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Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 13:31
by 15829
witters fighting at welter weight now, there was talk of him fighting mccloskey that would be a intriguing fight

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 13:33
by whicker
deadpan wrote:Would a Witter fight be acceptable next?
Maybe - although on his last showing, Witter certainly does not deserve an immediate title challenge.

I'd like to see Witter in a comeback fight, and look good in it.

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 13:41
by DG.
Yes!

Khan at least wants to fight the best out there and conquer America sooner rather than later.

He should leave Fwank - but Fwank seems to have convinced him they can jointly promote.

Kick Fwank into touch and go to the U S of A and fight the best they have to offer.

If Khan had a Chin he would be on his way to real greatness but he doesn't.

:OhYes:

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 13:51
by Deno1986
I don't like Khan but I can't see any problems with what he has done this year apart from the fact he skipped the whole Lightweight division but in the ring he hasn't done much wrong with who he has fought, its what he does next in terms of who he fights is the big question.

Barrera- Legend/Hall of famer, a shot one at that but Khan still bet him and MAB is a big name on his record.

Kotelnik- WBA Champion, technically very good boxer who was in his prime, natural 140 pounder who has been in the ring with some good ones.

Salita- Not the best but he was the WBA Mandatory for whatever reason but mandatory challengers are there to be fought and Khan did that and bet him in style. Plenty of posters give boxers stick for not fighting the 'mandatory challenger'. Khan did it but still gets stick for not fighting some of the bigger names at 140.

Now that he has fought a big name, won a World Title and got rid of the mandatory challenger its what he does next is important. He really is alot better than Prescott and I think he would outbox him this time so I dont think a rematch is nessecary. Maidana should be next and then maybe someone like Juan Diaz before moving on to the Bradleys and Alexanders

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 13:52
by nobby_nobbins
Khan took on the best as an amateur and I see no reason why he won't do the same as a pro. He has certainly won my respect, and I too will be supporting him in future. It's rare we get boxers in this country who have what it takes to conquer the world. We should recognise that quality and be thankful for it.

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 13:52
by Twinkle Toes
I think Khan represents a substantial thing that is wrong with boxing.

I don't mean in respect of him as a fighter or for that matter his attitude to the fight game, because I like his ethic in the gym and as a trainer.

However, the outside of the ring hype and promotion is another matter, and it's ultimately put him at a place where he's stripped bare for criticism.

We'll see where he goes from here, but Salita type fights for 15 quid a time hold little interest to this fan.

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 15:09
by n1ebf
Captain Hook wrote:x2

I like the guy, good luck to him....
x3

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 19:10
by Nightmare Roy
I think the fact that he packed his bags and left his family and friends to dedicate himself 100% to boxing after the Prescott defeat speaks volumes about his character and determination, he comes across as a decent guy too, yeah he's confident and ambitious but he doesn't come across as cocky. I don't read too much into his last win, it went down exactly as i thought it would, but he is super talented and i think now he is with FR he can achieve a helluva lot.

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 19:12
by Nightmare Roy
diggler wrote:witters fighting at welter weight now, there was talk of him fighting mccloskey that would be a intriguing fight
I used to really rate Witter, but in his last fight he just didn't seem to want it any more, I'm sure the ability is still there, but is he still hungry?

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 20:20
by whiskey
Respect is earned and not just handed out. Let's recap this illustrious career over the last year so:

Fought the completely unknown Breidis Prescott and was absolutely DESTROYED

Fought a bantamweight in Barrera, a decade after he fought Naz and 20 odd fights later.

Fought the world's worst champion (his words) and fought so saftey-minded it was like a boxing version of Nytol.

Stopped Salita in a round - a 30 fight guy who'd only mustered 1 previous 12 round fight with no business at world level.

As soon as he tangles with a Torres, Holt, Bradley etc and gets hit with something he will be gone again.

Until he proves that he does want to be the man at 140 by fighting the best men, then my respect for him is on hold. To date he has had a cleverly managed career - with his conditioning expert, superstar coach, LA pad and personal barber - and fighting dross on pay per view.

He's done plenty of talking, let's see him walk the walk now.

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 21:51
by gobbles
G0mez wrote:Respect is earned and not just handed out. Let's recap this illustrious career over the last year so:

Fought the completely unknown Breidis Prescott and was absolutely DESTROYED

Fought a bantamweight in Barrera, a decade after he fought Naz and 20 odd fights later.

