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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 21:31
by dagosd2000
Randyman wrote:The Memorial Service for my uncle Larry was held this past Saturday at the Calvary Cemetery in East Los Angeles. It turned out to be a pretty nice day considering how much rain we've had. It wasn't too big of an affair. Hell, at 96 he has out lived almost all of his of his family and and friends. Members of the American Legion were there. My uncle was a life long member. It was actually pretty nice, more of a celebration than anything else. Here's a few pics of some cousins.

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The Mariachis singing "El Rey"

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My cousin Gloria Jean, me, Gary De La O and his mother, my aunt Mary Lou.

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Gary, aunt Mary Lou and Jeri

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My cousin Jimmy Caldero. Jimmy trained at the Main Street Gym years ago. I don't think he ever fought, just trained. He is holds a Black Belt in Judo. He's in good shape for 68.

Beautifull. Just beautifull Randy. BTW. Jose Alfredo Jimenez wrote "El Rey" for Mantequilla Napoles.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 21:33
by dagosd2000

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 21:35
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:SUGAR IN THE EVENING SUGAR IN THE MORNING

My dad would surprise once in a while when I would be with him. He would spot someone famous ,then go up ,put his arm around the guy,and break out into a laugh and a conversation. Back in Chicago I remember this happening when my Dad spotted the great Sugar Ray Robinson standing on a street corner. I remember it was very cold.
"Hey there's Sugar Ray Robinson,"said my Dad pointing to the Sugar Man.
I knew who Sugar Ray Robinson was. He was the guy that had womped on all those dago fighters. I never could get over the fact that LaMotta had lost four times to Robinson. To hear the spaghetti eaters tell it on the southwest side it was Jake that finally got that pound of flesh for the fall of Rome. Hell,don't ever bring it up that Jake ever lost to Robinson.So here's my Dad walking up to Ray Robinson ,and Ray sees him and gives my Dad that Sugar Ray Robinson smile.
"Joe"says Robby still smiling."How you doing?"
"Sugar,I want you to meet my son."
Ray Robinson bends down a little ,head cocked to the side,and extends his hand. Not a earth shaking grip. Naw,that wasn't Ray Robinson. A polite firm shake. Ray Robinson. Even when he shook your hand he had style. Walking down a flight of stairs.Opening up the newspaper. I guess you're born with it. You don't rehearse that kind of stuff.
"Sugar.Remember when you were standing in front of Meadowmoor dairy when they gunned down Mo Greenburg?"exclaimed my Dad.
"Joe,I thought they wanted to shoot me!"
To see those two giants laugh out loud at that one!

My Dad and Sugar Ray Robinson on a cold street corner in Chicago. I guess you don't rehearse that kind of stuff.
What a great personal memory Rog! That's the kind of stuff money can't buy. It's a funny thing about most boxers (not all), they have weak and limp handshakes. I can't figure it out. I was raised by my father to give a firm handshake. Not overly so but appropriately firm. The first time I shook hands with Oscar De la Hoya I was taken back a bit, it was barely there, almost feminine. It didn't fit him. Ali had a loose grip as if he were afraid his hands would be hurt. I shook hands with Robinson back in the 7o's and I remember his handshake as being a fairly firm grip. It took me a while to not judge fighters by their handshakes. They're on a different level and the same rules don't seem to apply. On the flip side, I hate it when I shake hands with someone and they attempt to apply the death grip on you. Too much to prove I guess.

Great Story
Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 21:39
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:
Randyman wrote:The Memorial Service for my uncle Larry was held this past Saturday at the Calvary Cemetery in East Los Angeles. It turned out to be a pretty nice day considering how much rain we've had. It wasn't too big of an affair. Hell, at 96 he has out lived almost all of his of his family and and friends. Members of the American Legion were there. My uncle was a life long member. It was actually pretty nice, more of a celebration than anything else. Here's a few pics of some cousins.

Image
The Mariachis singing "El Rey"

Image
My cousin Gloria Jean, me, Gary De La O and his mother, my aunt Mary Lou.

Image
Gary, aunt Mary Lou and Jeri

Image
My cousin Jimmy Caldero. Jimmy trained at the Main Street Gym years ago. I don't think he ever fought, just trained. He is holds a Black Belt in Judo. He's in good shape for 68.

