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Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 14 Dec 2009, 09:18
by DavidPayne
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Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 14 Dec 2009, 09:51
by Tykemania
Happy Slapper wrote:
Tykemania wrote:"As soon as this fight was made, I told Sam we would be preparing for the Danny Williams that beat Mike Tyson”


Hmmm, so training involves lying in a crumpled heap on the floor then?

Don't get me wrong, I pick Sexton as the favourite here - though would never back against Danny pulling off one last win - but the Norfolk lad will never be a patch on a prime Williams. He hasn't the heart, the punching power or the variety.
Why do you question his heart? What are you basing that on?
He's not in tip top shape, is he - he gassed badly against Rogan under minimal pressure. I also have to say that I did not like how, in their first flight, as soon as he was injured he started sooking to the ref - had Rogan been less of a sporting gentleman, he'd have been finished.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 14 Dec 2009, 09:55
by Asterix
I know better than to count Williams out. Sexton should win this, but Danny is sooo unpredictable. He can look totally shot one minute and then be on top the next.

Can't wait for the fight!

If Danny loses I would like him to retire, even if he loses on points.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 14 Dec 2009, 10:04
by Happy Slapper
Tykemania wrote:
Happy Slapper wrote:
Tykemania wrote:"As soon as this fight was made, I told Sam we would be preparing for the Danny Williams that beat Mike Tyson”


Hmmm, so training involves lying in a crumpled heap on the floor then?

Don't get me wrong, I pick Sexton as the favourite here - though would never back against Danny pulling off one last win - but the Norfolk lad will never be a patch on a prime Williams. He hasn't the heart, the punching power or the variety.
Why do you question his heart? What are you basing that on?
He's not in tip top shape, is he - he gassed badly against Rogan under minimal pressure. I also have to say that I did not like how, in their first flight, as soon as he was injured he started sooking to the ref - had Rogan been less of a sporting gentleman, he'd have been finished.
I agree he's not in top shape, but as Carlos pointed out he went to Belfast twice to fight Rogan, has never hit the deck and always comes to fight. His heart can't be questioned. His stamina definitely can.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 02:12
by oliverfennell
Asterix wrote:I know better than to count Williams out. Sexton should win this, but Danny is sooo unpredictable. He can look totally shot one minute and then be on top the next.

Can't wait for the fight!

If Danny loses I would like him to retire, even if he loses on points.
Williams hasn't looked "on top" since he beat Gammer nearly three years ago. Even then, the fight was even on points against a guy who subsequently did nothing of note.

Agreed it's an intriguing fight though. They always are with Danny Williams!

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 11:05
by forcefraser
Williams showed in Prizefighter that he doesn`t really have much left.

His balance and punch resistance look shot. He has been a great servant to boxing and I really don`t need to see him take a pasting from Sexton, which is what is likely to happen.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 18:33
by fatcity69
I like Danny and worry about him keeping fighting. He seems to be getting hurt in just about every fight going right back to the klitchenko and tyson fights. The last time he looked anywahere near his previous form was against Gammer and even then he was shook up a few times. I think the Williams who fought Gammer would beat sexton but he seems to have slipped a lot since then. He looked totally shot in prizefighter and really imo hes an example of the type of fighter who should be retired for his own good at this point of his career. I think every pounch he takes at this point is a punch too many. Sadly I can see him taking a lengthly pounding against Sexton.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 18:51
by stujones
Now I hope on the back of Haye's success this means Sky will be looking at more Saturday boxing. It looks like a cracking domestic bill, but I have this fear it might be on PPV.

Kevin Mitchell, Brook vs Jennings, Olympians..... I hope this is just on Sky and not Sky Box Office... it will be really scraping the barrell if the top of the Bill is a British title fight.

Doesn't seem to be much lined up in the states that weekend.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 07:00
by failedairman
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 958065.ece

Worrying when fighter makes this sort of admission and still prepared to fight.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 07:17
by vargas
failedairman wrote:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 958065.ece

Worrying when fighter makes this sort of admission and still prepared to fight.
Thought that myself when I saw his interview on Sky. Can't blame him for wanting to go out with one last tear up but admitting your shot before a fight is very worrying. Hopefully he sticks to his word and win, lose or draw calls it day.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 08:04
by Asterix
oliverfennell wrote:
Asterix wrote:I know better than to count Williams out. Sexton should win this, but Danny is sooo unpredictable. He can look totally shot one minute and then be on top the next.

Can't wait for the fight!

If Danny loses I would like him to retire, even if he loses on points.
Williams hasn't looked "on top" since he beat Gammer nearly three years ago. Even then, the fight was even on points against a guy who subsequently did nothing of note.

Agreed it's an intriguing fight though. They always are with Danny Williams!
I didn't say "looked on top", I said "be on top", like he almost turned things around against Baker in Prizefighter. I definitely don't think he's anything like the Danny Williams he used to be. He's still got power, though.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 08:16
by teddy007
Does anyone know who George Michael Carmen is making his debut on the undercard?

