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Re: The big punchers with 2 hand ko power

Posted: 08 Feb 2010, 11:07
by Crease
Robinson wrote: Thomas Hearns...

His right hand was incredible, his left hook sharp-accurate and devastating to the body and head, his jab was sythe like and set up so much.
I still say that Tommy Hearns in the most exciting boxer I have ever watched. :TU:
Robinson wrote: Mike Tyson...

Nearly everything he hit a man with would put him down, whether singular or as part of a combination.
His career illustrates this.
Tyson is one of the few boxers who has explosive power in both fists. :TU:
I would rate Tyson
Right hand: 10, left hand: 09.
Robinson wrote: Floyd Patterson...

The man with easily the fastest hands at HW, and perhaps a bit south of that too.. he could put a man down with his savage volleys with either hand, but he could also land a singular instantaneous blow that would fell a big man.
Patterson KO power isn't as powerful as Listons. :shame:

Archie Moore was the greatest Knockout artist of all time...
He had explosive power in his eyes. :TU:
Moore would definitely get a 10-10 (if this werew light heavyweight)

Re: The big punchers with 2 hand ko power

Posted: 08 Feb 2010, 21:09
by Goodnight, Irene
Patterson's power was, however, & still remains, under-estimated.

Re: The big punchers with 2 hand ko power

Posted: 08 Feb 2010, 21:54
by SaadOffTheDeck
Agreed, so was leonard's. He could bang with both hands and I would put Patterson and leonard in the same group. Though I don't hate Patterson more than cancer.

Re: The big punchers with 2 hand ko power

Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 03:57
by Goodnight, Irene
It does say, "The Big Punchers," in the thread title, though. There's (often under-rated) power in the fists of Juan Manuel Marquez, Floyd Patterson & Ray Leonard, but I wouldn't consider any of the three as among Boxing's big punchers.

When you speak of guys like Arguello, Foreman, Hearns, Duran & company, can't see the above guys swirling through the convo.

Re: The big punchers with 2 hand ko power

Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 15:47
by yancey
Goodnight, Irene wrote:It does say, "The Big Punchers," in the thread title, though. There's (often under-rated) power in the fists of Juan Manuel Marquez, Floyd Patterson & Ray Leonard, but I wouldn't consider any of the three as among Boxing's big punchers.

When you speak of guys like Arguello, Foreman, Hearns, Duran & company, can't see the above guys swirling through the convo.
Agreed, based on the topic title, Patterson would not be a fit, but that left hook he hit Ingo with to regain the title was forever memorable.

Would Duran be considered more of an attrition puncher than a pure knockout artist?

Re: The big punchers with 2 hand ko power

Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 17:46
by Idisagree
yancey wrote:Would Duran be considered more of an attrition puncher than a pure knockout artist?
I do consider Duran, Hagler, and Louis to be more attrition punchers than pure KO artist.

What about Wilfredo Gomez, Edwin Rosario, Pipino Cuevas, Carlos Zarate, and Ruben Olivares?

Re: The big punchers with 2 hand ko power

Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 19:25
by SaadOffTheDeck
Duran was a menace and he routinely floored guys with single shots all the way up to 168. He was incredibly accurate and that added to his power, but not an attrition puncher.

Hagler I would have to agree with you, but at the same time he took out guys like Antuofermo & Hamsho that had never come close to being stopped.

You can't mean Joe Louis?

Re: The big punchers with 2 hand ko power

Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 19:27
by SaadOffTheDeck
Goodnight, Irene wrote:It does say, "The Big Punchers," in the thread title, though. There's (often under-rated) power in the fists of Juan Manuel Marquez, Floyd Patterson & Ray Leonard, but I wouldn't consider any of the three as among Boxing's big punchers.

When you speak of guys like Arguello, Foreman, Hearns, Duran & company, can't see the above guys swirling through the convo.
Marquez belongs in the conversation imo.

Re: The big punchers with 2 hand ko power

Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 21:09
by Goodnight, Irene
We'll agree to disagree, then. Very good puncher, not great --- certainly, not among Boxing's all-time elite.

Re: The big punchers with 2 hand ko power

Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 22:11
by SaadOffTheDeck
I don't consider him to be in the same league as the guys you mentioned. But I would definitely include him in a top 100. He really upped his alltime standing in a lot of categories for me with his stoppages of Casamayor & Diaz.