Fought the world's worst champion (his words) and fought so saftey-minded it was like a boxing version of Nytol.

Stopped Salita in a round - a 30 fight guy who'd only mustered 1 previous 12 round fight with no business at world level.

As soon as he tangles with a Torres, Holt, Bradley etc and gets hit with something he will be gone again.

Until he proves that he does want to be the man at 140 by fighting the best men, then my respect for him is on hold. To date he has had a cleverly managed career - with his conditioning expert, superstar coach, LA pad and personal barber - and fighting dross on pay per view.

He's done plenty of talking, let's see him walk the walk now.
Boxed in an Olympic final at 17.

It's easy to go through anyone's career just looking at the downside, just picking holes, but that's not taking a balanced view. I can't believe there is any boxer in history that could stand up to that. He's 22 and a WBA champion, that's pretty impressive on its own.

And your opinion is completely worthless if you describe Barrera as a bantamweight. he last boxed under the bantamweight limit in 1994 when he was 20. You might as well call Pacquiao a light-flyweight.

With that sort of logic I'm sure anyone's respect for you is on hold.

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 21:58
by stujones
gobbles wrote:
G0mez wrote:Respect is earned and not just handed out. Let's recap this illustrious career over the last year so:

Fought the completely unknown Breidis Prescott and was absolutely DESTROYED

Fought a bantamweight in Barrera, a decade after he fought Naz and 20 odd fights later.

Fought the world's worst champion (his words) and fought so saftey-minded it was like a boxing version of Nytol.

Stopped Salita in a round - a 30 fight guy who'd only mustered 1 previous 12 round fight with no business at world level.

As soon as he tangles with a Torres, Holt, Bradley etc and gets hit with something he will be gone again.



Until he proves that he does want to be the man at 140 by fighting the best men, then my respect for him is on hold. To date he has had a cleverly managed career - with his conditioning expert, superstar coach, LA pad and personal barber - and fighting dross on pay per view.

He's done plenty of talking, let's see him walk the walk now.
Boxed in an Olympic final at 17.

It's easy to go through anyone's career just looking at the downside, just picking holes, but that's not taking a balanced view. I can't believe there is any boxer in history that could stand up to that. He's 22 and a WBA champion, that's pretty impressive on its own.

And your opinion is completely worthless if you describe Barrera as a bantamweight. he last boxed under the bantamweight limit in 1994 when he was 20. You might as well call Pacquiao a light-flyweight.

With that sort of logic I'm sure anyone's respect for you is on hold.
Time flies, but Hamed vs Barrera isn't a decade old yet either.

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 04:28
by Des1
Yeah he's got my respect, most fighters have but I'd have more respect if he would have been eager to avenge his loss to Prescott (even if he wouldn't have won the return). He'd get my respect more if he'd at least try to put part of the record straight by contesting the man who beat Prescott. Lets have Khan v Mitchell, surely that fight would sell now.

Re: IMO it's time to show Khan show respect

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 07:33
by whiskey
gobbles wrote:
Boxed in an Olympic final at 17.

It's easy to go through anyone's career just looking at the downside, just picking holes, but that's not taking a balanced view. I can't believe there is any boxer in history that could stand up to that. He's 22 and a WBA champion, that's pretty impressive on its own.

And your opinion is completely worthless if you describe Barrera as a bantamweight. he last boxed under the bantamweight limit in 1994 when he was 20. You might as well call Pacquiao a light-flyweight.

With that sort of logic I'm sure anyone's respect for you is on hold.
What? can you tell me what the upside is to getting knocked out by a totally raw and unknown columbian in less than a single minute ?

Or the benefit of fighting a guy 10lb out of his comfort zone in Barrera, who was 65-6 and and 9 years past his best win?

Khan's olympic foray was almost 6 year ago. He is 23 now and with millions in the bank, fighting on PPV and is already on his 3rd trainer.

When you look back to Zab Judah as the IBF champion aged 23 and trying to unify against Kostya Tyszu.

Or when he was 21 and outpointed tough Mickey Ward, a whole 5 years before he fought the Gatti trilogy.

And yet we hear the faded Zab is perhaps a step too far for Khan right now, despite the fact Khan is now a world champion and Zab is 4 losses and 3 wins over the last 3 years or so.