Classic American West Coast Boxing

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 13:09

"WOW" 0ne hundred pages!!!!!!!!!!

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 14:03

Jack Roper

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 14:06

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 09 Apr 2008, 14:55

With all due respect to Boone Kirkman, he didn't get knocked out "from the whiplash" when Al Jones knocked him down; he got knocked out by the punch. I was in Al's corner that night, and I saw the whole thing not more than 10 feet from me.

Kirkman went down in almost the same manner as Mike Quarry did against Bob Foster, and Ingo against Patterson in the second fight. He was out before he ever hit the canvas. His head did hit the canvas hard, but that was just the icing on the cake.

It was the hardest punch I've ever seen live, and one of the hardest I've seen including TV or close-circuit. I thought Al had killed him. Literally. I remember thinking at the time: "My God. I've now seen a man get killed in the ring."

But Kirkman is right about one thing: It was supposed to be a tune up, as evidenced by Kirkman knocking Al down four or five times in the first two rounds before Kirkman ran into the big one.

I'm glad to hear that he's doing well.

Rick Farris · Post by **Rick Farris** » 09 Apr 2008, 15:49

kikibalt wrote:"WOW" 0ne hundred pages!!!!!!!!!!

Just getting started.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 16:35

My 1985 Managers License from the state of Nevada

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 09 Apr 2008, 16:40

kikibalt wrote:

My 1985 Managers License from the state of Nevada

You are 48 in that picture?
Where is the grey hair?
What the heck, I was greyer than you at 19 for cryin out loud.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 16:47

Expug wrote:
kikibalt wrote:

My 1985 Managers License from the state of Nevada

You are 48 in that picture?
Where is the grey hair?
What the heck, I was greyer than you at 19 for cryin out loud.

Pug,

I didn't get gray hair til my mid-50's.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 17:16

"The Boardwalk" A.C, N.J.

1983, we were there the for the Howard Davis fight.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 19:06

Bobby Rizo
1976 National AAU Junior Olympic Champion.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 19:10

Richie Sandoval
1976 AAU National Junior Olympic Champion

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 21:07

kikibalt wrote:
Bobby Rizo
1976 National AAU Junior Olympic Champion.

Bobby had all tools to have been a top fighter, but he fell to drug like lots of fighters before and after him have.

He reminded me so much of Keeny Teran in boxing style.

That pic. I shot at the National AAU Junior Olympic Tournament at St. Norbert College, Green Bay-Depere, Wi., same year that Richie Sandoval and my son Tony won the nationals, that year our team won 4 championships, Jack Padilla from NoCal been the other one.

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 09 Apr 2008, 21:19

Any of the LA. Crew
I'm working with a real nice kid who just came aboard. He tells me his uncle is Jose Luis Cotero. He talks about his uncle's fight with "Pajarito". I see that fight was at Gilmore Field. Where was Gilmore Field? I'm trying to work on this young fella' to get on the forum and persuade his uncle also. It will take some work. The kid is a little shy,but I think he'll come around.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 21:22

Btw, Bobby Rizo is the brother-law of Albert Davila.
Albert is married to Bobby's sister.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 21:27

dagosd2000 wrote:Any of the LA. Crew
I'm working with a real nice kid who just came aboard. He tells me his uncle is Jose Luis Cotero. He talks about his uncle's fight with "Pajarito". I see that fight was at Gilmore Field. Where was Gilmore Field? I'm trying to work on this young fella' to get on the forum and persuade his uncle also. It will take some work. The kid is a little shy,but I think he'll come around.

I seen that fight, Cotero ko Moreno, Gilmore was on the west side of L.A.

Jose had a brother that fought at the same time, his name is Armando Cotero, I have posted some pics. of them, I'll post them again.

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 09 Apr 2008, 21:40

kikibalt wrote:
Expug wrote:
kikibalt wrote:

My 1985 Managers License from the state of Nevada

You are 48 in that picture?
Where is the grey hair?
What the heck, I was greyer than you at 19 for cryin out loud.
Pug,

I didn't get gray hair til my mid-50's.

I showed my wife your picture and said"This is one of the guys that's gonna' be there."
She looked at me kind of funny and said"Should we go to Tijuana and bring my brother's gun?"