Beautifull. Just beautifull Randy. BTW. Jose Alfredo Jimenez wrote "El Rey" for Mantequilla Napoles.
My uncle Larry had a great friendship with Jimenez. The room where the service was held was filled with pictures of them taken through the years. His family swears the song was written for my uncle. That fact (or myth) was written on the handout that was passed out to the guests.

Randy :??

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 21:44
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:CHALIE BROWN

No,it ain't Charlie,it's Chalie. Chalie Brown. He was Henry's brother. Played with these guys on the Ghetto Messengers. Only "cracker on the team." Those guys were cool.We'd practice at Ocean View Park by the cemetary in Barrio Logan. It was before the gang bangers and the hard drugs. We'd take the Urban League bus to the games.
"Hey Esty,"they'd laugh. "You're cool. You can sit in the middle of the bus!"
I don't think I ever laughed so much being with those guys in my life. But let me tell ya',those guys played some serious football. I could hang with them pretty good and that made me a part of them. I liked jazz and the blues and played my ass off in the games. We'd take no sh-t from anybody,especially when we played the San Diego Police Department.Every game ended short because of a fight. I can't say that we didn't start them,but our team would hear stuff like,"Listen boys,let's play by the rules."
Well ,that comment would usually be followed by a right cross to one of those cop's jaws. So the ref throws a flag and it's a 15 yard penalty. Do that on the street and it's jail time.

Afterwards it would be sliding into a juke joint to listen to Rhythm and Blues and Jazz,go down to Midway Boulevard and watch the girls dance naked in front of you drinking a whiskey and soda.

About a year ago I saw Chalie Brown. He delivers the mail. His brother Henry died a few years ago from cancer. I didn't hear about that until much later. I embraced my old teamate.
"Rog!,"yelled Chalie."Man it's been a long time. How's things?"
I had to mention his brother ,Henry,my good friend who was also my mentor teacher at Juvenile Hall.
"Chalie,I didn't know about your brother."
I wanted to say I was sorry,but I was weaping openly before I could go on.
"It's OK Rog. It's OK."
I tried to pull myself together.
"Chalie,how's the old neighborhood?"
"Rog,"Chalie said as I was finally coming around. "These kids today don't know how to have fun like we used to."
With that I hugged my friend again.
"Yeah.These kids don't know what they missed,"I said.
It's a different world Rog! We were lucky!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 21:52
by Randyman
Old Habit's Die Hard.....

I try to be a good Christian man. I don't push it on anyone and I try to go to church when I can. Okay, that's a lie but I do try to go sometimes. I still enjoy beer and I have my vices like anyone else.

This morning I'm driving to work and listening to a Christian station, trying to start the day off on a good note. I pull into the parking lot and sit for a while before I go in. I decided to say a prayer before I go in. As I'm praying silently to myself a guy in a truck pulls in the spot in front of me and leaves his lights on. As I'm praying I'm getting pissed because the lights are shining on me and bugging me. In the middle of my prayers I think to myself "turn off your f*cking lights!". Oops, sorry Lord!!

Randy :oops:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 21:55
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Ray Robinson in front of his nightclub in Harlem
:TU: :TU: :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 22:11
by dagosd2000
Randy
Years ago they did a tribute to Jose Alfro Jimenez in Mexico City. Lola Beltran was the master of ceremonies. Vicente Fernandez,Antonio Aguilar,and Juan Gabriel I remember being on stage singing Jose Alfredos songs too. Listening ,was Jose Alfredo's wife sitting at center stage.A beautifull dignified woman sitting silently hanging on every word and note. They showed a montage of old photographs and every artist sang their hearts out.We know Jose Alfredo was a handfull. He didn't shy away from a drink and good time with the mariachis. I know Senora Jimenez bore a cross many times.

Finally,at the end of the memorial,Lola Beltran sang his song "Ella". Senora Jimenez ,who was keeping a stoic beautifuul composure throughout the evening,broke down. So did I.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 22:11
by dagosd2000

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 22:20
by Randyman
This is a man's song dammit!

