handsofstone wrote: ↑26 Oct 2020, 14:55
Duke McKenzie vs Charlie Magri
Mickey Duff declared that McKenzie was a better fighter than Magri in his biography but I feel a prime Magri (around 1980) is too strong for a prime Duke.
He did beat Santos Laciar, who by all means should be in the IBHOF.
Charlie was the best flyweight in the world in 1980 but his management were unable to land a world title shot. He was actually past it when he belatedly won the WBC title with a cuts win over Eleoncio Mercedes in 1983.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 05 Nov 2020, 12:43
by PredatorHayds
George Foreman- Jimmy Young
Good fight. I had Young winning on my card.
George started well but faded and Young started to time his counters better.
Young was awkward and Foreman was getting frustrated.
Crazy to think that next time we saw George it was a decade later. And it was nice guy George.
How bad was he in the dressing room afterwards? I’ve heard a few differing reports.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 05 Nov 2020, 15:11
by handsofstone
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Orlando Salido
Marquez beats Salido by wide UD to retain his World Featherweight titles, bit of a borefest, strangely passive showing from Salido, allowed Marquez to outbox him comfortably, used the jab shot out the right hand, Salido wasnt doing anything for first 5 rounds, he came into things in the middle rounds, started to let his hands go but switched off again and Marquez outboxed him down the stretch without much fuss, kept things simple
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 06 Nov 2020, 09:56
by PredatorHayds
Michael Spinks- Mike Tyson.
Huge fight. Along with Colonel Bob I get goosebumps every time I watch it.
Spinks caught Holmes early and gained his respect. He tried to do the same with Tyson (He was instructed not to) and paid the price.
Prime Tyson didn’t need an invitation to trade with anyone.
Nice $13 million for The Jinx though.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 06 Nov 2020, 14:48
by handsofstone
Chris John vs Juan Manuel Marquez
John beats Marquez by UD to retain his World Featherweight title, close fight between two sharp counter punchers but I thought Marquez done enough to win, he was away from home though and every time John partially landed a shot the crowd would orgasm in unison, not to mention the Indonesian commentary who were worse, Marquez for me landed the cleaner punches and more of them, he initiated most attacks and got the last word in the exchanges, he lost points for low blows in the 10th and 11th but it didn't matter anyway as he still wouldve lost, John was ok but didnt deserve win in my book
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 06 Nov 2020, 18:35
by DrDuke
Hasim Rahman vs Kali Meehan
Rahman absolutely crushed Meehan. Rahman was composed, he was always coming forward, he outjabbed Meehan on the routes inside, he was battering Meehan inside hard. Meehan wasn't able to have almost any success. At the end of the 4th round Rahman trapped Meehan at the corner, where he unleashed a brutal onslaught on Kali. After that round Meehan's corner immediately stopped the fight.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 07 Nov 2020, 16:50
by evrenb
DrDuke wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 18:35
Hasim Rahman vs Kali Meehan
Rahman absolutely crushed Meehan. Rahman was composed, he was always coming forward, he outjabbed Meehan on the routes inside, he was battering Meehan inside hard. Meehan wasn't able to have almost any success. At the end of the 4th round Rahman trapped Meehan at the corner, where he unleashed a brutal onslaught on Kali. After that round Meehan's corner immediately stopped the fight.
I remember this fight clearly as I was in New York (From Uk) and remember a crazy atmosphere in MSG...this was one of the highlights of the night for me....
DrDuke wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 18:35
Hasim Rahman vs Kali Meehan
Rahman absolutely crushed Meehan. Rahman was composed, he was always coming forward, he outjabbed Meehan on the routes inside, he was battering Meehan inside hard. Meehan wasn't able to have almost any success. At the end of the 4th round Rahman trapped Meehan at the corner, where he unleashed a brutal onslaught on Kali. After that round Meehan's corner immediately stopped the fight.
I remember this fight clearly as I was in New York (From Uk) and remember a crazy atmosphere in MSG...this was one of the highlights of the night for me....
Cool, it was a decent card there.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 07 Nov 2020, 23:32
by AntonioMartin
I saw Hagler-Sibson again...