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 21:43

Here you go, diego.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 21:45

dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Expug wrote:
You are 48 in that picture?
Where is the grey hair?
What the heck, I was greyer than you at 19 for cryin out loud.
Pug,

I didn't get gray hair til my mid-50's.

I showed my wife your picture and said"This is one of the guys that's gonna' be there."
She looked at me kind of funny and said"Should we go to Tijuana and bring my brother's gun?"

You dick--

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 09 Apr 2008, 21:59

kikibalt wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Bobby Rizo
1976 National AAU Junior Olympic Champion.
Bobby had all tools to have been a top fighter, but he fell to drug like lots of fighters before and after him have.

He reminded me so much of Keeny Teran in boxing style.

That pic. I shot at the National AAU Junior Olympic Tournament at St. Norbert College, Green Bay-Depere, Wi., same year that Richie Sandoval and my son Tony won the nationals, that year our team won 4 championships, Jack Padilla from NoCal been the other one.

Man I dont know what the hell it is about fighters and drugs and alcohol.
I know the dangers of the sauce too.
Typical freakin mick palooka , I worked as the doorman at an Irish bar when I was fightin.
I was also a bakery Driver a little later on , but no doudt I woulda done more if I didnt have such an affinity towards beer . And lots of it.
And of course the wild antics that goes along with that .
Maybe for a boxer drinkin takes some kind of edge off who knows?
But its probably kod as many guys outta the ring as have been kod in it.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 22:05

dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Expug wrote:
You are 48 in that picture?
Where is the grey hair?
What the heck, I was greyer than you at 19 for cryin out loud.
Pug,

I didn't get gray hair til my mid-50's.

I showed my wife your picture and said"This is one of the guys that's gonna' be there."
She looked at me kind of funny and said"Should we go to Tijuana and bring my brother's gun?"

diego,

My wife just seen that pic. for the first time, and she tells me, "if I didn't know you, I would get a gun too", shit!!

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 09 Apr 2008, 22:23

Expug wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Bobby Rizo
1976 National AAU Junior Olympic Champion.
Bobby had all tools to have been a top fighter, but he fell to drug like lots of fighters before and after him have.

He reminded me so much of Keeny Teran in boxing style.

That pic. I shot at the National AAU Junior Olympic Tournament at St. Norbert College, Green Bay-Depere, Wi., same year that Richie Sandoval and my son Tony won the nationals, that year our team won 4 championships, Jack Padilla from NoCal been the other one.

Man I dont know what the hell it is about fighters and drugs and alcohol.
I know the dangers of the sauce too.
Typical freakin mick palooka , I worked as the doorman at an Irish bar when I was fightin.
I was also a bakery Driver a little later on , but no doudt I woulda done more if I didnt have such an affinity towards beer . And lots of it.
And of course the wild antics that goes along with that .
Maybe for a boxer drinkin takes some kind of edge off who knows?
But its probably kod as many guys outta the ring as have been kod in it.

Pug,Frank,Scar,any of the other guys
Let's face it,if some of these guys weren't boxing,you wonder what their lives would have been like. If you measured the testosterone levels of a fighter,it would probably register off the charts. Boxing is for the guys who if they ain't fighten',they're f---en. Most fighters I've known act respectable in public,but they don't seem afraid of anything. They act on impulses and if they feel like doing something,they don't hesitate. They don't think of any consequences. They don't see themselves.

I remember Vicky LaMotta took her former husband Jake to see Raging Bull. After the movie was over,she asked him what he thought. His reply.
"Was I really that bad?"
Her answer. "No,you were worse."

Pug,did you ever see how posters,who've never fought, respond to the ex pugs on this Forum like yourself? They're very carefull around you guys. But then again, maybe you don't see it.

dagosd2000 · Post by **dagosd2000** » 09 Apr 2008, 22:30

kikibalt wrote:

Here you go, diego.

Frank
Thanks for showing those pictures again. I'm going to show that kid tomorrow the pictures of his uncle. I think that will turn the trick.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 09 Apr 2008, 22:37

This thread has officially become a full blown force of nature....

Haven't missed a page.

kikibalt · Post by **kikibalt** » 09 Apr 2008, 22:38

diego,

Ask him what his uncles are doing now days, are they ok?, where are they living?