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Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 09:49
by Lenny
Hold on, Brook would destroy Ricky Hatton? The Ricky Hatton that pretty much shutout Malignaggi a couple of fights ago??
Brook aint no Manny guys
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 09:52
by mike john
witter wont be getting the call. remember what happened the last time a high flying unbeaten american champion came over here to take him on?
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 09:53
by 15829
ha ha ha that fight would be laughable much rather flyodd fight someone like witter or michael jennings
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 09:54
by jamesmcdonnell
CheckHook wrote:I always felt that Floyd, Oscar & Ricky had a big multi-fight plan laid out which included fights in the UK and America but when Ricky got taken out so easily by Floyd all those plans got ruined. Since then I think the three have struggled to adjust to missing out on that. That's why Oscar dropped so much weight to chase Pacquiao and now why Floyd still seems desperate to carve a niche for himself in the UK, with or without Ricky. If he is serious about a tune-up in the UK though, they might as well just do Hatton Mayweather 2.
Me too - they saw a nice big gravy boat that they could all climb into and sail off into the sunset.
I think they thought Hatton would lose to Mayweather, but acquit himself well, then Oscar could beat Pacman, and they could set up Hatton v Oscar, with the winner getting another shot at Mayweather.
Didn't quite pan out like that did it?
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 09:54
by Wales
mike john wrote:witter wont be getting the call. remember what happened the last time a high flying unbeaten american champion came over here to take him on?
He lost a close SD over 12 rounds picking himself up off the canvas along the way.
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 09:56
by gemmell
Wales wrote:gemmell wrote:
brook would destroy hatton. too quick accurate and powerful for ricky. also brook would slaughter khan in my opinion
You're talking Ricky Hatton here? Kell brook would destory him? On what basis? The fact ricky got KO'd by the p4p #1 puncher and possibly fighter on the planet, or the fact Kel looked good knocking out, errrm, who was it again?
the fact that fatton didn't move his head once in the pacman fight. his punch resistance has gone. ricky would be a punch bag. brook would do hatton in 4..my opinion
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 09:59
by Wales
Its debatable whether his "punch resistance has gone" - where is the evidance of this? The fact the hardest puncher on the planet, who retired de la hoya and put Cotto over on numberous occassions sparked him?
Ricky would not be a punchbag, and Brook is no Manny Pacquiao. Hatton has never had great head movement, if anything has gone missing its his footwork, he's become more flat footed.
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:05
by gemmell
Wales wrote:Its debatable whether his "punch resistance has gone" - where is the evidance of this? The fact the hardest puncher on the planet, who retired de la hoya and put Cotto over on numberous occassions sparked him?
Ricky would not be a punchbag, and Brook is no Manny Pacquiao. Hatton has never had great head movement, if anything has gone missing its his footwork, he's become more flat footed.
he was outcold from pacman's left hook. cotto got hurt by it. but wasn't stretched out on the canvas like fatton. ricky's reactions are shocking. he has had too many tough fights. pacman is not the hardest puncher on the planet!!!! get off his philipino nuts. i knw brook is no pacman. but hatton is past it. brook would brutally ko him.
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:07
by Wales
Pacman is one of the best p4p punchers on the planet... name the guys that hit harder p4p.
hatton walked, no dived straight onto it! Cotto didnt dive in at any point but was still repetedly felled.
I am on pacquiaos nuts, a 6 weight world champion who's just oblitored a future hall of famer at 147 lbs.. but you're the one tipping Brook to beat Hatton and to fight Mayweather?! Is it not you on brooks nuts?
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:10
by Wales
gemmell wrote:
he has had too many tough fights.
Really... name them
Tszyu
Mayweather
Collazo
3 ?
4 if you include a 2nd rd KO, but apparently its in this fight that it all went to shit, after having a career best performance in the fight before.
Ricky Hattons biggest criticism, throughout his career, was not enough tough fights!
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:15
by gemmell
Wales wrote:Pacman is one of the best p4p punchers on the planet... name the guys that hit harder p4p.
hatton walked, no dived straight onto it! Cotto didnt dive in at any point but was still repetedly felled.
I am on pacquiaos nuts, a 6 weight world champion who's just oblitored a future hall of famer at 147 lbs.. but you're the one tipping Brook to beat Hatton and to fight Mayweather?! Is it not you on brooks nuts?
how am i on brook's nuts. somebody said out of the brits who could mayeather face then i said brook

with that face on the end of it. it's called a joke

brook would rape fatton.simple as. oh i see he is ONE of the best p4p punchers now is he. a minute ago you said he was p4p best puncher

seem's like you want to cry or something. getting upset over hatton because i said brook would beat him

you clearly are on the pacman's nutsack
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:23
by Wales
No, scroll back and read the post you responded to that says "one of the best p4p punchers on the planet" - I didnt just change it now. Why would any half knowledgable human being think a 10st 7 fighter would punch harder than anyone else, including 20 stone fighters?
So its joke that brook would be able to face Mayweather, but "he'd rape Hatton inside 4 rounds" hmmm.
"Seems like I want to cry" - what sort of comment is that, sorry, is it half term or something at the moment? Or are Mcdonalds closed for a steam clean? Cry? Not really, I've just seen nothing at all from you apart from words like "rape" and "slaughter" to suggest how Brook would do this to Hatton, who, prior to the Pacquiao fight, had one of his career best performances.
For me Ive not seen brook operate at a high enough level to suggest he'd beat a fringe world class operator. Do you even accept there is a gulf in class between someone like Michael Lomax and Ricky Hatton?
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:24
by gemmell
Wales wrote:No, scroll back and read the post you responded to that says "one of the best p4p punchers on the planet" - I didnt just change it now. Why would any half knowledgable human being think a 10st 7 fighter would punch harder than anyone else, including 20 stone fighters?
So its joke that brook would be able to face Mayweather, but "he'd rape Hatton inside 4 rounds" hmmm.
"Seems like I want to cry" - what sort of comment is that, sorry, is it half term or something at the moment? Or are Mcdonalds closed for a steam clean? Cry? Not really, I've just seen nothing at all from you apart from words like "rape" and "slaughter" to suggest how Brook would do this to Hatton, who, prior to the Pacquiao fight, had one of his career best performances.
For me Ive not seen brook operate at a high enough level to suggest he'd beat a fringe world class operator.
its a joke brook would be able to face mayweather?? i didnt say that!!