Sibson was lively until the end but Hagler dominated with the jab.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 08 Nov 2020, 04:36
by Woldemar
Mando Ramos vs Sugar Ramos
What i can say - great fight.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 08 Nov 2020, 04:46
by AntonioMartin
Woldemar wrote: ↑08 Nov 2020, 04:36
Mando Ramos vs Sugar Ramos
What i can say - great fight.
Ramos vs. Ramos...sounds like a divorce hearing
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 08 Nov 2020, 09:36
by PredatorHayds
Mike Tyson- Frank Bruno
Tyson stops him but Bruno boxes well.
Didn’t seem scared and tried mixing it up with Tyson. Holding and hitting. Lovely left he catches Tyson with.
GET IN THERE FRANK
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 10 Nov 2020, 17:05
by NoScoutingReports
Ricky Hatton vs Luis Collazo - not a 'classic' by definition but 12 hard-fought rounds, close fight but Ricky did enough to get the nod I thought. Hatton started well to the body and Collazo stayed in the pocket initially however in the middle rounds Luis began to time Ricky with some neat counters, particularly the short right hook. Hatton was typically relentless however and his continuous pressure began to tell on Collazo. In fairness to LC he won R12 big and had Hatton in some trouble but I felt Hatton, especially with the knockdown in R1, deserved the victory.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 10 Nov 2020, 17:58
by Counter-puncher
NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑10 Nov 2020, 17:05
Ricky Hatton vs Luis Collazo - not a 'classic' by definition but 12 hard-fought rounds, close fight but Ricky did enough to get the nod I thought. Hatton started well to the body and Collazo stayed in the pocket initially however in the middle rounds Luis began to time Ricky with some neat counters, particularly the short right hook. Hatton was typically relentless however and his continuous pressure began to tell on Collazo. In fairness to LC he won R12 big and had Hatton in some trouble but I felt Hatton, especially with the knockdown in R1, deserved the victory.
Haven’t seen it since it happened, is it a good fight? I recall Hatton falling in and holding and grappling a lot, but maybe that was later on?
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 10 Nov 2020, 19:00
by Syntax Error
evrenb wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 12:59
Forgot about this brilliant fight and I recently loaded it up. A fantastic early test for Mercer and a really really tough performance by Cooper. Bert could be bad, but he could be very good when he was switched on. 30 years ago! Hard to believe really. A great watch and a 'forgotten' classic. Enjoy
NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑10 Nov 2020, 17:05
Ricky Hatton vs Luis Collazo - not a 'classic' by definition but 12 hard-fought rounds, close fight but Ricky did enough to get the nod I thought. Hatton started well to the body and Collazo stayed in the pocket initially however in the middle rounds Luis began to time Ricky with some neat counters, particularly the short right hook. Hatton was typically relentless however and his continuous pressure began to tell on Collazo. In fairness to LC he won R12 big and had Hatton in some trouble but I felt Hatton, especially with the knockdown in R1, deserved the victory.
Haven’t seen it since it happened, is it a good fight? I recall Hatton falling in and holding and grappling a lot, but maybe that was later on?
I hadn't watched it for years either to be fair! Hatton does fall in and smother his work on occasion after a good start yeah, Collazo was picking him off at times with single counters while Ricky was the more active of the two. It's a watchable fight without being a barnstormer, if that makes sense.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 11 Nov 2020, 04:54
by handsofstone
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Rocky Juarez
Marquez beats Juarez by wide UD to retain his World Super Featherweight title, masterclass from Marquez who boxed beautifully throughout, Juarez was cut early to the left eye and it worsened every round but he showed a ton of heart and grit, never stopped coming forward but he was picked off all night, Marquez jabbed, countered, landed fast combinations and put a slow sustained beating on Juarez, broke him down to the body, even when Juarez was having success up close he was still losing rounds, he probably could've been pulled from the fight late on it was clear it was a lost cause but his heart seen him through to the end
NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑10 Nov 2020, 17:05
Ricky Hatton vs Luis Collazo - not a 'classic' by definition but 12 hard-fought rounds, close fight but Ricky did enough to get the nod I thought. Hatton started well to the body and Collazo stayed in the pocket initially however in the middle rounds Luis began to time Ricky with some neat counters, particularly the short right hook. Hatton was typically relentless however and his continuous pressure began to tell on Collazo. In fairness to LC he won R12 big and had Hatton in some trouble but I felt Hatton, especially with the knockdown in R1, deserved the victory.
