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Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 05:59
by twenty six
Is Degale Anthony Small's love child ?

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 06:09
by Autobarn
i wonder if degale will ever even fight a defending world champion? (haye's fought 3 defending champs thus far, plus one future beltholder)

or will he get a vacant one passed on to him?

after all, he will be getting the gold medal treatment. obviously that will likely be very nice for him, but i prefer someone like haye who has done it as a bit of an outsider, without compromising to the big promoters (ok sauerland has a piece of him at the moment).

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 08:35
by bad mamma jamma
i was warming to degale until i saw that piece...he has just lost another fan..the bit about the range rover and the women is terrible..what a chav, what a helmet...with that attitude he will get nowhere cos he thinks he has made it already..how many boxers have been led astray by birds, ruined their careers and then when they have lost it all the birds are no longer there....think about that chunky you prike

big difference between how degale and groves come across, hope george f@cks him up..then see how allegedly drops him like third grade french..

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 08:48
by gemmell
Autobarn wrote:i can't even watch this degale. his fights being sold as chief support to PPV main events - a joke.

his debut - looking soft and pitty pat, an audley of the middle weight divisions. i know he will be successful, likely, just as aufdley is a failure. but in terms of personality and style, he is not my cup of tea, not at all.

this switching southpaw, even if he gets carefully moved to world titles, which he will, will probably never be exciting. do we really expect him to challenge himself as haye has? do we think he'll be in thrillers that match up to the mormeck, frago & thompson battles? will he score spectacular KOs at world level like haye's blowouts of gurov and macca? Will he win belts at 2 weights - would he be able to do it away from home? Will he fight any of his UK peers, like haye did with macca (in massive UK unification) and thompson? Will he win all his titles away from home - or will he win them in board rooms?

this is bollox. yes valuev is poor. but he is 300-pounds of poor. which is not so easy to fight.
i agree with everything you say. you mean switching orthadox?? he is a southpaw. when he does switch orthadox he looks poor.but when he stays southpaw he looks good

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 08:49
by gemmell
twenty six wrote:Is Degale Anthony Small's love child ?
:lol: :lol:

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 08:50
by Coco
People should stop taking nonsense hype at face value

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 08:56
by Counter-puncher
Autobarn wrote:i can't even watch this degale. his fights being sold as chief support to PPV main events - a joke.

his debut - looking soft and pitty pat, an audley of the middle weight divisions.

this switching southpaw, even if he gets carefully moved to world titles, .
oh, and here we go, lets judge someone on their debut and dismiss them, and lets poor scorn on them for being so crass as to switch hit. that'll sum them up nicely, there is nothing more to be said on the subject now :roll:

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 09:14
by hitman_hatton1
'he's like a big plank of wood' :D

let's be honest and admit haye wasn't particularly good against valuev.

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 09:17
by rhino222
hitman_hatton1 wrote:'he's like a big plank of wood' :D

let's be honest and admit haye wasn't particularly good against valuev.
no one is good against valuev, but only haye and chagaev have beat him, and there are some decent names on the giants record, if you look.

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 09:28
by Counter-puncher
here is the real reason degale doesn't like Haye:

ultimately, Degale is going for the crown of Britain's no1 metrosexual boxer. Haye stands in his way in the path to the top, on that front.

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 09:46
by Wax On
Fair play to him. I thought it was out of order of Haye to dismiss Degale's talent like that. I don't mean this to sound too over the top, but if the Darren Sutherland episode teaches us anything it's that not all top young sportsmen are mentally ready for the pressures of celebrity and such a challenging sport. More experienced men like Haye shouldn't feel the need to talk down a prospect before he's even really begun his career, even if it is for some cheap publicity for his own fighter.

Degale is perfectly entitled to have a go back. I hope that cockiness will stand him in good stead, because he'll need it with all the stick he's likely to get if his career continues in the same vein. The poor guy is already talking about accepting that some people will hate him!

Yes this PR piece shows him up for what he is. Not the brightest, naïve, and VERY cocky, but let's not forget how young he is. He's a British Olympic Gold Medalist and I just can't understand the mentality of people on this site sometimes in terms of the lack of support he gets and the criticisms.

