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Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 11:50
by funso banjo baby
THEBUTCH wrote:Harrison has done eff all to deserve his shot. A very low quality matchup for the EBU title. Both have seriously inflated records and it is somewhat galling to see two bottle jobs who have always looked for the easy option fighting for a prestigious title
On another note, this highlights yet again that in boxing it's never over until it's over and how quick fighters get written off after a loss.
the ebu has always been a corrupt crock of shite
why knock a voluntary.
jesus nobody blinked when Rene Monse got a shot

Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 12:27
by Bard of Boxrec
funso banjo baby wrote:alexpaterson wrote:stujones wrote:Anyone question quite how Audley justifies this shot. Remember Martin Rogan was rejected by the EBU and he beat Audley.
Was thinking the same "Prizefighter" did overrate him as his 3 wins were against fairly poor opponants and he didnt look convincanlly doing it
what more do you need from a prizefighter champion...?
he knocked out two opps with one punch
i like where this is going
if auds can do it..then we'll have possible Auds V Sexton/Skelton/Chisora/Williams for the Euro/Brit/Commonwealth crowns ...winner will
definately get a shot at Haye in London
im so exciting

How do you think up these wacky scenarios? :idea:
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 12:46
by el_grande_mauro_mina
I am of the opinion that fighters in this day and age don't 'earn' shots at titles - if a fighter has the right connections then they get a title shot - we all know this by now don't we?
Sosnowski is pretty average and Audley isn't going to chimp this big chance up surely? Harrison to win handsomely on points - its Audley's fight to lose - Sosnowski has absolutley no physical or skill advantage whatsoever over Pot Noodles very own 'Big Dave' If Harrisons reticence and protected career has you hating him folks - then you should be having a right hate on for Sosnowski!
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Isn't he something like 76-1-1?
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 14:16
by Finn
Good on him i say, i'd like to see him in the mix with some of the top 10 heavyweights and earn a world title shot. I know it maybe a long shot but i'll be supporting him.
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 15:22
by funso banjo baby
Riddick Blowe wrote:funso banjo baby wrote:alexpaterson wrote:
Was thinking the same "Prizefighter" did overrate him as his 3 wins were against fairly poor opponants and he didnt look convincanlly doing it
what more do you need from a prizefighter champion...?
he knocked out two opps with one punch
i like where this is going
if auds can do it..then we'll have possible Auds V Sexton/Skelton/Chisora/Williams for the Euro/Brit/Commonwealth crowns ...winner will
definately get a shot at Haye in London
im so exciting

How do you think up these wacky scenarios? :idea:
if audley beats either of these guys to claim the brit/comm and euro titles..id say hes dead certain to get whoever is around out of the WBA/WBC/WBO/Ibf. If Haye is around the matchup in the Uk would be huge. like it or not Auds has a persona and Haye is supernova atm.
a matchup between the two would be the biggest domestic scrap since Bruno-Lewis

Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 16:27
by reggaereggae
If Sosnowski has a decnt chin I think he'll beat Audley
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 16:36
by leforge
http://www.BS.com/?m=show&id=24641
March 13th or March 26th can't be 26th Hatton promotions have Small v Webb. The 13th is a Saturday night.
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 17:51
by Exoddus
Exoddus wrote:Audley to get KO'd. He can't fight fighters who come forward.....
All he needs to do is keep coming forward. Audley stamina is terrible and Sosnowski looked in great shape against Vidoz.
In this fight I have to attack all the time and not give him any rest, because I know that he does not like to be under pressure
He has Audleys number. As long as he sticks to his game plan. He'll beat Audley no problem.
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 18:00
by DG.
chinny wrote:
I expect it is more to do with the champs links to Hearn and a decent Sky backed payday. Might be that this was already lined up when Hearn put him on at York hall.
Harrison and Hearn to the World Title

Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 18:02
by leforge
What venue will this fight take place in London?
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 05:30
by stujones
How on earth is he ranked 8th in Europe - 8th in the UK, okay.. but 8th in Europe.
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 07:14
by oliverfennell
Riddick Blowe wrote:funso banjo baby wrote:alexpaterson wrote:
Was thinking the same "Prizefighter" did overrate him as his 3 wins were against fairly poor opponants and he didnt look convincanlly doing it
what more do you need from a prizefighter champion...?
he knocked out two opps with one punch
i like where this is going
if auds can do it..then we'll have possible Auds V Sexton/Skelton/Chisora/Williams for the Euro/Brit/Commonwealth crowns ...winner will
definately get a shot at Haye in London
im so exciting

