Some Great Fights That Should Have Happened But Never Did

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Hearns/McCallum.
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Zaragoza/McKinney.
Zaragoza/Vazquez.
Zaragoza/Bungu.
Vazquez/McKinney.
Vazquez/Bungu.
Patterson/McKinney.
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Chavez/Randall III either in late 94 or 95.
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RJJ/B-Hop II (in 2002 or so instead of 2010).
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Macho/Rosario II.
Rosario/Davis II.
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Serrano/Escalera.
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Hagler/Valdez.
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Carbajal/Sorjaturong.
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Oscar/Ike II.
Ike/Lopez II.
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StingLikeABee wrote:1: Lennox Lewis Vs. Riddick Bowe

When they should have fought: 1993.

Why the fight should have happened and what would have happened had it done so:

This heavyweight clash could well have been a classic. Also, for two other big reasons the fight should have taken place - 1: it would have resulted in a unification of all three major heavyweight titles, 2: these two guys hated each other! (you could also add a third reason, stating that the fight would have been a rematch - what with Lennox and Riddick having met at the '92 Olympics).

Lewis would have been my pick to win, but it wouldn't have been easy. Not yet with ace trainer Emanuel Steward and also still to work on improving things such as his balance and footwork, Lewis would have been in with a peak "Big Daddy," one who was coming off a sensational showing against Evander Holyfield - a far greater fighter than anyone Lewis had on his own resume at the time.

My pick: Lewis by KO

Back in and around '93, Lewis was struggling with men like Tony Tucker and Frank Bruno - two heavies who were no way near as gifted as Bowe was. Also, Bowe was a very good inside fighter - who had Lewis met that was as adept at this art form back then? On the flip side, Bowe, as we know now, had already peaked and he would never again put on a show to match his epic win over Holyfield. Lewis, the more disciplined fighter, would have pushed himself harder in pursuit of becoming the undisputed champ (Riddick was already ballooning up between fights and slowly eating his way to a shortened career). There might have been a knockdown or two along the way - on both sides - but in the end Lewis would have prevailed in a fine fight. As for no knockout - remember, no-one ever KO'd Bowe, a fighter whose bravery and ability to take punishment turned out to be quite

2: Barry McGuigan Vs. Azumah Nelson

When they should have fought: 1986.

Why the fight should have happened and what would have happened had it done so:

This fight, which would have been a WBC and WBA featherweight title fight unification, would have pitted two outstanding fighters against each other. Ireland's McGuigan, the WBA 126-pound champion since his superb June, 1986 win over Eusebio Pedroza, wanted the fight; Ghana's Nelson, the WBC ruler at the same weight since KO'ing Wilfredo Gomez in December of 1984, wanted it just as badly; if not more so. As for the public and the media, the British press, for one example, wrote about this fight and how it should happen for what seemed like years!

Nelson would be my pick to win, but the battle that would have raged would have been a gem. McGuigan, with his amazing physical strength and stamina, would have pushed the harder-punching African great all the way. True, Azumah was stopping a lot of guys in late '85 and early '86, but he also was taken to a close majority verdict by the tough but ordinary Marcos Villasana in Feb. of '86. McGuigan was far more accomplished a fighter than was the Mexican, and Barry was also a good deal younger than Nelson.

My pick: Nelson by close decision.

At his peak and full of guts and heart, as well as enjoying and being inspired by an entire nation's love, adoration and unmitigated support, "The Clones Cyclone" would have given absolutely everything he had against "The Terrible Warrior." It wouldn't have been enough to have won, but Nelson would have remembered the fierce fight for a very long time. It's possible neither man would have ever been quite the same again.

3: Nigel Benn Vs. Chris Eubank III

When they should have fought: 1994.

Why the fight should have happened and what would have happened had it done so:

Talk about two guys who hated each other's guts! This was as genuine a grudge-match series as British boxing has ever seen. As such, two fights instead of three was nowhere near enough. Not only that, but fight two, which followed a superb, late round's stoppage victory for underdog Eubank, ended up being scored a draw. Also, adding to the essential qualities that simply screamed for a fight three, was the fact that both men held differing world titles. Truthfully, it really is staggering that Benn and Eubank never met for a third time.

Benn would be my pick to win, and here's why. Eubank, a fine fighter, caught an ill prepared "Dark Destroyer" in November of 1990, and he still had to get up off the floor to win. "Simply The Best" also took a fair amount of punishment in the first fight - even having a nasty cut opened under his tongue. Showing guts, Eubank came back to stop a weight drained Benn, whose eye had been hammered shut, in the 9th. In fight two, which took so long to make and was up at super-middleweight, Benn was 100-percent ready. The draw fooled no-one, and Benn was the victim of a poor decision that caused much controversy. Had a third fight gone ahead, Benn, once again knowing he had the stuff needed to see off the man he was so motivated to defeat, would have pounded out a clear points win - which many people said he did in fight two anyway.

