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Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 04 Jun 2009, 13:30
by banjo
Sky have a huge range of sports to watch, they also have Nascar and Indy Cars which generate effing huge viewing figures, Sky is where it's all at.
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 04 Jun 2009, 13:45
by Coco
banjo wrote:Sky have a huge range of sports to watch, they also have Nascar and Indy Cars which generate effing huge viewing figures, Sky is where it's all at.
Except for their Friday Fight Night, I hear the standard is terrible
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 04 Jun 2009, 14:08
by Hagler2002
Coco wrote:banjo wrote:Sky have a huge range of sports to watch, they also have Nascar and Indy Cars which generate effing huge viewing figures, Sky is where it's all at.
Except for their Friday Fight Night, I hear the standard is terrible
I purely have Setanta for the boxing but I can honestly say its getting canceled tomorrow. For all the the FFN's aren't great on paper most of the time its still a good 2hr watch.
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 00:21
by Khaosai-Galaxy
banjo wrote:Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Setanta is done, gone before the new football season, i would reckon.
Horrible business plan, make people pay 10 quid a month for what they previously got included with SKY sports?
yeah, that's a sure fire bet, that is
I remember you did tell them all something like this would happen, they should have listened.
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I did (extremely drunkenly) corner Setanta Ireland's CEO, Niall Cogley, in a bar in Phnom Penh a few years ago and told him exactly where he was going wrong in both his personal life and his business.
Well i think it was Niall Cogley.... now that i think back he did suggest numerous times throughout my tirade that he wasnt, and had never heard of Sultana Sports.
hmmm
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 02:42
by DavidPayne
Spud wrote:Asterix wrote:Spud wrote:Rumours are absolutely rife at the moment about a number of things going on in boxing!!!!
Had an interesting conversation today - which is a certain TV Company has to find the funding within the next 14 days otherwise it could be curtains!!
Furthermore I also got told a certain boxing promoter who is not a sky promoter went to sky to try his best to entice Sky that a certain fight was worthy of investment.
So Setanta need money big time in 14 days and Adam Booth was trying to get Sky to buy Haye vs Klitschko, but because they wouldn't, Haye pulled out.
I'm just jumping to conclusions, because that's all I can do based on your post. Your statements are way too ambiguous.
Asterix - you can jump to all the conclusions you wish to my friend!!! :TU: :TU:
What I am stating directly concerning Setanta is that it would be a terrible shame if they were the TV company in the sh*t and they had to find funding quickly - lets make no mistake here - they have been truly fantastic for British Boxing and they have been fantastic in bringing the sport to us the fans!! - I hope they continue.
NOT BAD CONSIDERING YOU WERE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCING YOU WERE GOING TO DUMP THE CHANNEL FOR NOT AIRING FROCH V TAYLOR.
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 11:12
by alexpaterson
Really hope they dont go out of buisness as they have the best boxing on TV by a mile if they do hope SKY get Andy Kerr and Buncey
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 11:18
by REAL_DEAL
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 12:50
by Scrap
Id hate to lose Buncy, He is a must watch

Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 14:04
by Poncey
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 14:51
by whiskey
Personally after reading that, I can't see the football people wanting to do business with Setanta anymore.
It's on thing placing an order to purchase these TV rights, but it would seem that they don't have the dosh to pay for them.
I imagine they will cut Setanta out of the next bids for the next round of fixtures... unless they get some sort of guarantor / backer.
I'm surprise some of the Irish race horse magnates have not bought a slice of sultana pie ? they are worth a few hundred mill each.
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 14:54
by whiskey
banjo wrote:Sorry Mr Elitist(GOmez)
Don't you agree though that some of these footballers on £100k are not worth a fiver a week?
I bet some of the current European boxing champs have ever had a purse that earned them £100k and their camps last 8-10 weeks or so, plus all their corner fees etc.
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 14:55
by ArtOfWar
125 million for four years of Scottish football? No wonder the mugs are going under. F**king pooball gobbles up everything.

Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 14:58
by alexpaterson
I've heard if they go under ESPN might buy them its just a rumour though
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 16:06
by Coco
A friend of mine who has a good job in the Rangers set up met some of the Setanta boys about others stuff, and they told him apparently the business is good and they have the cash for the next year, but the problem is a 'blockage in the supply chain', so that Setanta are owed money and when that money comes through everything will be fine.
Nevertheless if Setanta can't service the finances, whether it is their fault or not, they will still go under
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 20:26
by Khaosai-Galaxy
ArtOfWar wrote:125 million for four years of Scottish football? No wonder the mugs are going under. F**king pooball gobbles up everything.

