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Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 30 Apr 2016, 17:30
by mike1989
computerrank wrote:mike1989 wrote:computerrank wrote:
Max Schmeling now looks like this:
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Light Heavyweight 1927 854 17 13 4 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Light Heavyweight 1928 823 31 23 8 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1929 1133 61 45 16 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1930 2002 193 111 82 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1931 2581 281 177 104 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1932 2629 380 243 138 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1933 1691 397 259 138 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1934 1620 423 276 147 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1935 2556 478 298 180 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1936 4062 610 364 246 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1937 2639 643 397 246 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1938 1970 676 430 246 0 9041 Max Schmeling
Heavyweight 1939 2534 775 463 312 0 9041 Max Schmeling
in 1933, Schmeling not included in annual rating points Nishitani ?? But this does not apply to rating Schmeling ) ... and everything is perfect. Can reset your rating of Hopkins ???
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 01:39
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:computerrank wrote:mike1989 wrote:
in 1933, Schmeling not included in annual rating points Nishitani ?? But this does not apply to rating Schmeling ) ... and everything is perfect. Can reset your rating of Hopkins ???
Yes, Schmeling is ranked #4 in his 1933 division cluster. -> + 16 points
But his single bout in 1933 against Baer was a straight TKO loss and so he did not get any opponent rank points in 1933. -> +0 points
... and now Hopkins:
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Middleweight 1992 306 4 4 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1993 324 4 4 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1994 257 4 4 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1995 333 8 8 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1996 363 18 18 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1997 384 27 27 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1998 385 38 38 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1999 549 65 60 4 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2000 581 91 82 9 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2001 1234 223 148 75 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2002 1234 289 214 75 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2003 917 365 280 85 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2004 1094 464 346 118 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2005 677 508 368 140 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2006 883 640 434 206 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2007 1087 772 500 272 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2008 1095 904 566 338 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2009 1095 970 632 338 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2010 686 1058 698 360 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2011 757 1157 764 393 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2012 585 1195 786 409 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2013 593 1219 803 416 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2014 252 1225 809 416 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 01:47
by mike1989
computerrank wrote:mike1989 wrote:computerrank wrote:
in 1933, Schmeling not included in annual rating points Nishitani ?? But this does not apply to rating Schmeling ) ... and everything is perfect. Can reset your rating of Hopkins ???
Yes, Schmeling is ranked #4 in his 1933 division cluster. -> + 16 points
But his single bout in 1933 against Baer was a straight TKO loss and so he did not get any opponent rank points in 1933. -> +0 point
you not correctly understood me )...with ratings in 1933, its just normal in this table it is not present )...:
BoxRec's Annual Ratings Men
division year r boxer
Heavyweight 1933 3116 Primo Carnera
Heavyweight 1933 3022 Max Baer
Heavyweight 1933 1858 King Levinsky
Heavyweight 1933 1518 Pierre Charles
Heavyweight 1933 1408 Ernie Schaaf
Heavyweight 1933 1362 Young Stribling
Heavyweight 1933 1104 Paulino Uzcudun
Heavyweight 1933 1098 Patsy Perroni
Heavyweight 1933 1079 Tommy Loughran
Heavyweight 1933 1026 Walter Neusel
Heavyweight 1933 1019 Jack Sharkey
for rating Hopkins thank you ! )
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 01:55
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:...
you not correctly understood me )...with ratings in 1933, its just normal in this table it is not present )...:
BoxRec's Annual Ratings Men
division year r boxer
Heavyweight 1933 3116 Primo Carnera
Heavyweight 1933 3022 Max Baer
Heavyweight 1933 1858 King Levinsky
Heavyweight 1933 1518 Pierre Charles
Heavyweight 1933 1408 Ernie Schaaf
Heavyweight 1933 1362 Young Stribling
Heavyweight 1933 1104 Paulino Uzcudun
Heavyweight 1933 1098 Patsy Perroni
Heavyweight 1933 1079 Tommy Loughran
Heavyweight 1933 1026 Walter Neusel
Heavyweight 1933 1019 Jack Sharkey
for rating Hopkins thank you ! )
OK, yes, the annual ratings have to be corrected too - his TKO loss was counted as a 0 performance and so he got lost in 1933 .
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 02:16
by mike1989
computerrank wrote:mike1989 wrote:computerrank wrote:
... and now Hopkins:
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Middleweight 1992 306 4 4 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1993 324 4 4 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1994 257 4 4 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1995 333 8 8 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1996 363 18 18 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1997 384 27 27 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1998 385 38 38 0 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 1999 549 65 60 4 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2000 581 91 82 9 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2001 1234 223 148 75 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2002 1234 289 214 75 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2003 917 365 280 85 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2004 1094 464 346 118 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Middleweight 2005 677 508 368 140 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2006 883 640 434 206 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2007 1087 772 500 272 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2008 1095 904 566 338 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2009 1095 970 632 338 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2010 686 1058 698 360 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2011 757 1157 764 393 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2012 585 1195 786 409 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2013 593 1219 803 416 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
Light Heavyweight 2014 252 1225 809 416 0 1414 Bernard Hopkins
1994 Hopkins have not accrued the points ? in 2008, Hopkins has received +66 for the best battered opoziciju of saxet close defeat Calzaghe ?? reconsider your rating of Hopkins for 2011-2013 there on my little point?) in annual, ratings me in a light heavyweight mistake in 2012??? (Hopkins and Dawson need to swap) ??
