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Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 12:43
by NazNaci1
boxingchat wrote:Why is it when fighters such as Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank leave Barry Hearn there is no scandal, despite both commenting that they were 'screwed' - at least half a dozen top snooker players left him also citing mismanagement.

In fact, if you compare their records more sportsmen have left Barry Hearn than have ever left allegedly and with much less money in their pockets too.

How many Boxing millionaires has Hearn made? Eubank? Benn? I can't think of any more and hardly a comparison to Warren whose list would go into double figures.

However, when Khan leaves Warren, after his contarct has expired, it's a great scandal and people expect skullduggery. This is just another example of Anti-Warren bile on Boxrec.

So, Mr McNeilly what is the "definative fight of the last 30 years" that Hearn promoted?

Surely you are not referring to Benn V Eubank 2? The one he co-promoted with Don King and allegedly because they were the only two who could raise the TV money needed to stage it in the first place?

The same fight where Nigel Benn sacked the halo-wearing Hearn the day before the show for trying to screw him by not paying the WBO sanction fee so that he couldn't win it and Eubank wouldn't lose it regardless of the result. The same one where he scarpered off afterwards due to the draw rather than go forward with the unification package he had agreed with his partners FW and DK and thus deprieved the fans of some great fights.

You lot don't really know what you are talking about. Even Spud has a better view on things than most these days.
My Ayling, you do raise some points, but you could hardly be classed as impartial. :OhYes:

And tell Fwank, what was with the 'tear in the eye' Sun column? We are more accustomed to bitter rants :DDD

And ask him about 'loyalty', will he ever pay Joe Calzaghe?

Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 15:51
by Spud
boxingchat wrote:Why is it when fighters such as Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank leave Barry Hearn there is no scandal, despite both commenting that they were 'screwed' - at least half a dozen top snooker players left him also citing mismanagement.

In fact, if you compare their records more sportsmen have left Barry Hearn than have ever left allegedly and with much less money in their pockets too.

How many Boxing millionaires has Hearn made? Eubank? Benn? I can't think of any more and hardly a comparison to Warren whose list would go into double figures.

However, when Khan leaves Warren, after his contarct has expired, it's a great scandal and people expect skullduggery. This is just another example of Anti-Warren bile on Boxrec.

So, Mr McNeilly what is the "definative fight of the last 30 years" that Hearn promoted?

Surely you are not referring to Benn V Eubank 2? The one he co-promoted with Don King and allegedly because they were the only two who could raise the TV money needed to stage it in the first place?

The same fight where Nigel Benn sacked the halo-wearing Hearn the day before the show for trying to screw him by not paying the WBO sanction fee so that he couldn't win it and Eubank wouldn't lose it regardless of the result. The same one where he scarpered off afterwards due to the draw rather than go forward with the unification package he had agreed with his partners FW and DK and thus deprieved the fans of some great fights.

You lot don't really know what you are talking about. Even Spud has a better view on things than most these days.
Boxing Tw*t From Brentwood Who Crys When He Is Sacked

Whilst I completely agree with your very last comment 100% - please lets not get pally it has to be one of my very worst nightmares having to associate myself with you - I am proud of the FACT I am disliked a lot more than you on here and I have great fun goading the life out of certain people as they do with me.

Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 16:05
by Asterix
boxingchat wrote:Why is it when fighters such as Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank leave Barry Hearn there is no scandal, despite both commenting that they were 'screwed' - at least half a dozen top snooker players left him also citing mismanagement.
I know someone who currently works for Barry Hearn and they say that he treats them very well. All of your post is just to big up Warren and be negative about Hearn. Very silly.

Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 16:08
by Spud
MachoMan09 wrote:
Spud wrote:Boxing Tw*t From Brentwood Who Crys When He Is Sacked
:lol: :lol:

Have you still not got your anger management issues under control after all these years? I dissapear for half a decade or so and the world does not change. Brilliant. I missed you, Spud. :DD
:TU: :TU:

Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 16:58
by phil5555
Spud wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:
Spud wrote:Boxing Tw*t From Brentwood Who Crys When He Is Sacked
:lol: :lol:

Have you still not got your anger management issues under control after all these years? I dissapear for half a decade or so and the world does not change. Brilliant. I missed you, Spud. :DD
:TU: :TU:
Spud why dont you get your gloves on and have a match with boxing chat you dont pull any punches :bag: :bag: :bag:

Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 17:31
by Spud
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Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 17:33
by Spud
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Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 17:40
by coghaugen11
Eubank 'screwed' by Hearn? That's a new one. Hearn got him on live terrestrial TV, got him the Benn fight, and let him pick the rest of his opponents; all the while allowing him to nail 10's of millions of pounds.

Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 03:33
by hurlock
phil5555 wrote:
Spud wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote: :lol: :lol:

Have you still not got your anger management issues under control after all these years? I dissapear for half a decade or so and the world does not change. Brilliant. I missed you, Spud. :DD
:TU: :TU:
Spud why dont you get your gloves on and have a match with boxing chat you dont pull any punches :bag: :bag: :bag:
why dont you?? you know you want too :DDD

also where's barry hearn came into the equasion??? & yes he is an absolute f*ck dog, i know he refers to a term as shamouse when turning people over as did a jess harding who ended up shamoused himself :wink:

promoters take the pee out of tv people & thats way the game is $hite.

Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 04:57
by Spud
Hurlock,

I havn't named Barry Hearn at all - in my opinion he and his staff are top people - who both know how to treat staff, boxers and fans.

I believe Barry Hearn's name was brought up in this thread due to a certain poster who has responded to mine and other peoples posts once worked for him - indeed I believe its that very poster who has not been very complimentary about Hearn in the past.

Hearn and especially is boxing advisor John Wichusen are top people who will do anything to help people.

Re: is f wazza losing his touch

Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 12:30
by bennie
They say the fight is on, after all. They say Britain's Amir Khan tests his chin, his 'bottle', his attempt to 'crack' America, his body and soul, his entire boxing future when he defends his WBA light-welterweight title at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas on April 3 against huge Argentine puncher Marcos Maidana.
On the very same night here, Londoner David Haye defends his WBA heavyweight title against John Ruiz. Now, that I believe – but Khan versus Maidana? I was under the impression that Freddie Roach, Khan's celebrated trainer, did not fancy Maidana, a man with a self-explanatory record of 27-1 (26), a man who can really hurt you. Ok, Maidana's one loss came on a 12-round split decision to Andreas Kotelnik last year, and Khan then pasted Kotelnik for the WBA title. However, Maidana came back with a thrilling up-and-down win over "Vicious" Victor Ortiz on Roach territory in Los Angeles to secure mandatory status to Khan - outpunching and outgaming the touted Ortiz. Roach, known round these parts nowadays as "The Poacher", then made it quite clear he wanted Khan to avoid Maidana by handing in the big WBA belt but maybe Freddie has been overruled by Khan's new promoter, Oscar De La Hoya, or De La Hoya's shifty right-hand man Richard Schaefer.
The stigma and fallout of Khan's 54-second destruction at the hands of an unknown but unbeaten Colombian Breidis Prescott in 2008 lingers in the memory of every British boxing man, but Schaefer, a former Swiss banker, or De La Hoya, never far away from a mirror, hardly 'know' the Bolton youngster like Khan's former promoter F rank Warren. To them, Prescott was recently outclassed by an unknown kid from Dagenham by the name of Kevin Mitchell.
Warren, who brought Khan back brilliantly from the Prescott disaster, would probably have taken Maidana for his former charge - but Khan is scheduled to face Maidana and Juan Manuel Marquez within a month of each other (Marquez at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on May 1). This living nightmare is something Warren would never have tolerated. Marquez remains the only man in boxing to have twice beaten Manny Pacquiao (only to get jobbed both times). If Khan wants to explode on to the American scene, he is certainly going the right way about it - but you wonder what the rush is? The boy from Bolton in Lancashire, just turned 23, is still improving, still enjoying fantastic reflexes and speed, still feeling the affects of Prescott's left hands (including a jab which first got him going), still to make his US debut.
Golden Boy Promotions (De La Hoya and Schaefer) run the risk of breaking Khan's heart, here, of breaking his American dream before it barely even starts. They say God laughs at those who make plans, particularly stupid plans.