That figure is effing hilarious, if true
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 20:39
by n1ebf
Do me a favour. 125mil for 4 years Scottish football. No chance.
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 05 Jun 2009, 21:30
by fluxstuff
football is the biggest waste of the term "sport" ever
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 02:12
by banjo
fluxstuff wrote:football is the biggest waste of the term "sport" ever
Is that so?
By far the biggest sport on the planet and it's the "biggest waste of the term sport ever"
ho ho ho.
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 02:15
by banjo
G0mez wrote:banjo wrote:Sorry Mr Elitist(GOmez)
Don't you agree though that some of these footballers on £100k are not worth a fiver a week?
I bet some of the current European boxing champs have ever had a purse that earned them £100k and their camps last 8-10 weeks or so, plus all their corner fees etc.
I don't think any sportsman is worth what they earn and I include boxers in that too, but it's the way the business side of sport works and in this day and age you are paid what the big boys think you are worth.
I just find it hilarious when people are blaming football for everything but of course we live in an age where blaming somebody else is the norm don't we?
Boxing hardly gets any coverage because of the promoters, they don't do enough to make any connection with the mainstream audience. Ask 100 random people to name some British boxers and I guarantee you that the vast majority will say Bruno, Benn, Eubank, Lewis, Hatton, Hamed, Khan and Calzaghe. You bring up the names like Froch, Murray, Witter, Skelton, Thaxton or Derry Matthews and they'll stand there like you are talking in a different language.
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 04:51
by The_Don1
anyone know their deal with Sauerland is off? Arthur Abraham's due to fight on June 27th...no mention of it on the Setanta schedule...nor did they televise Povetkin's last fight on may 26th.
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 05:33
by gobbles
The_Don1 wrote:anyone know their deal with Sauerland is off? Arthur Abraham's due to fight on June 27th...no mention of it on the Setanta schedule...nor did they televise Povetkin's last fight on may 26th.
What last fight on May 26?
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 12:51
by The_Don1
gobbles wrote:The_Don1 wrote:anyone know their deal with Sauerland is off? Arthur Abraham's due to fight on June 27th...no mention of it on the Setanta schedule...nor did they televise Povetkin's last fight on may 26th.
What last fight on May 26?
my bad, I was reading off the UKTV schedule thread, looks like it was screened on 26th may by eurosport, but the fight took place in april.
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 13:07
by Spud
banjo wrote: Boxing hardly gets any coverage because of the promoters, they don't do enough to make any connection with the mainstream audience.
Unfortunately - as much as I love the sport of boxing - your line above is absolutely spot on!!!
I went to another EBF (Unlicensed show) last Saturday - the standard of boxing was shite in comparison to the professional ranks - however - the place was filled to the brim - f*cking brilliant atmosphere - and everyone of the 11 fights there was 2 fighters leathering each other - so the crowd went onto the local night clubs content their money was well spent!!! - can you always say that if you go to a professional show - or whether you watch it on TV?
Professional Boxing is very very close indeed to getting an almighty kick up the arse it needs - TV drying up means that the promoters are going to have to get their fingers out to ensure their "product" is appealing to the public which is becoming increasingly skint due to whats happening and thus they are going to "pick and choose" what they spend their money on carefully - I am really getting p*ssed with the professional side of things because no one will simply acknowledge there is a problem!!! - you ask a professional promoter - he will tell you there is nothing to worry about.
So with that said - what the f*ck are TV going to say when a promoter comes knocking at the door?
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 13:40
by sgtcecil
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:Do me a favour. 125mil for 4 years Scottish football. No chance.
when i heard that this deal was agreed with the SPL and setanta, i knew it would be too good to be true. a few clubs will struggle (hopefully not kilmarnock, skint as it is with TV cash!)
setanta's coverage of boxing was good IMO. i can understand that people are shocked at the amount agreed for this particular deal but i reckon their subscription figures are good up here in scotland due to the amount of old firm fans up here that subscribe and a few exiled in england. that may be why they agreed to pay a lot for scottish football. remember the SPL was the first sport on the channel and the initial sucess of the channel was to a great extent due to the SPL
Re: Setanta in trouble ?
Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 15:02
by steve689
The_Don1 wrote:anyone know their deal with Sauerland is off? Arthur Abraham's due to fight on June 27th...no mention of it on the Setanta schedule...nor did they televise Povetkin's last fight on may 26th.
They're advertising the Abraham fight on Setanta Ireland, which on a different matter is a pretty poor fight IMO. Anyway...they showed Povetkin's last fight., with Estrada, but I don't think it was on May 26th.