BoxRec

It was an excellent result for Barker.

But - his opponent got up and wasn't even given a chance to continue. He doesn't fight well up close, as tyson said. Barker ducks far too low when pressured, almost as if he wants to hide somewhere. This is a very bad habit - his eyes are off his opponent, probably looking at the floor. Someone will drop him, maybe even knock him out if he does this at a higher level.

Also, he throws his right hand too high, and sometimes reaches in too far with the right - leaving him open to a counter.

That said, he got better as the fight went on. He steadily put his shots together better, built a rhythm, and scored the knockdown/stoppage. Classy shots in spurts. Though I think he might be better using speed and movement - needs to be a bit smoother, but as I say, great result.

Gents,

Crack on with your personal sh*t all you want - in my opinion Matthew Macklin will walk right through Darren Barker and the opponents I have named in the post at the top of the thread will do the same - or is it simply the case that boxrec you have to agree on everything and cannot have a difference of opinion.

I have wrote the title of this thread in my diary - we will revisit it and then we will see who is right and wrong !!

"Confirmation" - you go on about me being banned from forums - young chap do not make me laugh? - is it simply the case your previous name on this forum was "search" and you were banned for your sickening comments concerning Ricky Hatton - please for the rest of the forum who doubt me - just do a "search" on the facility that is showing on the top right hand corner of the forum and you will see it got spotted very early on when "confirmation" first appeared on the forum - in addition "search!" is it true you personally threatened my family by PM - come on Search be a man and admit you have been exposed yet again!!!

Forum - It makes me laugh how you lot criticise Carl Froch and yet you champion Darren Barker - who incidentally yet to prove anything other than a victory against McDermott - we will see who is right and wrong and then move onto another subject - Again - Darren Barker has yet to prove himself at world level yet some of you are stating he is world class - some of you are having wet dreams about Barker over a win against McDermott - hardly conclusive evidence is it? - yet some say I am not a boxing fan!!!

Like I say I am big enough to admit when and if I get my thoughts concerning Barker wrong - but I doubt I will!!!

Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker Barker. Well done Darren Barker. That shut a few people up. Now just go on about your buisness, and let people say what they want and just keep proving them wrong.

what's with the defensiveness and the chip on the shoulder, with barker/barker's fans?

where are all these so-called naysayers and harsh critics?

last night when he said that ppl said he can't punch. who said he can't punch?

many of us rate him as a good prospect, he had a good result last night and ppl respect him for wanting to go for respectable titles. it's not like anyone has gone and said he's a pile of shit, is it?

Even if Pavlik and AA move up to super middleweight a division that ,once Kessler gets out of his current contract, will own.

I think Daniel Jacobs is going to run the middle weight division, barker is a solid boxer but there was nothing there to make him a superstar.

daniel jacobs is ok, so far he's been knocking out the same fat mexicans in round one...ooops, he got some rds last time. really unimpressed the way his career has progressed, knockover job after another on PPV undercards. does that build his boxing, does that raise his profile?

i think korobov and pirog look better, more purposeful career; zbik seems to have the right connections, as he's the next WBO mandatory, but IMO he's not as good as those 2

Autobarn wrote:daniel jacobs is ok, so far he's been knocking out the same fat mexicans in round one...ooops, he got some rds last time. really unimpressed the way his career has progressed, knockover job after another on PPV undercards. does that build his boxing, does that raise his profile?

i think korobov and pirog look better, more purposeful career; zbik seems to have the right connections, as he's the next WBO mandatory, but IMO he's not as good as those 2

I think the main problem is theres so many eastern block fighters on the scene its hard to keep up with whos who.

Although from what i hear from the americans - Jacobs is a big name over there same with chris Arreolla as up and comers. chris arreolla however is a bum in my opinion but he's the best chance the yanks have of getting a US heavyweight champion, so they all love the guy!

Spud wrote:

Gents,

Crack on with your personal sh*t all you want - in my opinion Matthew Macklin will walk right through Darren Barker and the opponents I have named in the post at the top of the thread will do the same - or is it simply the case that boxrec you have to agree on everything and cannot have a difference of opinion.

I have wrote the title of this thread in my diary - we will revisit it and then we will see who is right and wrong !!

"Confirmation" - you go on about me being banned from forums - young chap do not make me laugh? - is it simply the case your previous name on this forum was "search" and you were banned for your sickening comments concerning Ricky Hatton - please for the rest of the forum who doubt me - just do a "search" on the facility that is showing on the top right hand corner of the forum and you will see it got spotted very early on when "confirmation" first appeared on the forum - in addition "search!" is it true you personally threatened my family by PM - come on Search be a man and admit you have been exposed yet again!!!

