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Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 11:26
by Counter-puncher
lefthook82 wrote:Pathetic.

Is Lawton a dcent bodypumcher?
the only time i've seen him live, in between circling furiously, covering up and tying up, he hoyed a few nasty right uppercuts into Gethin's gut.

but i still think even if murray is weak in the body lawton's best bet will be to keep moving and take chances of going to the body/throwing shots in general, when he can, rather than going looking for them. if he goes looking for the body he's playing into murray's hands by setting the distance of the fight at relatively short range.

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 11:31
by leforge
Will Thaxton fight for a vacant title go to purse bids?

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 11:39
by caffrey
my 10 quid stake on lawton to win on points at 12-1 is looking a bit better right now

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 11:48
by Counter-puncher
Terry D wrote:
Well done to Lawton, showed a lot of patience and class, he could easily have refused to wait but gave it an extra few minutes.
everyone speaks highly of Lawton :TU:

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 11:55
by alexpaterson
Poor from Murray still think he'll win the fight but he should make the weight lets hope he doesnt follow Khan up to LWW as there are lotsof exciting fights out there at LW for him

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 12:36
by bennie
Hey "Flex" (for the new horribly flexible approach to professionalism at BN), Romania's Leonard Dorin failed to make the weight for a mandatory defence of his WBA lightweight against Panama's Miguel Callist in October 2003. "The Lion" Dorin - just a pound over - went through mental and physical torture to shift the pound but the entire Bucharest show was called off and there were nervous breakdowns all round; Dorin threatened to quit while Callist fainted at the news.
Dorin moved up to light-welterweight but was never the same.
Take a tip, this is the stuff you should be writing - same division, same agonies, same prospective damage...

By the way are you bringing out an archive edition for your centenary? Rumour has it the front page will look worse than this mag.


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Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 12:41
by sweetscience
did flex take bennies job or somat ?

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 12:55
by Poncey
Dunno, but I may have to start editing posts if it continues.

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 13:00
by bennie
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Dunno, but I may have to start editing posts if it continues.
Now, that really is irony. Offer your editing skills to the one who needs them.

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 13:04
by Poncey
:neutral:

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 13:05
by banjo
God I love this forum

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 13:07
by Poncey
As I said yesterday mate, like a Mothers coffee morning.

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 13:09
by bennie
"Flexible approach to subbing" once asked me for some constructive advice and he's getting it.

He needs it.

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 13:11
by Poncey
But is a public forum the correct place for it?

It comes across as a little Mark Hamill.

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 13:31
by Coco
I find Bennie's and Flexen's little spats quite entertaining, they are both man enough to fight their own corners!

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 13:39
by whicker
Sorry to be dumb, but I assume if Lawton wins, he DOES get the belt?

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 13:46
by sweetscience
bennie wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Dunno, but I may have to start editing posts if it continues.
Now, that really is irony. Offer your editing skills to the one who needs them.
:TU:

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 14:14
by Autobarn
bennie wrote:
Hey "Flex" (for the new horribly flexible approach to professionalism at BN), Romania's Leonard Dorin failed to make the weight for a mandatory defence of his WBA lightweight against Panama's Miguel Callist in October 2003. "The Lion" Dorin - just a pound over - went through mental and physical torture to shift the pound but the entire Bucharest show was called off and there were nervous breakdowns all round; Dorin threatened to quit while Callist fainted at the news.
Dorin moved up to light-welterweight but was never the same.
Take a tip, this is the stuff you should be writing - same division, same agonies, same prospective damage...

By the way are you bringing out an archive edition for your centenary? Rumour has it the front page will look worse than this mag.


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there has been so much of this recently, that anyone could be forgiven for not remembering the dorin fight.

lightweight is jinxed - Fewkes v Gethin... Guzman v Campbell, Campbell v Funeka... Castillo v Corrales 2, Corrales v Casamayor 3...

so many different scenarios, i.e. weak at weight and gets stopped, power advantage gives the edge, heavy guy slow, fight called off- and the ironies as well, with the victim first time doing it himself the next time

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 14:16
by Poncey
Coco wrote:I find Bennie's and Flexen's little spats quite entertaining, they are both man enough to fight their own corners!
Not when it breaches forum rules.

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 14:19
by Autobarn
we don't want any aggro on here

but at least bennie is getting involved these days - he used to sort of chat to himself

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 14:19
by Poncey
Autobarn wrote:but at least bennie is getting involved these days
x2

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 14:34
by Asterix
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Autobarn wrote:but at least bennie is getting involved these days
x2
I sort of agree, but I wish Bennie would talk boxing rather than attack Flexen or Boxing News.

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 14:40
by Poncey
Anyway, it's done now. Back to the purpose of the thread.

I hope John can come back from this but will be gutted if the Thaxton fight doesn't come off.

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 17:23
by pretender
maybe if Gallaher spent more time training John than moaning about him being overlooked he'd have come in on the weight. Apparently the carpet, traffic and inactivity were to blame.

Not great for someone who is constantly telling us how thorough he is that he couldn't get the traffic or the thickness of the carpet right!

Looks like Tony Jeffries made the right call. I haven't seen any improvement in John Murray in a long time and it's a shame coz he has talent but at the moment it's hard to see him going much further

Re: John Murray loses title on scales

Posted: 12 Jun 2009, 17:55
by TheGoods
I don't think Murray will be dead at the weight. Not like he was well over or couldn't shift it after trying for ages. It's a setback for him no doubt but I still fancy him to pagger Lawton tomorrow.