Evidently I did not read the newspaper article that sweet sci posted very closely. It does say that Ingo staggered to his feet at a count of 4 as the bell was ringing.
I thought that both of the articles I quoted implied it that he was still down, though they could have been more clear. Especially the "Boxing Register" saying that Johansson "literally' was saved by the bell. To me that indicates that he was still down.
This makes you want to see the fight even more, especially the last round. Would also be interesting to time it and see if London's claim that the last round was cut short was true.
As a side note, I noticed the article that sweet sci posted also mentioned that Johansson's European title was not on the line. In the "Boxing Encyclopedia" it is listed as a European title fight.
Re: Brian London-British HW Champ 1958-59 thread
Posted: 20 Jan 2011, 16:29
by Collins2000
Maybe Woller can upload the last round to Youtube...
Re: Brian London-British HW Champ 1958-59 thread
Posted: 20 Jan 2011, 17:59
by Brutu
Here is a link to another photograph from Johansson vs London
(round seven).
...i've never seen the fight, though i did see a reproduction of a photo which shows johannson on the canvas, looks as if he is out, and the headline over the picture said "Wake up, ingo, you won"
i also recall ingo saying his sister could beat brian london, and a reporter said maybe she could be the opponent in ingo's next fight. ingo was too smart, though...there was no next fight with sis or anyone.
i have a clear memory of brian london fighting flloyd patterson and around the seventh round brian was looking for a soft spot on the canvas. he finally found one and sat down gently so as not to raise any dust from the canvas.
Re: Brian London-British HW Champ 1958-59 thread
Posted: 01 Feb 2011, 16:38
by Old bones Ian
[quote="jaclem2"]...i've never seen the fight, though i did see a reproduction of a photo which shows johannson on the canvas, looks as if he is out, and the headline over the picture said "Wake up, ingo, you won"
i also recall ingo saying his sister could beat brian london, and a reporter said maybe she could be the opponent in ingo's next fight. ingo was too smart, though...there was no next fight with sis or anyone.
i have a clear memory of brian london fighting flloyd patterson and around the seventh round brian was looking for a soft spot on the canvas. he finally found one and sat down gently so as not to raise any dust from the canvas.[/quote]
couldn't of been that clear a memory , as London didn't go down till the 11th, but yes he was looking hurt and sorry for himself from around the 7th
Re: Brian London-British HW Champ 1958-59 thread
Posted: 01 Feb 2011, 16:40
by Old bones Ian
As a side note, Ingo was ringside for the Patterson v London fight, and it was watching this that made up his mind he could beat Patterson, as he found him quick but over estimated in the power department.
Re: Brian London-British HW Champ 1958-59 thread
Posted: 01 Feb 2011, 16:47
by Old bones Ian
Also London was always good for a quote,
Before the Ali fight Howard Cosell thought he'd get a reaction from London.
Cosell "Brian, they say your a patsy, a dirty fighter, that you have no class, that your just in there for a ride and a fast payday. and that you have no chance against Ali, what do you say about that?"
London "Go f*ck yourself!"
The producer shouted "No, thats not what Howard thinks its what others have been saying"
So the next take, London replies "Who ever says that can go f*cuk themselves!"
Re: Brian London-British HW Champ 1958-59 thread
Posted: 01 Feb 2011, 17:20
by jaclem2
old bones.....I didn't say london was stopped in the seventh...i said he was looking as if he wanted to get out of there around the seventh. i know the end came later...so your post verifies my own clear memory. thank you.
Re: Brian London-British HW Champ 1958-59 thread
Posted: 01 Feb 2011, 18:02
by Old bones Ian
jaclem2 wrote:old bones.....I didn't say london was stopped in the seventh...i said he was looking as if he wanted to get out of there around the seventh. i know the end came later...so your post verifies my own clear memory. thank you.
fair enough mate
Re: Dick Richardson-vrs-Brian London/EHT/ring riot/(1960)
Anyone purchase a copy of that book before it seemingly vanished ?
Re: Brian London-British HW Champ 1958-59 thread
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 17:24
by Kalan
Old bones Ian wrote:Also London was always good for a quote,
Before the Ali fight Howard Cosell thought he'd get a reaction from London.
Cosell "Brian, they say your a patsy, a dirty fighter, that you have no class, that your just in there for a ride and a fast payday. and that you have no chance against Ali, what do you say about that?"
London "Go f*ck yourself!"
The producer shouted "No, thats not what Howard thinks its what others have been saying"
So the next take, London replies "Who ever says that can go f*cuk themselves!"
He should have told Cosell to screw himself on every take. Cosell had a penchant for asking stupid, insulting questions. And I often thought Jim Gray must be related to somebody to keep his job. He asks the dumbest questions and he's the most award interviewer I've ever seen.
The London fight convinced Ingo to retire. His chin was completely gone and he knew it. He took no risks in the London fight and barely survived.