My pick: Benn by commanding decision.

Benn was stronger up at 168-pounds, and from November, '90 to the September, '93 return his form was excellent. Stopping all but three of his ten victims, Benn was on a roll. Conversely, Eubank was looking a tired fighter during this period. Chris scraped by with two close and debatable points wins after the draw with Benn (against Graciano Rocchigiani and Ray Close) and before the draw with Nigel he'd been held to one by Ireland's Close in their first meeting. Had they met for a third go, Eubank would have gone home with his first loss attached to his pro record.

4: George Foreman Vs. Mike Tyson

When they should have fought: 1990.

Why the fight should have happened and what would have happened had it done so:

This fight that wasn't to be had had people talking in excited tones since 1988, a year or so into Foreman's surprising comeback. During this time, practically any issue of either Ring, KO or Boxing Monthly magazine you picked up had either an article about this prospective fight, or a letter or three sent in by fans talking about it. And when "Big "George starched Gerry Cooney in impressive fashion in early 1990, and then, the following month, "Iron" Mike lost his cloak of invincibility due to being put to sleep by James "Buster" Douglas, the fight was seen as a tough one to call. In short, everyone wanted to see it, and the fight would have made both men and all other people involved with it millions and millions of dollars. This monster of a fight would have been an EVENT. As one promoter who was doing business at the time put it when talking about this Dream Fight, "What fu***ng excitement!"

This one would have had a good shot at being short and sweet. A battle between two of heavyweight history's biggest bangers, Tyson-Foreman would also have been, as Ring magazine put it, a clash between the immovable object (Foreman) and the irresistible force (Tyson). Would old man George have been able to have timed one of Mike's rushes and clobbered him with a bomb as he came at him? Or would Tyson have snapped Foreman's head back with lightening fast combos? Or perhaps another scenario would have unfolded. What we know now about what Tyson was capable of doing when discouraged (quit, bite or foul some other way - basically lose heart) makes is possible that, had he hit Foreman with his best shots and not gotten rid of him, Mike may have looked for a way out. Remember, there have since been stories that have surfaced telling us how Mike was not in favour of fighting Foreman, telling Don King that he was not getting in the ring with "that animal."

My Pick: Foreman by mid-rounds KO.

It would have been hellish for Foreman in the first three rounds or so and, depending on who the referee was, a TKO win may well have been awarded to Tyson. If, however, a third man was appointed who was prepared to allow Foreman to take severe early-rounds punishment, Tyson would have ran out of gas and ran out of confidence. And we know what a rock for a head George had! Staggered a number of times and cut and swollen he would have been, but the phenomenally tough old warhorse who ruled his weight class in the 1970s would have taken his lumps, only to come though the pain and get Tyson out of there around the 7th or 8th round. Would Tyson have quit? Maybe. If not he'd have been knocked flat. In short, Tyson wanted nothing to do with Foreman.
Nelson would've mashed McGuigan.
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Moorer v. Hill and Williams.
Hill v. Williams.
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Pedroza/Taylor II.
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Juanma/Caballero in a unification at 122.
Caballero said he was going to slap Lopez like a cheap whore.
There was even talk of an HBO bout in early 2010. Lopez instead moved up and fought Luevano.
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Esparragoza/Nelson, Fenech and Paez.
Fenech/Paez.
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Johnson/Arbachukov and Romero.
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Nile4000 wrote:Cervantes-Duran
Pryor-Mamby
Dokes-Page
Chandler-Pintor
Louis-Bivins
Saad Muhammad-Galindez
Monzon-Hagler
Davis Jr-Kenty
Pedroza-Sanchez.
Good call on Cervantes-Duran,They really could have easily fought. Some have mentioned Pryor-Duran,but they really could'nt have fought from a feasibly idealistic standpoint,While Cervantes and Duran easily and feasibly could have !
Duran fought bunches of non title stay busy tune up bouts at 137-142 lbs all throughout his LW reign,while Cervantes was reigning in his prime at 140(Jr WW). Anytime between 73-78 would have been a great time for they're showdown imo.
After 1978,Cervantes was just too old and worn by then imo. He was 35 with over 100 fights by the time he fought Pryor in 1980. No way Duran and Pryor could've happened. Duran struggled to make 147 by 1980,let alone 140.Pryor would've never took Duran on at 147. But going back to Duran - Cervantes,I'd say this would have made an awesome trilogy(3 fights).
73,75,and then 77. I think Cevantes would manage to fight Duran to a draw in one of the three and Duran would win 2,1 by close decision and 1 by late rd tko bloodbath type battle.

