was when he was over the hill when he came back in the mid 1980s would have liked to see him when he was in his prime vs zamora

The Z & Z fight I believe is on youtube

Thanks Frank I saw it on utube already but a fight loses something when you know the result already,would have liked to have seen the fight
when it happened btw Frank was just reading page 25 got to see Jimmy Montoya with kid meza as you and I had talked about Jimmy a couple of weeks ago I loved Jimmy in the corner man was he emotional he could really light a fire under a fighter when he wasnt being busy enough .

Hammer...I known Jimmy since he came onto the boxing (1977) scene in L.A., without any boxing back ground, Jimmy is a good motivator and conditioner, but he can't teach you much of anything boxing wise, he never had anybody teach him anything, in other words he never went to school....

Muhammad Ali is 68 on Sunday. Here he is dismantling Jean-Pierre Coopman of Belgium in five rounds in February 1976 - just four months after the third Frazier killer. Is it really any surprise that Ali lost his health?