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I watched Holmes vs Shavers II for the first time last night, & I believe that the "slip" in round 9 was in fact a knockdown. A flash one, but still.

Not that it mattered, of course 'cos Larry nearly killed Shavers that night, but still...

yancey wrote:

granberry wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote: Wrong. If he slips, he slips. Ala, Ali in round eleven.

Not that the clueless Granberry could interpret what he saw correctly if he tried. LOL.

Low grade moron Irene wouldn't know a knockdown if it hit him in the teeth.

Ali "slipped" when Frazier hit him on the chin with a left hook. LOL.

Next Ali shill irene will tell us that Merchante did not stick his fingers in Frazier's eye.

Tell us how you really feel about Irene, Gran.

C'mon, don't be shy.

LOL. Yeah, Frazier floored Ali in round eleven.

Seen any airborne bacon lately, Gran-ma?

Michael Dokes put down George Chaplin in the first round of their fight.Referee didn't call it.

Lewis-Tyson springs to mind - Mike was swatting, the nearest body part to the ground was probably his backside, which still would have been almost a foot off the canvas.

Poor first example with Holyfield-Cooper, that was a legit KD because the ropes saved him from going down. I actually really like this rule, although it leaves a lot to the ref's discretion. I think there is a big difference between a fighter deliberately using the ropes to his advantage, and a fighter being unconsciously held up by the ropes.

It's not as if Holyfield was unconscious, though --- he clearly grabbed at the ropes to prevent a knockdown (ala Marquez against Vazquez, in their third skirmish).

I know that's the rule, & I understand why it exists, but I really think it ought to be re-thought, or, at least, judiciously re-tooled.

You should be down if any part of you touches the canvas outside of your feet, but not under any other circumstances, which is not the case with this rule in effect.

Eric Esch (Butterbean) being credited with a knockdown against Holmes always looked very unfair to me.

Collins2000 wrote:

The End wrote:There was a knockdown called in the Lewis Tyson fight that shouldn't have been.

How about the Lewis - Akinwande bout right at the end of round 1 (I think, but years since I saw it). Was that a knockdown?

Lewis' glove touched the canvas. Under the rules that's a knockdown but Lane didn't call it (or see it, apparently).

granberry wrote:Low grade moron Irene wouldn't know a knockdown if it hit him in the teeth.

I miss the old granner.

Collins2000 wrote:How about the Lewis - Akinwande bout right at the end of round 1 (I think, but years since I saw it). Was that a knockdown?

Yup, it was, but not called

Also Hearns v Andries. Wild swing left caught Hearns and he went down, legs all over the place. Not called, by a very biased ref tbh, who then called Andries final knockdown and stopped (albeit a losing fight) even though he just fell over.

Darling wrote:

granberry wrote:Low grade moron Irene wouldn't know a knockdown if it hit him in the teeth.

I miss the old granner.

That is a pretty funny line, actually. As is your admiration for it when it's been said in response to my taking a viewpoint you surely would agree with. Dolt

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

Darling wrote:

granberry wrote:Low grade moron Irene wouldn't know a knockdown if it hit him in the teeth.

I miss the old granner.

That is a pretty funny line, actually. As is your admiration for it when it's been said in response to my taking a viewpoint you surely would agree with. Dolt

Irene, my dear girl, what is really amusing is someone as limited as yourself referring to another poster as a 'dolt'.

yancey wrote:Any opinions on whether or not Chuvalo got knocked down in his fight with Bonavena?

I guess there are no opinions on whether or not Chuvalo got knocked down in the Bonavena fight.

50/50 by all acounts, punch and a bit of a push.

I don't really recall seeing it but I have little interest for heavyweights.