Forum - It makes me laugh how you lot criticise Carl Froch and yet you champion Darren Barker - who incidentally yet to prove anything other than a victory against McDermott - we will see who is right and wrong and then move onto another subject - Again - Darren Barker has yet to prove himself at world level yet some of you are stating he is world class - some of you are having wet dreams about Barker over a win against McDermott - hardly conclusive evidence is it? - yet some say I am not a boxing fan!!!

Like I say I am big enough to admit when and if I get my thoughts concerning Barker wrong - but I doubt I will!!!

I have said before that I am search and formerly lirva.

As for the rest of your post, nobody takes any of your posts seriously as its clear you are a hanger-on and if you were working for hennessy you would be saying the exact opposite of what you are saying. You have shown that you can quickly change opinion based on who you are or are not working for (as a hanger-on/teaboy I might add).

confirmation wrote: I have said before that I am search and formerly lirva.

As for the rest of your post, nobody takes any of your posts seriously as its clear you are a hanger-on and if you were working for hennessy you would be saying the exact opposite of what you are saying. You have shown that you can quickly change opinion based on who you are or are not working for (as a hanger-on/teaboy I might add).

Search, Lirva, Confirmation!!!

Yawn yawn - clutching at straws - giving it the nobody takes notice - in a vain and pathetic attempt to get others on side - in reality you do not have an ounce of boxing knowledge!!!

As for what I would be saying if I were working for a particular promoter or whatever - what on earth does that have to do with this thread - you will see on this thread I have given some reasons why I do not think Darren Barker is a world class boxer - I have listed a number of opponents he should face - I have stated I think Matthew Macklin beats Barker every day of the week - yet your boxing knowledge extends as far enough to slag me off - where my allegiences lie or whatever have absolutely no relevance to this thread at all!!!

Why dont you and the ever dwindling group of others come back at me with good reasoned boxing debate - but you can't - one because you are a stupid **** and secondly you have no boxing knowledge to back things up.

Next please!!!

Finally to the moderators - if you found grounds to ban "Search" - why on earth is he allowed to post as confirmation?? - why waste your time banning him in the first place if you were not going to keep him away!!!

Search or whatever - you are the one who made those sickening and inexcusable remarks about Hatton - you are a ****!! and people should remember what you have stated!!!

yep, if macklin uppercuted him, barker would be in trouble lurching down that way

It's a fight that should happen, that's the bottom line. Then we can all see who wins. It's a good test for the both of them and it will help the pressure of a fight like that will help the winner in making the next step.

they probably both have ideas where they want to advance their careers. IMO a fight between the two is a bit risky at this stage, with boxing how it is.

Good performance by Barker and I'm not sure he's 100% cert world class but he's a bloody good fighter and the European title is within reach. I would love to see him square off with Macklin, although I'm not so sure I share Spud's confidence in Macklin; in fact I would tentatively back Barker to beat him.

As for the commentary, after round 2 I did hear Duke say: "The fans are being treated to a small hall classic"

Not sure I agree on that one.

steve689 wrote:Good performance by Barker and I'm not sure he's 100% cert world class but he's a bloody good fighter and the European title is within reach. I would love to see him square off with Macklin, although I'm not so sure I share Spud's confidence in Macklin; in fact I would tentatively back Barker to beat him.

Hey Steve no problems you disagreeing mate - Barker was going on about people doubting his power - I do!! - anyone and I mean anyone who got caught by the shot McDermott did would have gone down and any boxer throwing that shot whether he is a puncher or not - would have put the opponent down.

It was a very good domestic performance by Barker - very good indeed - but world class he certainly is not and he would have severe problems against some of the best in Europe who in my opinion would walk right through him.

I do not believe I am disrespecting Barker one little bit - I just believe Macklin beats him and there are others in Europe who would do the same and thus my thoughts are Darren Barker is not a world class boxer - no where near it!!

Spud wrote:
Finally to the moderators - if you found grounds to ban "Search" - why on earth is he allowed to post as confirmation?? - why waste your time banning him in the first place if you were not going to keep him away!!!

Spud, first most of the mods cannot have banning powers... and secondly what about second chances... not as if "Spud" has been your only user name also.

stujones wrote:

Spud wrote:
Finally to the moderators - if you found grounds to ban "Search" - why on earth is he allowed to post as confirmation?? - why waste your time banning him in the first place if you were not going to keep him away!!!

Spud, first most of the mods cannot have banning powers... and secondly what about second chances... not as if "Spud" has been your only user name also.

Cheers Stu, at the end of the day, I contribute to the board, I have about 4-5000 posts since it started. i do round by round threads when i can. i PM streams to people on the boards. I enjoy this board indeed and the level of discussion and intelligence is country miles higher than on any other boxing board i have found. Also, at least I am consistant in my views.

stujones wrote:

Spud wrote:
Finally to the moderators - if you found grounds to ban "Search" - why on earth is he allowed to post as confirmation?? - why waste your time banning him in the first place if you were not going to keep him away!!!