El Rey (The King) English Translation

I know very well that I'm on the outs
But on the day I die
I know you'll be crying

Crying and crying
Crying and crying

You'll say that you didn't love me
But you're going to be so very sad
And you will remain so

With or without money
I do whatever I want
And whatever I say goes
I haven't a throne nor a queen
Nor anybody who understands me
But I still remain the king

A stone in my path
Revealed to me that my destiny
Was to go rolling along

Rolling and rolling
Rolling and rolling

Afterwards, a muleteer told me
It's not important to arrive first
But you must know how to arrive

With or without money
I do whatever I want
And whatever I say goes
I haven't a throne or a queen
Nor anybody who understands me
But I still remain the king

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 22:28
by Randyman
Lola Beltran and Linda Rondstadt
(The master and the student)

"Hay Unos Ojos"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoB7Ytulw2s

Randy :bow: :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 22:43
by kikibalt
One of my all time favorite Mexican singer
Alberto Vasquez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA6O8HXIp4U
"A Pesar De Todo"

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 22:47
by kikibalt
Alberto Vasquez sing Jose Alfredo Jimenez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93D_mnqKsGA
"Vamonos"

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 22:50
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:One of my all time favorite Mexican singer
Alberto Vasquez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA6O8HXIp4U
"A Pesar De Todo"
Nice Frank, and very smooth. I wasn't familiar with him. I'll be checking out some of his other songs.

Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 22:56
by Randyman
This song has to be one of my all time favorites and reminds me of my father. At the right moment with the right amount of alcohol it can bring me to tears.

"Crei" By Juan Mendoza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXea6e-Vp_s

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 22:58
by dagosd2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3VrlaAcaY

Beto Vasquez and Angelica Maria singing for old times sake in the 90's. Mexico's rock n roll stars of the 60's.

Hey Frank
I used to know this gal who worked at the Blue Fox in TJ., probably Tijuana's most notorious cantina. One night I'm in there and she breaks out this photo album and there she is posing with Alberto Vasquez. Beto had a big grin on his face! :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 23:01
by dagosd2000
Randyman wrote:This song has to be one of my all time favorites and reminds me of my father. At the right moment with the right amount of alcohol it can bring me to tears.

"Crei" By Juan Mendoza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXea6e-Vp_s
Randy
One of the most beautifull songs ever written .I have a version with "Los Tecolines." Man ,have I shed a few tears listening to that song. :TU: :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 23:01
by kikibalt

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 23:03
by dagosd2000

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 23:04
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3VrlaAcaY

Beto Vasquez and Angelica Maria singing for old times sake in the 90's. Mexico's rock n roll stars of the 60's.

Hey Frank
I used to know this gal who worked at the Blue Fox in TJ., probably Tijuana's most notorious cantina. One night I'm in there and she breaks out this photo album and there she is posing with Alberto Vasquez. Beto had a big grin an his face! :lol:
:TU: :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 23:08
by Randyman
Another Classic: "Sabor A Mi" By Eydie Gormé & Trio Los Panchos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQCo3rczB-w

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 23:13
by dagosd2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nJLO9QVTNc

Perfidia

Lupita Palomera

I learned about Mexican music in the cantinas :lol: and then something :lol: :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 23:13
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:One of my all time favorite Mexican singer
Alberto Vasquez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA6O8HXIp4U
"A Pesar De Todo"
Nice Frank, and very smooth. I wasn't familiar with him. I'll be checking out some of his other songs.

Randy :TU:
Randy..I have a CD of Alberto Vasquez singing nothing but Jose Alfredo Jimenez song, great CD. To me Vasquez is the Mexican Arthur Prysock.... :TU:..Smooth... :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 23:16
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:
Randyman wrote:This song has to be one of my all time favorites and reminds me of my father. At the right moment with the right amount of alcohol it can bring me to tears.

"Crei" By Juan Mendoza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXea6e-Vp_s
Randy
One of the most beautifull songs ever written .I have a version with "Los Tecolines." Man ,have I shed a few tears listening to that song. :TU: :bow:
I hear you!These songs are similar in effect to the old Irish drinking songs; "Danny Boy", etc....
Guaranteed to produce tears!

Randy :(

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 25 Jan 2010, 23:18
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:This song has to be one of my all time favorites and reminds me of my father. At the right moment with the right amount of alcohol it can bring me to tears.

"Crei" By Juan Mendoza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXea6e-Vp_s
"Crei" reminds me of my mother and father in-law, they both loved that song, Tina and Alfonso Martinez...May they both R.I.P.... :bow: