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Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 13:26
by whicker
The worst, I'd imagine, are when there are two groups of rival fans , both pissed up.

Given the lack of decent matchmaking at the moment, that doesn't happen much.

I think Ritchie Woodhall said of Christie V Kaylor- is Chritie had won, there would have been a riot!

And think back to the feeling expressed towards Hagler when he beat Minter.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 13:41
by whicker
I tend to agree- if boxing was cheap- £10 or so , then no worries- I'd take a chance, and walk out if it got spoiled. But for £30, £50, £100 tickets etc I can't risk losing that much money on an event that is ruined by dullards.

I've been going to the theatre a lot recently (not 100% my choice) but it's only been £7, £10 etc- same with wrestling- £7, £12 etc and less for the children.

Even if it's poor, then "so what" , no big deal. Usually it's good fun.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 13:46
by leforge
whicker wrote:I tend to agree- if boxing was cheap- £10 or so , then no worries- I'd take a chance, and walk out if it got spoiled. But for £30, £50, £100 tickets etc I can't risk losing that much money on an event that is ruined by dullards.

I've been going to the theatre a lot recently (not 100% my choice) but it's only been £7, £10 etc- same with wrestling- £7, £12 etc and less for the children.

Even if it's poor, then "so what" , no big deal. Usually it's good fun.
Wrestling and Theatre you ok?

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 14:10
by Flav1
Khan and Barrera was the worst I've seen for trouble. And I'm pretty sure it's a race thing, as it was mostly whites going for Asians where I was sitting...

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 14:13
by mickey1975
Flav1 wrote:Khan and Barrera was the worst I've seen for trouble. And I'm pretty sure it's a race thing, as it was mostly whites going for Asians where I was sitting...
Ive been to a few Khan fights,and "the Asians" arent innocent bystanders by any means.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 14:15
by banjo
They're as bad as each other, effing pudenda the lot of them.

Khan fights tend to attract illiterates who say "innit" a lot.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 14:18
by whicker
leforge wrote:
whicker wrote:I tend to agree- if boxing was cheap- £10 or so , then no worries- I'd take a chance, and walk out if it got spoiled. But for £30, £50, £100 tickets etc I can't risk losing that much money on an event that is ruined by dullards.

I've been going to the theatre a lot recently (not 100% my choice) but it's only been £7, £10 etc- same with wrestling- £7, £12 etc and less for the children.

Even if it's poor, then "so what" , no big deal. Usually it's good fun.
Wrestling and Theatre you ok?
For light hearted entertainment, wrestling can't be beat. The pre-planned, matches are still significantly less predicatable than 95% of boxing matches. (True.)

As for theatre, well, it contains a surprising ammount of nudity! :OhYes:

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 14:25
by kevo
banjo wrote:They're as bad as each other, effing pudenda the lot of them.

Khan fights tend to attract illiterates who say "innit" a lot.
Yep. Was at the Khan-Barrera fight and there was a pretty bad atmosphere.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 14:29
by banjo
What irritates me is the "oh it's the football crowd again" when it isn't really is it, it's just the British mentality again, can't do anything or go anywhere without wrecking or abusing something/someone. You get them at football matches yes, usually stand there shouting abuse at the players, referee, opposition fans but actually know fornicate all about the game they're at, not exactly real fans are they? Seems like boxing venues are their evening haunts.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 14:45
by whicker
banjo wrote:What irritates me is the "oh it's the football crowd again" when it isn't really is it, it's just the British mentality again, can't do anything or go anywhere without wrecking or abusing something/someone. You get them at football matches yes, usually stand there shouting abuse at the players, referee, opposition fans but actually know eff all about the game they're at, not exactly real fans are they? Seems like boxing venues are their evening haunts.
Frankly, I wonder where they get their money from! £50 for a ticket to an event they don't bother to watch most of?