Spud, first most of the mods cannot have banning powers... and secondly what about second chances... not as if "Spud" has been your only user name also.

Regardless of what names I posted under years ago - not one got banned from this forum - no was there any cause to.

You are one of the ones who has a clear agenda against me and you are one of the ones who fails to answer one single question other than to slag me off!!!

Search got banned - so why is he allowed to come back on here using another name when he has made no apology about the disgusting Hatton comments and the threats towards my family?

Go on answer the questions instead of clearly avoiding them?? - you or anyone else can avoid the obvious other than to continually insult me and worse still my family!!!

confirmation wrote:

stujones wrote:

Spud wrote:
Finally to the moderators - if you found grounds to ban "Search" - why on earth is he allowed to post as confirmation?? - why waste your time banning him in the first place if you were not going to keep him away!!!

Spud, first most of the mods cannot have banning powers... and secondly what about second chances... not as if "Spud" has been your only user name also.

Cheers Stu, at the end of the day, I contribute to the board, I have about 4-5000 posts since it started. i do round by round threads when i can. i PM streams to people on the boards. I enjoy this board indeed and the level of discussion and intelligence is country miles higher than on any other boxing board i have found. Also, at least I am consistant in my views.

Consistant in your disgusting views about Hatton - is that an excuse?

If you have something to say to me from now on mate, do it through PMs. I will not respond to your comments on the board as you are polluting the boards with this sh*te.

I am not condoning personal insults, and i have deleted threads in the past on your request cause you found them personally insulting and I agreed with your view on it... To your credit you have been very appreciative of this.

I do not have the powers to decide who can or cannot post on here, neither do most of the mods... so thats the answer to your qestion why was he aloud back. I don't know simple as, Ask Shep and Law if you feel aggreived - I am sure they will listen or at least give you answers. Just be nice if you BOTH kept your personal war away from the public view.

Just because I said "2nd chance" doesn't mean I am taking his side or condoning what he did. I seriously thought we put our little spat in the past... and I thought you might have empathised with "2nd chance" - because of that, you've given me one, and I've given you one.... If confirmation is continually threatening you and your family via PM then I am sure John/Law will listen, all I was asking was to try and discuss it via PM.... the other mods can maybe discuss this situation privately with those too if you want, but ultimately not our decision.

stujones wrote:I am not condoning personal insults, and i have deleted threads in the past on your request cause you found them personally insulting and I agreed with your view on it... To your credit you have been very appreciative of this.

I do not have the powers to decide who can or cannot post on here, neither do most of the mods... so thats the answer to your qestion why was he aloud back. I don't know simple as, Ask Shep and Law if you feel aggreived - I am sure they will listen or at least give you answers. Just be nice if you BOTH kept your personal war away from the public view.

Just because I said "2nd chance" doesn't mean I am taking his side or condoning what he did. I seriously thought we put our little spat in the past... and I thought you might have empathised with "2nd chance" - because of that, you've given me one, and I've given you one.... If confirmation is continually threatening you and your family via PM then I am sure John/Law will listen, all I was asking was to try and discuss it via PM.... the other mods can maybe discuss this situation privately with those too if you want, but ultimately not our decision.

Stu,

Points taken on board!! - I was wrong to have a pop at you - but my main point is if the moderators or shep had cause to ban "Search" for his disgusting behaviour then why let him post as "Confirmation" - its a very simple and very basic question!!!

If Boxrec had no justifable reason to ban him then why not let him carry on posting as "Search" - but you and other members of the board were disgusted with what he wrote - yet somehow I am getting it in the neck.

Double standards and a pointless exercise in banning "Search" in the first place!!

Because he's obviously using a proxy IP address.

Barker did well, it was a decent performance over the 4 rounds, the ref stopped it too soon but Barker was outclassing him. I see McDermott as decent British level and nothing more though. Barker is tidy but doesn't convince me that he'll have the power to deal with someone like Macklin.

banjo wrote:Because he's obviously using a proxy IP address.

Thats what he must be doing.

That was a cracking performance from Barker, perhaps his most accomplished yet . He beat McDermott in practically every department and was a class above.

I was a bit disappointed in McDermott to be honest, I thought he could offer more but it was a step up and Barker was on top form last night and closed the show with a perfect right cross. Parris had yet another off-night and should have given McDermott the benefit of the doubt. That said, I couldn't see any circumstances under which McDermott would have won. Barker was just a division above the guy.

The only fight out there now for the British title is Barker v Macklin. Macklin v Elcock was huge in the midlands, but Barker v Macklin is huge in Britain and simply must happen. As far as Britain goes, this is a clash of the titans and whoever wins can rightly move on to attempt to conquer Europe.

There's no doubt Barker wants it.... over to you Macklin :??