How do you think up these wacky scenarios? :idea:
Yep... Haye-Harrison is just about plausible, but NO WAY will Williams get another world title shot, even if somehow he wins through against that lot. Too damaged goods, and both Haye and the public knows this. Skelton, too old. Sexton and Chisora, too green and not well-enough known.
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 07:23
by oliverfennell
Carlos-Wigan wrote:I am of the opinion that fighters in this day and age don't 'earn' shots at titles - if a fighter has the right connections then they get a title shot - we all know this by now don't we?
Sosnowski is pretty average and Audley isn't going to chimp this big chance up surely? Harrison to win handsomely on points - its Audley's fight to lose - Sosnowski has absolutley no physical or skill advantage whatsoever over Pot Noodles very own 'Big Dave' If Harrisons reticence and protected career has you hating him folks - then you should be having a right hate on for Sosnowski!
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Isn't he something like 76-1-1?
Exactly. Sosnowski is just a Euro Chapman/Saleem/Greenberg who somehow gets legitimacy from (only just) beating a shot-to-bits Williams and a Vidoz who's something like 1-5 in Euro title class.
He may or may not beat Audley but Carlos' assessment is right - if you hate cynical matchmaking and the puffing up of records to flatter a middling talent into an undeserved financial position, then you should hate Sosnowski. Audley has fought at a higher level than this guy several times - and has even won some of them!
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 07:50
by stujones
I disagree Oliver. Who has Audley fought and beaten who are better than Vidoz, Williams and drawing with Pianeta.
I think drawing with Pianeta and beating up Williams is good enough form to warrant a high EBU ranking.
Audley LOST to Rogan, lost to Sprott and beat an equally shot to bits Williams (who was on a weeks notice).
Paineta isn't that good but has some decent wins under his belt.
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 08:00
by funso banjo baby
we're getting a bit bogged down with legitimacy arguments.
the british and euro titles get passed around willy nilly and always tend to stagnate ...it goes without saying that the euro champ isnt the number one ranked in europe these days.
we should consider the ebu the same way we do wbf or wbo or wba.... its just a bauble
who do we think should be the legit 1 and 2 contenders then ? dont forget sexton has beaten Rogan that puts him way out in front of all the other brits...and is possibly ahead of pianetta as far as euro wins goes
i think its sosnowski 1 and sexton 2
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 09:46
by stujones
funso banjo baby wrote:we're getting a bit bogged down with legitimacy arguments.
the british and euro titles get passed around willy nilly and always tend to stagnate ...it goes without saying that the euro champ isnt the number one ranked in europe these days.
we should consider the ebu the same way we do wbf or wbo or wba.... its just a bauble
who do we think should be the legit 1 and 2 contenders then ? dont forget sexton has beaten Rogan that puts him way out in front of all the other brits...and is possibly ahead of pianetta as far as euro wins goes
i think its sosnowski 1 and sexton 2
Well really it should be anyone from Europe who is not a world champion.
So I would say Valuev, Chagaev, Adamek, Povetkin, Virchis, Boystov, Ustinov, Maskaev, Pianetta and a few others should be all ahead of Sexton - who I would have significantly ahead of Harrison. Who should be below Sprott, Rogan, Sosnowski, Skelton (domestically) - maybe you could also add Chisora, Fury and McDermott to the list.
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 08:59
by TempleSlave
None of those two is great, but Albert has a lot more heart
Sosnowski UD or late KO.
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 13:43
by leforge
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 16 Jan 2010, 17:19
by jameswilson
I bet if Tomasz Bonin had got the shot vs Sosnowski nobody would be crying their eyes out half as much as some of the guys in this thread. It would just be 'yeah its a voluntary defence he wants an easy payday, good luck to him.'
Sosnowski has agreed to this because its a fight he can win and one that he can actually make a lot of money out of. Risk vs reward.
Re: Audley lands European title shot
Posted: 16 Jan 2010, 17:52
by stujones
jameswilson wrote:I bet if Tomasz Bonin had got the shot vs Sosnowski nobody would be crying their eyes out half as much as some of the guys in this thread. It would just be 'yeah its a voluntary defence he wants an easy payday, good luck to him.'
Sosnowski has agreed to this because its a fight he can win and one that he can actually make a lot of money out of. Risk vs reward.
Sorry disagree - a fighter smashed in a round in his last fight of note.... sorry would never accept Bonin to fight for the European title. EU title, maybe.
I like to think I would be critical of all any fighter not deserving of a shot, nationality doesn't come into it (for me).