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 08:52
by gobbles
stujones wrote:Now I hope on the back of Haye's success this means Sky will be looking at more Saturday boxing. It looks like a cracking domestic bill, but I have this fear it might be on PPV.

Kevin Mitchell, Brook vs Jennings, Olympians..... I hope this is just on Sky and not Sky Box Office... it will be really scraping the barrell if the top of the Bill is a British title fight.

Doesn't seem to be much lined up in the states that weekend.

It's on Sky Sports, not PPV. Jennings is out.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 09:03
by mickey1975
I think its a premiership-free weekend.Gutted about Jennings though.By far the fight of the night

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 09:44
by 15829
doubt we'll get to see brook jennings now

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 03:39
by oliverfennell
Asterix wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
Asterix wrote:I know better than to count Williams out. Sexton should win this, but Danny is sooo unpredictable. He can look totally shot one minute and then be on top the next.

Can't wait for the fight!

If Danny loses I would like him to retire, even if he loses on points.
Williams hasn't looked "on top" since he beat Gammer nearly three years ago. Even then, the fight was even on points against a guy who subsequently did nothing of note.

Agreed it's an intriguing fight though. They always are with Danny Williams!
I didn't say "looked on top", I said "be on top", like he almost turned things around against Baker in Prizefighter. I definitely don't think he's anything like the Danny Williams he used to be. He's still got power, though.
Fair point and I get you. He would have beaten Baker if it was scheduled for longer than it was.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 03:44
by leforge
Brook in a wold title elimantor now against who?

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 04:17
by vargas
Speaking of the Gammer fight how the hell did williams manage to get down 228 lbs. He was 288 for the Skelton fight less than a year earlier and 270 for the platov fight less than a year later.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 03:02
by oliverfennell
vargas wrote:Speaking of the Gammer fight how the hell did williams manage to get down 228 lbs. He was 288 for the Skelton fight less than a year earlier and 270 for the platov fight less than a year later.
Tapeworm.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 08:14
by funso banjo baby
the legend is over

needs to retire

this is almost as bad as Potter v butterbean

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 21 Dec 2009, 08:42
by billy beak
I'm not sure Herbie will be doing much at all, I've heard he may be upto to his old tricks and not concentrating on his training. He was looking at a Cruiser weight title shot but that's not on the cards any more.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 22 Dec 2009, 02:16
by oliverfennell
billy beak wrote:I'm not sure Herbie will be doing much at all, I've heard he may be upto to his old tricks and not concentrating on his training. He was looking at a Cruiser weight title shot but that's not on the cards any more.
Don;t know where Hide comes into this topic, but if true that's a shame. I don't know why he didn't take the WBO shot against Macc when it was offered. OK, perhaps because it was late notice, but then he turned down a WBC eliminator vs Matt Godfrey too. And what better opportunities did he have at 37/38 - beating up more unknown continental journeymen?

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 22 Dec 2009, 06:06
by DavidPayne
oliverfennell wrote:
billy beak wrote:I'm not sure Herbie will be doing much at all, I've heard he may be upto to his old tricks and not concentrating on his training. He was looking at a Cruiser weight title shot but that's not on the cards any more.
Don;t know where Hide comes into this topic, but if true that's a shame. I don't know why he didn't take the WBO shot against Macc when it was offered. OK, perhaps because it was late notice, but then he turned down a WBC eliminator vs Matt Godfrey too. And what better opportunities did he have at 37/38 - beating up more unknown continental journeymen?
Henry Akinwande was doing that into his sixties.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 23 Dec 2009, 07:06
by oliverfennell
DavidPayne wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
billy beak wrote:I'm not sure Herbie will be doing much at all, I've heard he may be upto to his old tricks and not concentrating on his training. He was looking at a Cruiser weight title shot but that's not on the cards any more.
Don;t know where Hide comes into this topic, but if true that's a shame. I don't know why he didn't take the WBO shot against Macc when it was offered. OK, perhaps because it was late notice, but then he turned down a WBC eliminator vs Matt Godfrey too. And what better opportunities did he have at 37/38 - beating up more unknown continental journeymen?
Henry Akinwande was doing that into his sixties.
Yeah, but Akinwande was beating continentally-solid opp like Timo Hoffman; Hide is playing around with Yevgeny Shakatakalashvili.

Re: Sexton v Williams Announced

Posted: 23 Dec 2009, 11:50
by Stiff_jab
Williams has looked like bambi on ice in his last few showings and Sextons jab will tear him apart. 6th round Sexton win.

It was a real shame that this isn't in Norwich any more as with Sexton and the Walsh brothers all on the bill there would have been a massive local interest. Although I feel pretty safe in betting that there will still be a huge turn out of fans from Norfolk.

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