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 02:19
by mike1989
in 2004 Klitschko will dositey annual, ratings me. he was in the top 20, because Holyfield is in the top 20 protective ????
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 03:23
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:...
1994 Hopkins have not accrued the points ? in 2008, Hopkins has received +66 for the best battered opoziciju of saxet close defeat Calzaghe ?? reconsider your rating of Hopkins for 2011-2013 there on my little point?) in annual, ratings me in a light heavyweight mistake in 2012??? (Hopkins and Dawson need to swap) ??
- 1994: Hopkins was #9 at middleweight, but #12 at light middleweight had a bit more points, even converted to middleweight. So Hopkins was only #21 in the cluster
- 2008: had a close loss against #2 Calzaghe and got these 67 points for that
- why reconsider Hopkins 2011-2013, what is the point with it?
- 2012 Dawson lost to Ward after he closely defeated Hopkins - so Dawson fell back behind Hopkins ...
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 03:30
by computerrank
for your interest:
the annuals bests and sorted by boxer ...
ann_tops_years
ann_tops_boxers
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 06:23
by Lennox
I really don't know how anyone can think boxrec ratings are any good: Check out Super-middleweight. You now have Badou Jack Below George Groves.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 06:39
by computerrank
Lennox wrote:I really don't know how anyone can think boxrec ratings are any good: Check out Super-middleweight. You now have Badou Jack Below George Groves.
Lennox, I know, you are binding a winner and a loser for year in your ratings.
But I say, if the winner looses points after a fight, he might well fall back behind a boxer recently defeated before - especially, if the result was close.
Nothing is fixed in boxing - everything is moving every day ...
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 11:52
by JCS
Lennox wrote:I really don't know how anyone can think boxrec ratings are any good: Check out Super-middleweight. You now have Badou Jack Below George Groves.
Split decisions aren't strong enough to block the loser IMO... especially considering Jack was (essentially) the home fighter.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 12:09
by Lennox
JCS - If you are really defending Badou Jack's position at 11 with two fighters he recently defeated now above him then I have lost all respect I had for you, because that is straight barmy.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2016, 12:18
by JCS
Lennox wrote:JCS - If you are really defending Badou Jack's position at 11 with two fighters he recently defeated now above him then I have lost all respect I had for you, because that is straight barmy.
You're putting words in my mouth.
All I'm saying is that a split decision should NOT be a very strong barrier.. Styles, Home advantage, bad scoring.. can easily turn this win into a draw or a loss...
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 02 May 2016, 10:29
by mike1989
you can reset the rating of Lomachenko ???
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 02 May 2016, 10:46
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:you can reset the rating of Lomachenko ???
I posted here the complete links for all boxers on Saturday ...
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 02 May 2016, 12:59
by mike1989
thank you !!)))... and how to use them, they are not active ??? ))
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 02 May 2016, 13:48
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:thank you !!)))... and how to use them, they are not active ??? ))
Just click on them ... or what is your problem ???
Here are the links as text:
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 02 May 2016, 17:05
by mike1989
how to open a particular fighter and not watch the entire table, it is difficult to understand ???
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 02 May 2016, 18:04
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:
how to open a particular fighter and not watch the entire table, it is difficult to understand ???
Sorry, I made a typo ... just open the link
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt
and use the browser's search function with the boxer's name ...
The data are sorted by boxers.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 03 May 2016, 02:06
by mike1989
you'll excuse me, in what browser ??? in boxrec or search engine Yandex, Google???)
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 03 May 2016, 02:41
by computerrank
mike1989 wrote:computerrank wrote:mike1989 wrote:
you'll excuse me, in what browser ??? in boxrec or search engine Yandex, Google???)
Do you use firefox?
click at the link and you can see the text . yes or no?
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt
then use CTRL+F, and a search box will pop up at the lower border of the page and then write the name of a boxer like Lomachenko into the box
now you will see the data of Lomachenko ...
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 03 May 2016, 04:13
by mike1989
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt
then use CTRL+F, and a search box will pop up at the lower border of the page and then write the name of a boxer like Lomachenko into the box
now you will see the data of Lomachenko ...[/quote]
thank you ! )... Lomachenko for Salido in 2014 was to receive is not +33 as at the time of the fight Salido was the second ???
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 03 May 2016, 04:41
by computerrank
thank you ! )... Lomachenko for Salido in 2014 was to receive is not +33 as at the time of the fight Salido was the second ???[/quote]
Salido was #4 in the cluster featherweight / super bantamweight
You can find all ranked bouts here:
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks.txt
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 03 May 2016, 08:37
by mike1989
Yes exactly.. ) already looked )
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 03 May 2016, 08:38
by mike1989
and when will be the next to respond the the rating all time ???