Re: Top Three Chins in Post War History?
Posted: 09 May 2009, 19:24
Bruce Forsyth
Stephen Morrissey
and so on
Stephen Morrissey
and so on
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Bruce Forsyth
Stephen Morrissey
and so on
crusader wrote:David Tua. Fought big hitters like Ibeabuchi, Lewis, Maskaev, Rahman, and Izon, and was never hurt or knocked down.
He did start to cry in the ring thoboxerbob wrote:1. oliver mccall - never seen him hurt , rocked , nothing , best chin of all time
confirmation wrote:VItali Klitschko deserves an honourable mention. Took an absolute humdinger of an uppercut flush from Lewis.
fair enough but only sanders has had him looking unorganized and we know the power sanders had. however, vitali hasn't proved his chin as in the top 3 of all time of course.Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:He did start to cry in the ring thoboxerbob wrote:1. oliver mccall - never seen him hurt , rocked , nothing , best chin of all time
confirmation wrote:VItali Klitschko deserves an honourable mention. Took an absolute humdinger of an uppercut flush from Lewis.
No, Vitali Klitschko does not deserve an "honourable mention" in a list containing the best 3 chins of all time
So? It doesn't matter if they were Mike Tyson, they're big punchers and they never hurt Tua. Lewis never hurt him. Tua wasn't in trouble at any point in that bout and was on solid legs for the entire duration, the reason he was on the outside was because Lewis jabbed the s hit out of him. The fact that he took a big right from Lewis, one of the best right hand punchers of all time and remained steady is a testament to his chin. He took shot after shot from Ibeabuchi all night long and never moved an inch, the guy had some great whiskers.Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:crusader wrote:David Tua. Fought big hitters like Ibeabuchi, Lewis, Maskaev, Rahman, and Izon, and was never hurt or knocked down.
Yeah but after Lennox smashed him with a big right very early in the fight, Tua spent the rest of the evening as far away from Lennox as is possible.
He was plenty hurt in that fight
None of the rest of your list are exactly 1988 Mike Tyson's, either
Heh, you missed Jimmy Hill out if we're going down that path. 8) :idea:Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Bruce Forsyth
Stephen Morrissey
and so on
I thought we were talking about their professional careers? I will bet that most of the other guys listed got stopped when they were young guys in the amateurs as well. Tua had not developed into the big strong HW he became. He got hits with loads of hard shots like that in the pros and was never in trouble. What fault do you find in his chin as a pro that prevents him from being mentioned in this thread?chinny wrote:David Tua should not be mentioned in this thread, albeit this was vs an ATG amateur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3JRgun7wG8
crusader wrote:I thought we were talking about their professional careers? I will bet that most of the other guys listed got stopped when they were young guys in the amateurs as well. Tua had not developed into the big strong HW he became. He got hits with loads of hard shots like that in the pros and was never in trouble. What fault do you find in his chin as a pro that prevents him from being mentioned in this thread?chinny wrote:David Tua should not be mentioned in this thread, albeit this was vs an ATG amateur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3JRgun7wG8
No, I am also basing it on other fights that you are overlooking. He traded toe to toe with Ike Ibeabuchi for twelve rounds and was never hurt. He took hard shots from big punchers Rahman, Maskaev, and Izon for long periods of time and was never hurt. And he was also in with decent hitters like Fres Oquendo and Dannell Nicholson who couldn't make him take a step back, at at no time in his career against any opponent did he ever get unsteady or show any type of obvious tell that a hurt fighter would display.Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:crusader wrote:I thought we were talking about their professional careers? I will bet that most of the other guys listed got stopped when they were young guys in the amateurs as well. Tua had not developed into the big strong HW he became. He got hits with loads of hard shots like that in the pros and was never in trouble. What fault do you find in his chin as a pro that prevents him from being mentioned in this thread?chinny wrote:David Tua should not be mentioned in this thread, albeit this was vs an ATG amateur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3JRgun7wG8
Well as mentioned above, he got hit by a Lewis right hand and was so confident about his chin that he spent the next 11 rounds on the opposite side of the ring, pulling faces and pretending to throw jabs at an invisible opponent.
You are basing this Tua having a great chin argument on the fact he never went near Lennox Lewis for 11 rounds?
I'd go with this but McCullough and Jorge Castro are close behind.Syntax Error wrote:Post-war:-
1) George Chuvalo
2) Oliver McCall
3) Marvin Hagler
It was very hard to choose & I'm still not certain they're correct.
Yes he was, on the bell. Hopkins has a very good chin but he was twice floored by Sergundo Mecardo and he was in trouble Vs Antwun Echols.The quiet man 2004 wrote:Wasnt Tua floored on the bell against Rahman in their rematch. The ref didnt count it tho.
McCall for me has the greatest chin. Bernard Hopkins deserves a mention as well.
Its was more of a balance issue and he was dead tired.The quiet man 2004 wrote:Wasnt Tua floored on the bell against Rahman in their rematch. The ref didnt count it tho.
McCall for me has the greatest chin. Bernard Hopkins deserves a mention as well.
Yes, without a doubt it was underrated, at no time in his career was he hurt by anyone who wasn't considered a big puncher, usually the sign of a legit chin problem. Rahman and McCall both had cannons of right hands and they landed flush. Put almost any other HW in his shoes and the same thing would've happened. Look at the shots he took in the Klitschko fight. Sure he was bit wobbly but he was getting hit time and time again by a guy with a 97 % KO rate. People made it out like he crumpled whenever hit clean. A guy with a glass chin couldn't have survived some of the guys he fought.The quiet man 2004 wrote:But the Mercado fight was at altitude with little preperation from Hopkins.
What about Lennox Lewis guys? Im not saying he has the best chin but to only go down twice in a career where he fought some awesome punchers, dyou not think his chin is somewhat unfairly criticised.
There is a cracking youtube compilation video that denounces the 'lennox lewis was chinny' myth.The quiet man 2004 wrote:But the Mercado fight was at altitude with little preperation from Hopkins.
What about Lennox Lewis guys? Im not saying he has the best chin but to only go down twice in a career where he fought some awesome punchers, dyou not think his chin is somewhat unfairly criticised.