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MrBoxingUK2 wrote:it is banned in ZERO STATES. it is completely legal. all these floyd haters are just trying to clutch at straws

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ALI wrote:

DG. wrote:Add to that a fighter can use it up to 7 days BEFORE THE FIGHT and not during..

I've read that on several different sites, i've also read its a new rule not long since being introduced.

Given this information is correct, the NSAC would be treating Xylocaine as a PED if injected seven days or earlier before a fight, would'nt you say?

No, its like liquids, you can use 'gatorade' for recovery, but not during the fight.

You cab never use HGH/Steroids before or after.....Thats illegal

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mosley20101 wrote:Where did Floyd fight Shamba Mitchell? Henry bruseles? Arthuro Gatti? Corley? Ndou? Sosa?

Go look up the locations of the fights on boxrec.

I'm aware of Mayweather's history as much as the next man. His last five fights spanning over the last 5 years have all been in Nevada. That may mean nothing as to be fair, they were all marquee fights, but it could be that he likes to fight in Nevada these days so he can use Xylocaine. Given that its 'reportedly' banned in all other states across the country, is that such an irritional thought?

I'm struggling to find reliable information on wether Xylocaine is actually banned in any state in America. Can anyone get any concrete information on this?

Lenny wrote:I can't believe you're suggesting all of Floyd's recent big fights have been in Vegas to get away with using Xylocaine?

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MachoMan09 wrote:Interesting. If the drug is prescribed, however, is he not permitted to use it?

In the state of Nevada he is, so legally he is doing nothing wrong. But its a banned PED in every other state and its obvious why. It numbs the hands giving a him a clear and obvious advantage.

Perhaps this Xylocaine can be used effictively elsewhere in the body, the arms, legs, i really dont know. I'm sure most fighters would'nt mind having their noses all numbed up before the first bell rings

rhino222 wrote:xylocaine (other names lignocaine or lidocaine) is a local anaesthetic, it does have uses intravenously to combat cardiac arrythmias but in normal medical terms it is the local anaesthetic that you would use to remove a mole, or the dentist might use to remove a tooth.

it is short acting (perhaps 90 mins tops) .... bupivicaine (marcain) lasts maybe 4 times longer and is the type of solution a cricketer might have into a broken finger to allow hom to go out to bat.

xylocaines only potential use in boxing would be to act as a local anaesthetic nerve block (finger/wrist) to allow a fighter to fight with an injury. trouble is the injury would/could get worse without the fighter knowing it was getting worse.

to mask pain is its only positive in boxing, it is certainly no kind of stimulant.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think this is a storm in a tea cup personally, it's clear mayweather has ban hands and uses this substance to mask the pain, what is the big deal. Without it, it is quite possible he would not be able to fight at all.

ALI wrote:Thats an interesting article Miron posted a link to above, it was in The Times newspaper back in December 07 during the build up to Hatton v Mayweather fight. In short, Hatton's camp were doing all they could to ensure Mayweather would not be getting these numbing injections pre-fight. It proves there were firm objections to his use of this in the past.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think this is a storm in a tea cup personally, it's clear mayweather has ban hands and uses this substance to mask the pain, what is the big deal. Without it, it is quite possible he would not be able to fight at all.

I'm not sure what to make of Mayweather's use of this stuff, the facts are all to sketchy to get to any sort of conclusion. But i will say that in boxing your hands are your weapons. Many fighters suffer from hand problems, it comes with the teritory. But it should never be legal to numb them up pre-fight, thats definately not right.

rhino222 wrote:no different to numbing your head with various non opiate analgesics, that would stop punches hurting too.....where do we draw the line?

are you saying usaine bolt cant run the 100 metres with a local injection in his ankle cos it hurts??

ALI wrote:

rhino222 wrote:no different to numbing your head with various non opiate analgesics, that would stop punches hurting too.....where do we draw the line?

are you saying usaine bolt cant run the 100 metres with a local injection in his ankle cos it hurts??

Thats an interesting anology, but i dont think its quite that simple. For a start, would a runner numbing part of their leg not actually hinder them? I'm not sure, but if not and said runner wanted to inject lidocaine into their ankle before a race, he/she would only be doing so because of a definate injury he/she is suffering from. Can we be so sure about a boxers use of the stuff?

Are you really so sure that this stuff could not be used to create an advantage? Hands are one thing, but could it also be injected into other parts of the body to dampen the pain from punches?

Listen, Dr Rhino, it is banned under some athletic commissions, how about you tell us why exactly that is?