My list:

Sean O'Grady-Alexis Arguello (1981) Right after O'Grady's win in the Kenty fight.
Andrew Golota-Tommy Morrison (1996) If only Morrison hadnt contracted HIV.
Jerry Quarry-Oscar Bonovena (1971) Right after both of they're 1970 losses to Ali.
Ali-Foreman II (1975)
Marciano-Patterson (1956)
Hagler-Hearns II (1986)
Gregorio Peralta-Floyd Patterson (63-67 timeframe)
Henry Cooper-Lamar Clark (62-64 timeframe)
Vitali Klitschko-Lennox Lewis II
LaMotta-Zale
LaMotta-Cerdan II
LaMotta-Graziano
Duran-Roldan
Duran-Hamsho
Duran-Bobby Chyaz(sp?)
Duran-Mathew Hilton
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What about Dempsey vs The Great Harry Greb?
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AngryGoon38 wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:Cervantes-Duran
Pryor-Mamby
Dokes-Page
Chandler-Pintor
Louis-Bivins
Saad Muhammad-Galindez
Monzon-Hagler
Davis Jr-Kenty
Pedroza-Sanchez.
Good call on Cervantes-Duran,They really could have easily fought. Some have mentioned Pryor-Duran,but they really could'nt have fought from a feasibly idealistic standpoint,While Cervantes and Duran easily and feasibly could have !
Duran fought bunches of non title stay busy tune up bouts at 137-142 lbs all throughout his LW reign,while Cervantes was reigning in his prime at 140(Jr WW). Anytime between 73-78 would have been a great time for they're showdown imo.
After 1978,Cervantes was just too old and worn by then imo. He was 35 with over 100 fights by the time he fought Pryor in 1980. No way Duran and Pryor could've happened. Duran struggled to make 147 by 1980,let alone 140.Pryor would've never took Duran on at 147. But going back to Duran - Cervantes,I'd say this would have made an awesome trilogy(3 fights).
73,75,and then 77. I think Cevantes would manage to fight Duran to a draw in one of the three and Duran would win 2,1 by close decision and 1 by late rd tko bloodbath type battle.

My list:

Sean O'Grady-Alexis Arguello (1981) Right after O'Grady's win in the Kenty fight.
Andrew Golota-Tommy Morrison (1996) If only Morrison hadnt contracted HIV.
Jerry Quarry-Oscar Bonovena (1971) Right after both of they're 1970 losses to Ali.
Ali-Foreman II (1975)
Marciano-Patterson (1956)
Hagler-Hearns II (1986)
Gregorio Peralta-Floyd Patterson (63-67 timeframe)
Henry Cooper-Lamar Clark (62-64 timeframe)
Vitali Klitschko-Lennox Lewis II
LaMotta-Zale
LaMotta-Cerdan II
LaMotta-Graziano
Duran-Roldan
Duran-Hamsho
Duran-Bobby Chyaz(sp?)
Duran-Mathew Hilton
When should Duran/Czyz have happened?
Czyz got beaten by Hamsho on the Qawi/Davis card in September 1982. Duran was busy in 83 with Hagler and Moore, and he was KO'd by Hearns in 84.
By the time Duran was into his comeback, Czyz was a light heavy titlist.
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Chicanito/Molina.
Molina/Mitchell.
Nelson/Molina.
Nelson/Chicanito (during Chicanito's first reign in 92-93).
DLH/Chicanito and Molina...at 130.
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Hagler/Hearns II
Hagler/Spinks
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I don't view a fight as one that should've happened when the two fighters weren't in the same division at the same time. In the case of Hagler/Spinks, Marv never fought as a light heavy. For instance, you never hear people lament that Chandler/Sanchez or Chandler/Pedroza never happened. Same for Monzon/Foster or Galindez.
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Hatton/Cotto.
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Rover wrote:I don't view a fight as one that should've happened when the two fighters weren't in the same division at the same time. In the case of Hagler/Spinks, Marv never fought as a light heavy. For instance, you never hear people lament that Chandler/Sanchez or Chandler/Pedroza never happened. Same for Monzon/Foster or Galindez.
People talk about Sanchez/Arguello, don't they?

There are enough people that moved up in weight to challenge the best at the next weight. Indeed Hearns, Leonard and Duran all stepped up in weight to face Marvin.

It's a fight that could have happened, Hearns himself asked Marvin if he would move up to 175 after he lost to Hagler. Hagler flatly refused and said "you do it". So he did, albeit fleetingly and a little later.
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There are thousands.
One I wanted to see back in the day was Carlos Palomino-Pipino Cuevas
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My2Sense wrote:Duran-Pryor
just thinking of this makes me consider to dust
off these time machine plans ...
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