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Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 16:58
by banjo
My word, can't take Hennessy seriously now until he gets rid of that face fungus :shame:

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 17:01
by steve689
I can't believe they are talking world titles here. O'Donnell needs to be putting this supposed world class ability to better use against sterner opposition. Glover gave his all but shouldn't really have been in there; it always had an air of Howard Eastman-Gary Beardsley about it.

I don't really know how good O'Donnell is but we keep hearing how good he is in the gym and all that but he really needs fights of substance, even a rematch with Watson tonight would have been better. Plus, Duke McKenzie really talks some nonsense.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 17:44
by tonyevs
I`m not overly convinced O`Donnell hits as hard as his record indicates .. he sure makes a noise when he punches though :roll:

O`Donnell comes across as a nice kid. But he really needs to stay clear of Kell Brook :shame:

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 18:24
by Max Molyneux
Hennessey has got to stop feeding delusions into his fighters telling the they'll be world champs and that they are world cass fighters just because they win a domestic belt.

O'Donnell is no where near it.

Brook would Ko him faster than the Mexican journeyman did.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 23:16
by Scouse Fight Fan
The O'Donnel kid looked O.K tonight, but just O.K and thats where the problem is. He looks like a showman which will be good for our domestic scene but not much more. The way that Glover lad was coming forward he was non stop and his punches seemed light at times but he seemed to throw the odd punch which made O'Donnel sit up and take notice and that was the worrying part. If someone was constantly coming at him hitting just that little bit harder than Glover would O'Donnel be able to handle it. I doubt it myself on tonights showing.

But we have to stand back and see that this was another part of the learning process for O'Donnel, and as a part of that learning process it is just another little thing to work on.

Good luck to the lad, he's fighting at the most competitive weight in world boxing and I'd love to see him go far.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 07:50
by alexpaterson
I was impressed with Purdy last night looked strong and powerful, you know your in for a good fight against McDonaugh and I think he raised his game well and fought a good fight

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 09:17
by whicker
good to see boxing back on tv, but hardly a stella show, all things considered. I know there are issues, politics etc, but other than dedicated fans of the sport I can't see who a that sort of show would appeal to.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 09:20
by TheCobra
O'Donnell looks to lack enough power to trouble anyone beyond average domestic people, I still think Watson got doneover in their fight tbh, Watson won on my card and until they rematch that then I won't have much respect for O'Donnell.

Last night was a mismatch in levels, yes Glover beat Thaxton but Thaxton is all but gone and was very undermotivated. They won't kid me with O'Donnell til they put him back in with proper domestic level opponents e.g. Watson or that level.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 10:27
by leforge
Did they say thaxton v Murray on itv4?

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 13:03
by TheCobra
leforge wrote:Did they say thaxton v Murray on itv4?
I think they did you know. They're still gona get their money's worth out of that then even if all the momentum and bite has gone out of it since Thaxton started losing and looking a bit shot. I take Murray every time and think it's just another fight for him to tick over in frustration at a lack of progression in his career.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 14:26
by hitman_hatton1
agreed with the general consensus.

talk of world titles is ludicrous concerning O'Donnell. :roll:

and watson rematch needs to happen tbh.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 20:33
by whicker
I think that ITV are instructed to "talk up" the fighter. Goes without saying, really!

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 04:27
by Lenny
I'd like to see O'Donnell against McIntyre. I really wouldn't want to try and pick a winner from that one.
Then you've got the likes of Thompson and Cox who would give him a really good arguement (would probably back them both to be honest).

Or even Mutley next, easy to arrange (or so you would expect, the mess of MH waiting far too long to set up Murray v Thaxton makes me doubt if anything is easy for this lot), bit of a name and very capable of giving O'Donnell a good fight.

Welter is a great domestic division at the moment and old Mick needs to stop talk of world titles off the back of a dodgy win over Watson and a win over the limited but game Glover when there is still plenty for him to prove.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 09:09
by THEBUTCH
I'd have no trouble predicting a winner out of O'Donnell and McIntyre. O'Donnell by stoppage.

I got the feeling O'Donnell was dragging things out against good-pro Glover, when he did open up, he looked fantastic. Didn't like the lazy spells, but I do think he was happy for the fight to last more than 3 or 4 rounds.

At this stage he's clearly got areas where good boxers will make him pay, but even if he does lose one or two more along the way, there's no reason why he can't win British, Commonwealth or EBU titles.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 09:25
by ERIC GUY
I thought O'Donnell looked very good, nice combinations,
a good atmosphere, I got there late as there was a death on M25, missed the 1st 3 fights,.
Towers looked impressive tho

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 09:29
by Lenny
I wouldn't tip O'Donnell to stop anyone at the top domestically and McIntyre is a top fighter on the domestic scene as wins over Anderson x2 and Doherty prove.

I feel he'd be a big test for O'Donnell with his boxing ability. Unfortunately if the fight was taken there would be those people slaughtering him for fighting someone Brook stopped in one

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 10:10
by THEBUTCH
True but McIntyre has shown fragility too. Beating Anderson over 12 rounds twice, you'd think, would prove he's teak tough, but I think it was more of a case of styles and he simply had Anderson's number.

Anderson would surely give Brook a right royal rumble....McIntyre collapsed in seconds.

I think the size of O'Donnell's talent would overwhelm McIntyre in 7 or 8 rounds. Would be an interesting test. Hope it happens, despite the knockers who would slate O'Donnell for not doing it as quick as Brook.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 10:22
by stujones
I aint sure why people are over criticial of the Murray vs Thaxton "mess"... Murray is the young undefeated prospect, Thaxton is the one time champion past his prime.

Sorry, but if I was in MH shoes - I know which one is the more marketable... and I would rather wait a few months/years untill I was certain the more marketable one would come through.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 10:31
by Lenny
I don't agree with that Stu. I feel they were giving Thaxton the breaks ahead of Murray who was left to fight just twice a year when he should have been building up his profile.

Getting Murray the shot at Thaxton before he loses two is good matchmaking. Yes the risk is higher, but so are the rewards. I'm certainly not as excited about the fight as I would have been before

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 10:36
by stujones
Lenny wrote:I don't agree with that Stu. I feel they were giving Thaxton the breaks ahead of Murray who was left to fight just twice a year when he should have been building up his profile.

Getting Murray the shot at Thaxton before he loses two is good matchmaking. Yes the risk is higher, but so are the rewards. I'm certainly not as excited about the fight as I would have been before
True, maybe MH doesn't have as much faith in Murray as he should have had - but can see Thaxton aint going any futher.

To be fair, I am sure Murray's managerial problems, and weight making issues (both as a "super feather" - never made this weight and now as a Lightweight) have not helped him. Maybe MH saw John as not being mature enough to handle being pushed along untill now.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 10:55
by THEBUTCH
Sorry to butt in on the Thaxton Murray debate, but whichever way you look at it, it is still a very good fight.

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 14:11
by Olivia67
can anybody tell me why no title on the line in this fight ?

Re: O'Donnell v Glover: Welterweight Warriors ready for weigh in

Posted: 09 Sep 2009, 08:59
by THEBUTCH
Don't know, can only presume Glover was deemed unworthy. Surprising considering some the Africans who've gained approval and folded terribly.

Hennessy seemed none to pleased with the way the board had gone about things too.