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Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 17:37
by Neri
Coco wrote:
Neri wrote:I'm made up Price has left Hayemaker. Hopefully he will go with Warren and get regular fights, and also bring some decent shows to Liverpool. With regular fights, the Price-Fury rivalry could be built big, that's if Tyson doesn't get beat soon!
They won't let Fury anywhere near Price, and Price is no better than top domestic standard IMO
I don't think they will let Fury near anyone close to a risk for a long while.

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 18:04
by mickey1975
whatashambles wrote:Can I ask why people think Hatton has more money than Hayemaker? The Sky deal is only a short term thing and they're not getting the sort of money Warren is. Yes they're backed by Goldenboy but so were Hayemaker.
I don't think people realise how expensive it will be getting Price fights and I don't think Hatton can afford it unless he headlines on Sky every time he fights.
because ricky is the head of the company?infinately wealthier and more powerful and popular thanhaye will EVER be

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 18:22
by Coco
mickey1975 wrote:
whatashambles wrote:Can I ask why people think Hatton has more money than Hayemaker? The Sky deal is only a short term thing and they're not getting the sort of money Warren is. Yes they're backed by Goldenboy but so were Hayemaker.
I don't think people realise how expensive it will be getting Price fights and I don't think Hatton can afford it unless he headlines on Sky every time he fights.
because ricky is the head of the company?infinately wealthier and more powerful and popular thanhaye will EVER be
Ricky has TV so it will at least pay for itself for the time being. If he needs to dip into his personal fortune to keep going, he has about 60 million quid, I doubt Haye has one million

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 04:52
by martin_g91
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:no surprise there really..
i think Hayemaker promotions will fold to be honest,anyone agree??

I agree

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 05:05
by DavidPayne
Maybe Spencer can make Matthews v Choi II?

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 05:05
by Twinkle Toes
Bit of a poor show from Hayemaker in my opinion - The apparent lack of a contingency plan is quite odd.

At least these two fighters have gotten out and can move on, not so much for Derry who had already found his level, but for Price it is massive.

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 05:21
by DavidPayne
For all those who clapped with glee at Hayemaker soundbytes; better undercards, looking after fighters, huge signing fees for fighters and their bid to change the face of boxing I think they should all doff their caps to Warren, Hennessy, Hearn and Maloney for yet further proof that promoting isn't easy, longevity even harder and perhaps remember that all that glitters aint gold.

They all have flaws. But a lack of experience isn't one of them.

And for Price the loss, essentially of a year, is atrocious.

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 05:36
by Deserter
DavidPayne wrote:For all those who clapped with glee at Hayemaker soundbytes; better undercards, looking after fighters, huge signing fees for fighters and their bid to change the face of boxing I think they should all doff their caps to Warren, Hennessy, Hearn and Maloney for yet further proof that promoting isn't easy, longevity even harder and perhaps remember that all that glitters aint gold.

They all have flaws. But a lack of experience isn't one of them.

And for Price the loss, essentially of a year, is atrocious.
Why shouldn't we have clapped with glee at the Hayemaker vision? It was undoubtedly naive, but I've no doubt that Haye and Booth genuinely meant every word and wanted to bring the shadowy, murky world of boxing promotions into the realms of 21st century business with an according level of transparency and fairness.
The fact they have discovered it's far more difficult than they anticipated and so are likely to fail is a great shame but I applaud them for trying.
And as for the idea that them failing to succeed in an honorable mission means we should doff caps to some of those established promoters who have on occasions treated fans with contempt. Well, it's not often that words fail me, but....

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 05:45
by leforge
Watson and Mcnally are fighting on Moore bill.

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 05:45
by Lenny
Deserter wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:For all those who clapped with glee at Hayemaker soundbytes; better undercards, looking after fighters, huge signing fees for fighters and their bid to change the face of boxing I think they should all doff their caps to Warren, Hennessy, Hearn and Maloney for yet further proof that promoting isn't easy, longevity even harder and perhaps remember that all that glitters aint gold.

They all have flaws. But a lack of experience isn't one of them.