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 09:27
by saturday_kid
I know there has been bits of trouble recently but when you consider the "elements" that are often at boxing, each boxers "boisterious" fans (some of which could have rivalries from other boxers area etc), local gangsters/hardmen, football hooligans who've attached themselves to a boxer etc I dont think its too bad, we dont have to worry too much imo, yes there are sporadic incidents of violence but mostly they can be avoided if your just there for the boxing.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 18:10
by arzilo
saturday_kid wrote:I know there has been bits of trouble recently but when you consider the "elements" that are often at boxing, each boxers "boisterious" fans (some of which could have rivalries from other boxers area etc), local gangsters/hardmen, football hooligans who've attached themselves to a boxer etc I dont think its too bad, we dont have to worry too much imo, yes there are sporadic incidents of violence but mostly they can be avoided if your just there for the boxing.
i have to disagree with you all i think that there is nothing wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events. we do it because it shows how much we support our favourite fighters and where we are from. THIS IS NO JOKE.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 18:28
by TerribleTerry
arzilo wrote:
saturday_kid wrote:I know there has been bits of trouble recently but when you consider the "elements" that are often at boxing, each boxers "boisterious" fans (some of which could have rivalries from other boxers area etc), local gangsters/hardmen, football hooligans who've attached themselves to a boxer etc I dont think its too bad, we dont have to worry too much imo, yes there are sporadic incidents of violence but mostly they can be avoided if your just there for the boxing.
i have to disagree with you all i think that there is nothing wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events. we do it because it shows how much we support our favourite fighters and where we are from. THIS IS NO JOKE.
.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 01:03
by Deserter
arzilo wrote:
saturday_kid wrote:I know there has been bits of trouble recently but when you consider the "elements" that are often at boxing, each boxers "boisterious" fans (some of which could have rivalries from other boxers area etc), local gangsters/hardmen, football hooligans who've attached themselves to a boxer etc I dont think its too bad, we dont have to worry too much imo, yes there are sporadic incidents of violence but mostly they can be avoided if your just there for the boxing.
i have to disagree with you all i think that there is nothing wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events. we do it because it shows how much we support our favourite fighters and where we are from. THIS IS NO JOKE.
No, whichever way you cut it, whether it's :lol: or :roll: ,this post is most definitely a joke.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 03:13
by teddy007
arzilo wrote:
saturday_kid wrote:I know there has been bits of trouble recently but when you consider the "elements" that are often at boxing, each boxers "boisterious" fans (some of which could have rivalries from other boxers area etc), local gangsters/hardmen, football hooligans who've attached themselves to a boxer etc I dont think its too bad, we dont have to worry too much imo, yes there are sporadic incidents of violence but mostly they can be avoided if your just there for the boxing.
i have to disagree with you all i think that there is nothing wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events. we do it because it shows how much we support our favourite fighters and where we are from. THIS IS NO JOKE.
I get the feeling you support Khan and come from England but you think you come from Pakistan but have never actually been there.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 07:16
by Wales
arzilo wrote:
saturday_kid wrote:I know there has been bits of trouble recently but when you consider the "elements" that are often at boxing, each boxers "boisterious" fans (some of which could have rivalries from other boxers area etc), local gangsters/hardmen, football hooligans who've attached themselves to a boxer etc I dont think its too bad, we dont have to worry too much imo, yes there are sporadic incidents of violence but mostly they can be avoided if your just there for the boxing.
i have to disagree with you all i think that there is nothing wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events. we do it because it shows how much we support our favourite fighters and where we are from. THIS IS NO JOKE.
What a whopper.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 07:45
by tannervegas
arzilo wrote:
i have to disagree with you all i think that there is nothing wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events. we do it because it shows how much we support our favourite fighters and where we are from. THIS IS NO JOKE.
Dick

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 07:48
by banjo
arzilo wrote:
saturday_kid wrote:I know there has been bits of trouble recently but when you consider the "elements" that are often at boxing, each boxers "boisterious" fans (some of which could have rivalries from other boxers area etc), local gangsters/hardmen, football hooligans who've attached themselves to a boxer etc I dont think its too bad, we dont have to worry too much imo, yes there are sporadic incidents of violence but mostly they can be avoided if your just there for the boxing.
i have to disagree with you all i think that there is nothing wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events. we do it because it shows how much we support our favourite fighters and where we are from. THIS IS NO JOKE.
Actually there is quite a lot wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events because it usually results in some completely innocent punter getting clobbered by some dickhead who's had too much to drink.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 07:50
by dondada
arzilo wrote:
saturday_kid wrote:I know there has been bits of trouble recently but when you consider the "elements" that are often at boxing, each boxers "boisterious" fans (some of which could have rivalries from other boxers area etc), local gangsters/hardmen, football hooligans who've attached themselves to a boxer etc I dont think its too bad, we dont have to worry too much imo, yes there are sporadic incidents of violence but mostly they can be avoided if your just there for the boxing.
i have to disagree with you all i think that there is nothing wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events. we do it because it shows how much we support our favourite fighters and where we are from. THIS IS NO JOKE.
Ban him.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 08:00
by RLewis
I think trouble used to be much worse. These days there is large amount of small incidents, which often seem to flare up during long gaps in the boxing, but I haven't seen a big riot since Harrison v Ellis, which was started by Harrison's own security.

