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I hate everyone who's patriotic, english, scottish, irish, welsh, yanks, frogs.

Nuggets who go around saying I'm proud to be this and proud to be that is exactly how nazi germany was created. I'm human but happen to fall under the british flag.

banjo wrote:I hate everyone who's patriotic, english, scottish, irish, welsh, yanks, frogs.

Nuggets who go around saying I'm proud to be this and proud to be that is exactly how nazi germany was created. I'm human but happen to fall under the british flag.

In a way i agree with you but if your from Ireland or wherever you are going to have a connection with the people who grew up with you and in a small country like Ireland you want all the boxers to win, that is why you will rarely hear an Irish boxing fan wanting an irish fighter to lose . In England its different because the place is slightly bigger. Ive lived all over Ireland and the attitudes/outlook of people are very similar . Except for cork people who think it should be a separate state maybe like Cornwall , ridiculous

the reason "irish" fighters fight for the british title is too move up the rankings simple as that , i dont think it has anything to do with being irish or british its purley a way to move up the euro rankings ,

doctorboxing wrote:

finchy36 wrote:dr. - fair comment - Just read back my own post and it does read like contradiction

finchy36 wrote:Actually I take that back. It's not me being contradicting

*sigh*

Poor old finchy doesn't sound too bright does he...

There are plenty of Irish boxers from Northern Ireland who will fight for the British title just to enhance their career............so what ?
The Londsdale belt is probably the most difficult national belt to obtain(bar maybe the Japanese at lower weights), and fighting for it guarantees good opposition, media coverage, and progression in the rankings. It's a well respected title and if those eligible to fight for it want to take advantage of that then that's their choice. There have been non Irish fighter, who are from Britain either who have used the British title for their own gain. Anyone want to tell me Ajose Olusegun feels primarily British ?
Then you've fighters like Matthew Macklin who are proud of their dual nationality, did people begrudge him winning the British Middleweight title ?

I don't know about Lindsay's situation personally, so I can't say why he fought for the belt.
However I will say boxing is a great unifying force in Ireland, where it doesn't matter what background you come from, Nationalist/Unionists/Catholic/Protestant/traveller/non-traveller/Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland, when it comes to boxing everyone's together, that's the way it is and that's the way it should be .

BigEars wrote:There are plenty of Irish boxers from Northern Ireland who will fight for the British title just to enhance their career............so what ?
The Londsdale belt is probably the most difficult national belt to obtain(bar maybe the Japanese at lower weights), and fighting for it guarantees good opposition, media coverage, and progression in the rankings. It's a well respected title and if those eligible to fight for it want to take advantage of that then that's their choice. There have been non Irish fighter, who are from Britain either who have used the British title for their own gain. Anyone want to tell me Ajose Olusegun feels primarily British ?
Then you've fighters like Matthew Macklin who are proud of their dual nationality, did people begrudge him winning the British Middleweight title ?

I don't know about Lindsay's situation personally, so I can't say why he fought for the belt.
However I will say boxing is a great unifying force in Ireland, where it doesn't matter what background you come from, Nationalist/Unionists/Catholic/Protestant/traveller/non-traveller/Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland, when it comes to boxing everyone's together, that's the way it is and that's the way it should be .

+1

Well said BE!!!!

BigEars wrote:There are plenty of Irish boxers from Northern Ireland who will fight for the British title just to enhance their career............so what ?
The Londsdale belt is probably the most difficult national belt to obtain(bar maybe the Japanese at lower weights), and fighting for it guarantees good opposition, media coverage, and progression in the rankings. It's a well respected title and if those eligible to fight for it want to take advantage of that then that's their choice. There have been non Irish fighter, who are from Britain either who have used the British title for their own gain. Anyone want to tell me Ajose Olusegun feels primarily British ?
Then you've fighters like Matthew Macklin who are proud of their dual nationality, did people begrudge him winning the British Middleweight title ?

I don't know about Lindsay's situation personally, so I can't say why he fought for the belt.
However I will say boxing is a great unifying force in Ireland, where it doesn't matter what background you come from, Nationalist/Unionists/Catholic/Protestant/traveller/non-traveller/Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland, when it comes to boxing everyone's together, that's the way it is and that's the way it should be .

Spot on mate.

You can turn this whole thing round though as well. Not just a Catholic boxer from N.I who is proud to be Irish but born in the UK/North of Ireland fighting for a British title, but there are also many Protestant boxers born in UK to N.I or ROI parents who grow up in NI or ROI and then box for the Irish title. Many Protestant NI boxers will use the Irish title as a foot up on to the ladder for the British title even though they might feel they are British and not Irish. Its all about progressing a boxers career.

I fact I know of a boxer who would class thenselves as British (ex forces) who fought for an Irish title just to help put on a show with an Irish title bout. Damn he near won too only a point in it.

We have a great one comming up; one of our Pros will fight for N.Ireland Title then, Irish title then, English Title then, (fingers crossed) British Title and he is legally able to box for them all.

BigEars wrote:There are plenty of Irish boxers from Northern Ireland who will fight for the British title just to enhance their career............so what ?
The Londsdale belt is probably the most difficult national belt to obtain(bar maybe the Japanese at lower weights), and fighting for it guarantees good opposition, media coverage, and progression in the rankings. It's a well respected title and if those eligible to fight for it want to take advantage of that then that's their choice. There have been non Irish fighter, who are from Britain either who have used the British title for their own gain. Anyone want to tell me Ajose Olusegun feels primarily British ?
Then you've fighters like Matthew Macklin who are proud of their dual nationality, did people begrudge him winning the British Middleweight title ?

I don't know about Lindsay's situation personally, so I can't say why he fought for the belt.
However I will say boxing is a great unifying force in Ireland, where it doesn't matter what background you come from, Nationalist/Unionists/Catholic/Protestant/traveller/non-traveller/Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland, when it comes to boxing everyone's together, that's the way it is and that's the way it should be .

Pitty i cant Spell, thats exactly what i was thinking
Well Said........