And for Price the loss, essentially of a year, is atrocious.
Why shouldn't we have clapped with glee at the Hayemaker vision? It was undoubtedly naive, but I've no doubt that Haye and Booth genuinely meant every word and wanted to bring the shadowy, murky world of boxing promotions into the realms of 21st century business with an according level of transparency and fairness.
The fact they have discovered it's far more difficult than they anticipated and so are likely to fail is a great shame but I applaud them for trying.
And as for the idea that them failing to succeed in an honorable mission means we should doff caps to some of those established promoters who have on occasions treated fans with contempt. Well, it's not often that words fail me, but....
Well said Deserter, good on Hayemaker for giving it a go with a new outlook. Who knows what may have happened were it not for Setanta folding?

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 05:49
by charlieb
DavidPayne wrote:For all those who clapped with glee at Hayemaker soundbytes; better undercards, looking after fighters, huge signing fees for fighters and their bid to change the face of boxing I think they should all doff their caps to Warren, Hennessy, Hearn and Maloney for yet further proof that promoting isn't easy, longevity even harder and perhaps remember that all that glitters aint gold.

They all have flaws. But a lack of experience isn't one of them.

And for Price the loss, essentially of a year, is atrocious.
And Setanta's demise/the economic slump had nothing to do with the problems we now see for Hayemaker?

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 06:10
by DG.
He should go to Hatton imo.

:TU:

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 06:36
by DavidPayne
charlieb wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:For all those who clapped with glee at Hayemaker soundbytes; better undercards, looking after fighters, huge signing fees for fighters and their bid to change the face of boxing I think they should all doff their caps to Warren, Hennessy, Hearn and Maloney for yet further proof that promoting isn't easy, longevity even harder and perhaps remember that all that glitters aint gold.

They all have flaws. But a lack of experience isn't one of them.

And for Price the loss, essentially of a year, is atrocious.
And Setanta's demise/the economic slump had nothing to do with the problems we now see for Hayemaker?
Of course they do. Did any other promoter have a deal with Setanta and yet move away before the collapse?

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 06:42
by leforge
Who will Price sign for?

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 06:43
by Adamj1987
Neri wrote:I'm made up Price has left Hayemaker. Hopefully he will go with Warren and get regular fights, and also bring some decent shows to Liverpool. With regular fights, the Price-Fury rivalry could be built big, that's if Tyson doesn't get beat soon!
i recon he'll go on the jennings brook undefcard it frank gets him

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 07:23
by jBacca
leforge wrote:Watson and Mcnally are fighting on Moore bill.
Was just about to bring McNally up, he's a quality little fighter, thanks! :)

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 12:33
by Spud
DavidPayne wrote:And for Price the loss, essentially of a year, is atrocious.
Yet again you conveniently leave out some of the FACTS which you have a habit of doing - Price was due to fight on more than one of the Hayemaker bills this year - but an injury to I believe his hand or something like that was the cause for his absence.

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 12:48
by whatashambles
Spud wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:And for Price the loss, essentially of a year, is atrocious.
Yet again you conveniently leave out some of the FACTS which you have a habit of doing - Price was due to fight on more than one of the Hayemaker bills this year - but an injury to I believe his hand or something like that was the cause for his absence.
He was supposed to be on the Lindsay Belfast bill as well as the Liverpool show. Add to that 2 later shows this year and he could have had 5 fights this year.

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 12:52
by DG.
whatashambles wrote:Can I ask why people think Hatton has more money than Hayemaker? The Sky deal is only a short term thing and they're not getting the sort of money Warren is. Yes they're backed by Goldenboy but so were Hayemaker.
I don't think people realise how expensive it will be getting Price fights and I don't think Hatton can afford it unless he headlines on Sky every time he fights.
$20M versus PBF and all the other $Millions he made.

That is whay he can pay over the odds for fights - the interest alone qould pay for a decent British Title fight.

Hatton has his own mone to an extent and SKY will pay up also.

If it were not for his personal wealth he would not be promoting, you have to lay down some cash!


:DDD

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 15 Sep 2009, 15:44
by black panther
All the best to Price and Matthews, both good fighters who have the ability to win championships. But on a related note I really hope Hayemaker Promotions does not go under and can secure a t.v deal somewhere and build themselves back up. If they could just get going I think they could do really well, I really admire the way they make competitive matches throughout the bill - great for us fans!

Re: david price and derry matthews leave hayemaker

Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 18:08
by leforge
Any news on these two boxers yet?