There always used to be trouble at Tony Sibson fights, I remember trouble at Sibson v Lucas and tear gas was used at Sibson v Tate. McCracken v Foster was particularly bad. McCracken v Till was a nasty one, while there was tons of trouble at Wembley Stadium for Bruno v Witherspoon.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 08:03
by Nightmare Roy
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
whicker wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Genuine bother at boxing is few and far between.
I've found it to be uncomfortably common.

Of 11 shows I've attended recently, there has been serious troublemaking/violence in the crowd near where I was sitting at 4 of them.

Have you ever thought that YOU could be the problem?

Only joking mate. :box:

I've been to scores and scores of boxing bills and there hasn't been much bother. You're pretty much guaranteed some idiots kicking off at a Khan fight, mind.

Actually, I've been to two shows when riots stopped the whole bill (Rotherham and Darlington). Maybe I'm just so used to it I don't really notice it anymore. Tony Moran's fans tried to storm the ring when Hobson sparked him, I remember.
Boxing is violent so your bound to get violent people attending.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 10:06
by arzilo
teddy007 wrote:
arzilo wrote:
saturday_kid wrote:I know there has been bits of trouble recently but when you consider the "elements" that are often at boxing, each boxers "boisterious" fans (some of which could have rivalries from other boxers area etc), local gangsters/hardmen, football hooligans who've attached themselves to a boxer etc I dont think its too bad, we dont have to worry too much imo, yes there are sporadic incidents of violence but mostly they can be avoided if your just there for the boxing.
i have to disagree with you all i think that there is nothing wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events. we do it because it shows how much we support our favourite fighters and where we are from. THIS IS NO JOKE.
I get the feeling you support Khan and come from England but you think you come from Pakistan but have never actually been there.
i am not from pakistan im pure english and it is no joke i believe thereis nothing wrong with showing your passion when it heats up. I CANT WAIT TO GOT TO MANCHESTER FOR HAYE - RUIZ IM EXPECTING A LOT OF TROUBLE THERE GUARENTEED.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 10:17
by teddy007
arzilo wrote:
teddy007 wrote:
arzilo wrote: i have to disagree with you all i think that there is nothing wrong with people starting trouble at boxing events. we do it because it shows how much we support our favourite fighters and where we are from. THIS IS NO JOKE.
I get the feeling you support Khan and come from England but you think you come from Pakistan but have never actually been there.
i am not from pakistan im pure english and it is no joke i believe thereis nothing wrong with showing your passion when it heats up. I CANT WAIT TO GOT TO MANCHESTER FOR HAYE - RUIZ IM EXPECTING A LOT OF TROUBLE THERE GUARENTEED.
Shut up you f*cking D1ck head, i get the feeling you will be barred so good buy you fool.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 10:24
by arzilo
teddy007 wrote:
arzilo wrote:
teddy007 wrote: I get the feeling you support Khan and come from England but you think you come from Pakistan but have never actually been there.
i am not from pakistan im pure english and it is no joke i believe thereis nothing wrong with showing your passion when it heats up. I CANT WAIT TO GOT TO MANCHESTER FOR HAYE - RUIZ IM EXPECTING A LOT OF TROUBLE THERE GUARENTEED.
Shut up you f*cking D1ck head, i get the feeling you will be barred so good buy you fool.
bristol have got the best fans in britain and you will all see in manchester on april 3rd we will batter everyone who wants it so bring it on you bums. your all whimps and losers.

Re: England 'fans' at Night of the Champions

Posted: 17 Feb 2010, 10:28
by chris s
The trouble we have seen recently is nothing to compared to the likes of McCracken v Foster and the amateur show involving McCreesh.