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rf wrote:It was a eliminator but I dont think final eliminator because it was over 10 rounds not 12

I believe final eliminators are also over 10 rounds.

Although, I am sure this fight was just a regular eliminator rather than a final eliminator.

Counter-puncher wrote:i'd rather it took too long, but resul;ted in a fight that is worthy of probably the most prestigious belt in british boxing

Can't the board arrange a tournament to decide a worthy first mandatory challenger instead?

I don't think the board should slow down Barker's career advancement to try to get him a decent challenger for the vacant belt, when he will probably just beat them easily anyway.

Horse wrote:
I don't think the board should slow down Barker's career advancement to try to get him a decent challenger for the vacant belt, when he will probably just beat them easily anyway.

i think Murray would pose Barker some very interesting questions myself, he is not unskilled and seems to me to have a much bigger frame than Barker

Counter-puncher wrote:

Horse wrote:
I don't think the board should slow down Barker's career advancement to try to get him a decent challenger for the vacant belt, when he will probably just beat them easily anyway.

i think Murray would pose Barker some very interesting questions myself, he is not unskilled and seems to me to have a much bigger frame than Barker

I dont think Murray is ready for Barker at the moment I would like to see him fight the winner of McDermott vs Butler for the English and then go for the British however it's against he is a good boxer but not at the level of Macklin and Barker as yet but he is heading in the right direction

Counter-puncher wrote:i think Murray would pose Barker some very interesting questions myself, he is not unskilled and seems to me to have a much bigger frame than Barker

Maybe Murray would give Barker some problems.

I still don't think Barker should have to wait roughly 9 months to fight the winner of a tournament for the British title.

alexpaterson wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Horse wrote:
I don't think the board should slow down Barker's career advancement to try to get him a decent challenger for the vacant belt, when he will probably just beat them easily anyway.

i think Murray would pose Barker some very interesting questions myself, he is not unskilled and seems to me to have a much bigger frame than Barker

I dont think Murray is ready for Barker at the moment I would like to see him fight the winner of McDermott vs Butler for the English and then go for the British however it's against he is a good boxer but not at the level of Macklin and Barker as yet but he is heading in the right direction

yes, but horse seems to think that would all take too long

Counter-puncher wrote:yes, but horse seems to think that would all take too long

What is Barker meant to do whilst all of these eliminators are going on?

I wouldn't blame him if he went down the WBU route.

Horse wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:yes, but horse seems to think that would all take too long

What is Barker meant to do whilst all of these eliminators are going on?

I wouldn't blame him if he went down the WBU route.

It is down to Barker's promoters to provide him with opportunities

Coco wrote:It is down to Barker's promoters to provide him with opportunities

What is your point?

Horse wrote:

Coco wrote:It is down to Barker's promoters to provide him with opportunities

What is your point?

You asked what is Barker supposed to do while all these eliminators are going on? I think his promoter should keep him busy in championship class, thats his job

Coco wrote:You asked what is Barker supposed to do while all these eliminators are going on? I think his promoter should keep him busy in championship class, thats his job

Barker needs the exposure that he would get for being the British and Commonwealth champion. Making Barker defend his Commonwealth belt 2 or 3 times while he waits for a British title fight is just holding him back for no reason.

The BBBofC should not be looking to impede the progress of Britain's best fighters. Not allowing Barker to fight for the British title, while a load of eliminators go on, will hold him back.

Horse wrote:

Coco wrote:You asked what is Barker supposed to do while all these eliminators are going on? I think his promoter should keep him busy in championship class, thats his job

Barker needs the exposure that he would get for being the British and Commonwealth champion. Making Barker defend his Commonwealth belt 2 or 3 times while he waits for a British title fight is just holding him back for no reason.

The BBBofC should not be looking to impede the progress of Britain's best fighters. Not allowing Barker to fight for the British title, while a load of eliminators go on, will hold him back.

Other promoters seem to be able to influence the board and other organisations to get their fighters these shots, it's a shame Barkers doesn't get these opportunities

think Renda can box a bit as well, he did well against Paul Smith until caught.

I think that although Renda appeared to do well again Paul Smith, he was shown to be totally out of his depth when Paul decided to turn the fight on his head. Renda had a good night, and Smith a bad one. Let's not Kid ourselves that Renda is anything special, a good english level fighter, and that's it

avidlemon wrote:I think that although Renda appeared to do well again Paul Smith, he was shown to be totally out of his depth when Paul decided to turn the fight on his head. Renda had a good night, and Smith a bad one. Let's not Kid ourselves that Renda is anything special, a good english level fighter, and that's it

Who said he was anything special?

Horse wrote:

avidlemon wrote:I think that although Renda appeared to do well again Paul Smith, he was shown to be totally out of his depth when Paul decided to turn the fight on his head. Renda had a good night, and Smith a bad one. Let's not Kid ourselves that Renda is anything special, a good english level fighter, and that's it

Who said he was anything special?

I certainly fornicating didn't. I was refering to a previous poster who said something along the lines of renda being able to box a bit. I would say that being able to box a bit is a pre-requisite of stepping into a boxing ring, rather than devaluing boxing by suggesting that we should all be impressed by someone who BOXES for a living, having some boxing ability. I probably shouldn't have used to word special though, so maybe i brought it on myself a bit.

Bollocks

Excellent win for Renda. Fair play to Horton for his bold tactics, it made the fight very exciting, but he paid dearly.

Renda should, at the least, get another shot at the English title and a British title shot shouldn't be out of the question either.

I think Renda should fight Martin Murray. Murray hasnt done much after winning Prizefighter and this would be a good test for him I think Murray would stop him in the mid rounds but you never know with Renda's power.

I want to see Murray step up the compitition soon

alexpaterson wrote:I think Renda should fight Martin Murray. Murray hasnt done much after winning Prizefighter and this would be a good test for him I think Murray would stop him in the mid rounds but you never know with Renda's power.

I want to see Murray step up the compitition soon

x2 agreed alex

this boy can bang ! dont think hes british tittle level but hes allways in with a punches chance