welsh sheep shagger
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:27
by Wales
gemmell wrote:
its a joke brook would be able to face mayweather?? i didnt say that!!

welsh sheep shagger
Whats that below then?
gemmell wrote: somebody said out of the brits who could mayeather face then i said brook

with that face on the end of it. it's called a joke
"Shepp Shagger" - well done, I bet the forum members will be falling off their computer chairs after reading that one. Where do you get your gags, eh? I feel pretty stupid now, huh, you won that one.
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:36
by gemmell
Wales wrote:gemmell wrote:
its a joke brook would be able to face mayweather?? i didnt say that!!

welsh sheep shagger
Whats that below then?
gemmell wrote: somebody said out of the brits who could mayeather face then i said brook

with that face on the end of it. it's called a joke
"Shepp Shagger" - well done, I bet the forum members will be falling off their computer chairs after reading that one. Where do you get your gags, eh? I feel pretty stupid now, huh, you won that one.
brook is the best british ww!! so if anybody from the uk could face mayweather then it would be brook. he would get schoole.your tryna make out im saying brook would have a chance
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:48
by Wales
No im not, im questioning
a) How Brook "Rapes" Hatton inside 4 rounds. The terminology you've used is foul for starters, then you go on to say no head movement. Show me a Hatton fight, ever, where he moves his head to slip punches throughout the fight.
b) Too many tough fights. Hatton hasnt had too many tough fights, I'd like to see statistics on how many rounds he's lost aside form his defeats. It wont be many I dont think. Its far more likely he's suffered from the weight making issues, his lifestyle and bloating between fights then trying to trim back down to the weight he was as a youngster. Not the punishment or punches taken.
Even at this stage of his career, anyone who "slaughters" Hatton inside 4 rounds makes a massive statement on the world scene. Hatton isnt a Lomax or Mcintyre.
You say about Pacman knocking him out cold, what of the weight making issues in that fight? He looked drained going in etc... ?
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:54
by DG.
Eraserhead wrote: . I've heard from a few reliable sources that Mayweather's next fight will definitely take place in the UK.
Fight Witter or Kell Brook!

Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 10:56
by DG.
gemmell wrote:Wales wrote:gemmell wrote:
brook would destroy hatton. too quick accurate and powerful for ricky. also brook would slaughter khan in my opinion
You're talking Ricky Hatton here? Kell brook would destory him? On what basis? The fact ricky got KO'd by the p4p #1 puncher and possibly fighter on the planet, or the fact Kel looked good knocking out, errrm, who was it again?
the fact that fatton didn't move his head once in the pacman fight. his punch resistance has gone. ricky would be a punch bag. brook would do hatton in 4..my opinion
Brook does Hatton the first clean punch he lands!

Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 11:43
by hitman_hatton1
Chambers2 wrote:It's a pity Kel Brook's not a few fights further into his career, it'd certainly be a tougher test for Mayweather than Matthew Hatton is. As mentioned Witter would be another ideal UK based opponent, but I bet he's still got the presidentancy of the 'who needs him club'
president of the 'i quit on my stool in a dull fight' club more like.
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Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 11:44
by stujones
If it wasn't for Manny, I think Mayweather and Oscar would have fought in the UK. Okay, Hatton was ultimately outclassed against Floyd - but it was intriguing enough and things didn't go according to plan which would have made a rematch sellable - ref, preperation, weight etc.
Nobody would have been critical of a rematch had he beaten Pacquiao - he didn't though... he got anhilated by him.
I think Marquez is an ideal fight for Ricky to get back into the picture somewhat. He needs to do a number on him, I don't think he will.
I would rather see Khan fight Mayweather than Brook.
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 11:45
by hitman_hatton1
i remember putting a question to mayweather on boxingchat about junior witter.
around the time witter was the wbc no1 at 140 and floyd had that title.
floyd pretty much laughed it off and dismissed it out of hand.
just like ricky did tbh.

Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 11:49
by hitman_hatton1
stujones wrote:I would rather see Khan fight Mayweather than Brook.
no way.
least khan has some future potential in world class.
a lesson off floyd could destroy khan.
brook won't get the fight.
but least he's more of an unknown quantity and could do with the payday and profile that fight would bring him.

Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 12:33
by danieljenkins
dont listen to this shit floyd will not fight matthew hatton lol
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 13:41
by lefthook82
If he fights in the uk against any of aforementioned fighters I hope he gets done in 1 round and loses the potential to make any more big money
Disgraceful if true
Re: Mayweather Jr vs Matthew Hatton?
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 13:47
by n1ebf
I would just not like to be within earshot of radio and TV in that particular locality....
"yeh...people are sayin' that he's a 5 weight world champion and the favourite.....but I think I've earned this...I a very much improved fighter y'know.....is this mic switched on?? hello?.....hello?...."