Haven’t seen it since it happened, is it a good fight? I recall Hatton falling in and holding and grappling a lot, but maybe that was later on?
I hadn't watched it for years either to be fair! Hatton does fall in and smother his work on occasion after a good start yeah, Collazo was picking him off at times with single counters while Ricky was the more active of the two. It's a watchable fight without being a barnstormer, if that makes sense.
ta. i may stick it on some time haven't really ever really re-watched any of the Hatton fights
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 12 Nov 2020, 04:39
by handsofstone
Henry Maske vs Iran Barkley
Maske stops Barkley after 9 rounds to retain his World Light Heavyweight title, positive start from Barkley, he was aggressive and was able to rough up the much taller upright Maske, by the 3rd Maske was beginning to take over though, popping out thr southpaw jab and following up with thr left hand and moving out of range, Barkley kept pressing but he was fading after every round, his left eye was shut and by the 9th it was pretty much target practice for Maske who was landing at will, after the 9th Barkley was retired on his stool
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 14:34
by DrDuke
Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko
Still the best HW fight of this century.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 15:29
by DrDuke
Vitali Klitschko vs Corrie Sanders
Sanders came there to KO Klitschko early, but it was his mistake. He won the 1st round, where he stunned Klitschko, but he was done and calculated after that. Well, it was Sanders' style to explode early, so this fight had only one scenario. In the 3rd Sanders tried again, but Klitschko was ready that time. Klitschko was battering Sanders badly since then until the stoppage. Sanders had some real guts to take such beating.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 23:24
by bobcatbox
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 09:56
Michael Spinks- Mike Tyson.
Huge fight. Along with Colonel Bob I get goosebumps every time I watch it.
evrenb wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 12:59
Forgot about this brilliant fight and I recently loaded it up. A fantastic early test for Mercer and a really really tough performance by Cooper. Bert could be bad, but he could be very good when he was switched on. 30 years ago! Hard to believe really. A great watch and a 'forgotten' classic. Enjoy
Good call.
Bert Cooper was always good value.
Ray Mercer too. He was a fun heavyweight with a cool story. His KO of Morrison is pure heavyweight brutality.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 14 Nov 2020, 05:49
by DrDuke
Vitali Klitschko vs Samuel Peter
Klitschko came back after the hiatus, but he managed to appear without rust. The fight was absolutely one-sided. Klitschko fought hands down, jabbed and one-twoed the hell out of Peter. Peter looked awul, he was slow on his feet, his head and body movement were unexistent, his punches weren't fast either, he didn't try to come inside with combinations, he relied on a single punch, which he wasn't able to deliver because of being slow and predictable. Klitschko was scoring precisely for 8 rounds, after what tired, frustrated and bruised Peter decided to quit..
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 14 Nov 2020, 14:34
by DrDuke
Vitali Klitschko vs Chris Arreola
Arreola had tons of will, but a bit of skill. Chris was always coming forward, but his head and body movement was poor, he was slow and predictable with his punches, a lot of them were nullified at the stage of preparation. Klitschko moved well and beat the hell of Arreola on the backfoot, with constant jabs and one-twos. After the 10th round Arreola was battered enough to be saved by the stoppage of the bout.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 14 Nov 2020, 15:02
by NoScoutingReports
Ahead of the fight later I just watched Kell Brook v Errol Spence Jr back for the first time since seeing it live, enjoyable. Kell started nicely and was countering Errol's jab regularly, also his backhand was the more accurate of the two but as the fight moved into the middle rounds Errol began to find his range. Consistent body work from Spence Jr helped him break Brook down and he took over hugely from R7 onwards when the left eye of the champion was injured.
Forgot how biased the Sky coverage was (not surprised mind), literally gave Spence zero credit for the first half of the fight and ignored numerous scoring shots, didn't help that Froch was calling him 'Spencer' throughout the entirety of the broadcast Froch and Smith got ahead of themselves early on but soon started to realise Errol was/is legit.