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 10:38
by jBacca
Wax On wrote:Fair play to him. I thought it was out of order of Haye to dismiss Degale's talent like that. I don't mean this to sound too over the top, but if the Darren Sutherland episode teaches us anything it's that not all top young sportsmen are mentally ready for the pressures of celebrity and such a challenging sport. More experienced men like Haye shouldn't feel the need to talk down a prospect before he's even really begun his career, even if it is for some cheap publicity for his own fighter.

Degale is perfectly entitled to have a go back. I hope that cockiness will stand him in good stead, because he'll need it with all the stick he's likely to get if his career continues in the same vein. The poor guy is already talking about accepting that some people will hate him!

Yes this PR piece shows him up for what he is. Not the brightest, naïve, and VERY cocky, but let's not forget how young he is. He's a British Olympic Gold Medalist and I just can't understand the mentality of people on this site sometimes in terms of the lack of support he gets and the criticisms.
:TU:

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 10:45
by DG.
He is young and he will grow up.

As a fighter he impresses me a lot at the moment, but these stupid press releases are just that, stupid.

Calm it down!!
:OhYes:

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 10:52
by MightyWarrior
Wax On wrote:Fair play to him. I thought it was out of order of Haye to dismiss Degale's talent like that. I don't mean this to sound too over the top, but if the Darren Sutherland episode teaches us anything it's that not all top young sportsmen are mentally ready for the pressures of celebrity and such a challenging sport. More experienced men like Haye shouldn't feel the need to talk down a prospect before he's even really begun his career, even if it is for some cheap publicity for his own fighter.

Degale is perfectly entitled to have a go back. I hope that cockiness will stand him in good stead, because he'll need it with all the stick he's likely to get if his career continues in the same vein. The poor guy is already talking about accepting that some people will hate him!

Yes this PR piece shows him up for what he is. Not the brightest, naïve, and VERY cocky, but let's not forget how young he is. He's a British Olympic Gold Medalist and I just can't understand the mentality of people on this site sometimes in terms of the lack of support he gets and the criticisms.
Yep good post - DeGale comes across as a bit of a plonker in the piece, but no big thing really. FW needs to get a new PR man sorted I think.....but DH did have a go at him previously, so we know why this has cropped up.

And the funny thing is, he probably would beat Valuev. The big lump was that useless....one punch a round should do it eh

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 10:55
by Captain Hook
SnoopyLoopy wrote:chunky is 100% correct. haye took pops at chunky for absolutely no reason at all. chunky never did anything to him, the only thing he did was win a gold medal. haye publically said a lot of sh*t about chunky without reason. he made publicity for groves off chunkys back. chunky is right here, f*ck haye. can't wait to see wlad or vitali muller him, although he'll probably pull out before the fight is made.you wonder how he had a child at all with all the pulling out he does. well, statistically i guess the "pull out" method fails once in a while.
?! WTF?

He comes across VERY badly here.....and I agree he does need a new PR team. Even if he'd won 40 fights and three world titles this would still make him look a mug.

Humble? Man of the people? No chance...

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 10:57
by Captain Hook
PS It's a shame as having seen his last fight I think he has a lot of ability and could go far.......but not as far as Grove will. He is pure class and has already spanked Paul Samuels...

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 13:06
by Matt W
And Groves' last fight was a great match for a prospect at this stage I think, much better than giving him easy knockovers.

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 13:17
by Top Dog
Mna, he is turning into Khan already, sheeeit. Why cant these keep it rapped until they have fought someone with a pulse first, clown :KO:

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 13:23
by Rocky Balboa
Fcuk all the talk. I say let's see who's doing all the talking if its only Haye & DeGale in a room?

I have a feeling DeGale would be the one who would shut the fcuk up if a scenario like that occured!

Haye is WBA HW champ of the world. DeGale is? Couldn't his PR management have come up with something better than "I'm the marmite of Boxing!"

Re: Degale: Valuev was a rubbish champion.. i could beat him

Posted: 13 Nov 2009, 17:50
by alexpaterson
He look's good in the ring but for a 3 fight novice who is he to question the World Heavyweight Champion :??