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BoxBuzz wrote:
.. I have contributed to some trivia along the way via my brother, so's to escape your critical retorts. But just so's you know, you said very nice things, agreed and considered me a genius for being in agreement with you...

Aha! So you are the immortal BERNARD BRIGGS!

Collins2000 wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:
.. I have contributed to some trivia along the way via my brother, so's to escape your critical retorts. But just so's you know, you said very nice things, agreed and considered me a genius for being in agreement with you...

Aha! So you are the immortal BERNARD BRIGGS!

Not Guilty,,and it was many years ago, back when my brother had an account here....in the infancy of our little oasis. Before I knew what a master of all things pugil you were.

Do not drag our honorable guest Bernard's name into this and associate him with the likes of a humble student such as myself.

The Modern era starts when you are 13 years old.

BoxBuzz wrote:
Before I knew what a master of all things pugil you were.

Never claimed to be a master of all thing to do with boxing.

I don't believe any such animal exists since Baz died.

I have picked up a few snippets of info in the 30 years I have been following the game. That's all.

But even that meagre amount of knowledge is more than most of the twats in here possess. With a few notable exceptions, yourself NOT included.

Collins2000 wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:
Before I knew what a master of all things pugil you were.

Never claimed to be a master of all thing to do with boxing.

I don't believe any such animal exists since Baz died.

I have picked up a few snippets of info in the 30 years I have been following the game. That's all.

But even that meagre amount of knowledge is more than most of the twats in here possess. With a few notable exceptions, yourself NOT included.

We always remain ever humble, a student only.

However..just for the record....bazz lives

BoxBuzz wrote:

Collins2000 wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:
Before I knew what a master of all things pugil you were.

Never claimed to be a master of all thing to do with boxing.

I don't believe any such animal exists since Baz died.

I have picked up a few snippets of info in the 30 years I have been following the game. That's all.

But even that meagre amount of knowledge is more than most of the twats in here possess. With a few notable exceptions, yourself NOT included.

We always remain ever humble, a student only.

However..just for the record....bazz lives

They say "when the student is ready, the master will appear". So be prepared. But remember what it says in the bible (and the koran) about the arrival of the false prophet who leads the simple-minded astray...

Bazza lives? That's good to hear. Has he given up pugilistic pontification? I recall nothing here or at the CBZ since his hilarious "I'm back!" post at least 12 months ago.

Also, do you know if Ken Hawk is still alive? As an expert on Aaron Pryor I am sure you know to whom I allude.

no expert ... but to me it always looks odd the
way knock downs were handled in the "old" days.
like dempsey-willard. dempsey being allowed to
hitting him immediately when jess was standing
on his feet ...

don't know when that change happened officially,
must have been in the twenties ... to me it seems
that the whole thing became more formalized and
the referee got the say ...

I'd say the truly modern era begins with the advent of Day-before weigh-ins for all classes ecxept Heavyweight. I mean come on, you can't compare an all-time great Featherweight who probably never broke 130 lbs. in the ring after weighing in at 126 like Willie Pep and some monster water-draining freak like Manny Pacquiao who was really a Light Welterweight at "126" and is now damn near 150 in optimal fighting shape. Hell, ex-flyweights Nonito Donaire, Hugo Cazares, and Fernando Montiel are about Pep's size if not heavier.

an interesting topic to debate and one that agreement is never to be reached. to define modern would in itself take some time to get an agreement. However we could more easily define and identify significant turning points such as when Tex Rickard radically changed the financial side of boxing and the impact that has had on the improvemnts in the health and stamina. Then the slow erosion of drawing the colour line. The tv showing of fights -to what extent this led to more "athletic" for want of a better term, rather than flat footed toe to toe.Its like we say a guy was a fighter not a boxer and the more exotic term of science. I am sure you will love picking holes guys and please do all in fun I hope