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Re: Primo Carnera Appreciation Thread

Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 08:26
by SaadOffTheDeck
Alex wrote:
Brutu wrote:Larry Gains a superior boxer to Primo Carnera?
That's debatable.
Not from what I have seen of the existing fight footage of the two.
Carnera appeared to have a better repertoire of punches and combintions,
as well as defensive moves.Also Carnera appeared to be more mobile in the ring.
It is, but you couldn't debate it for long: Gains was a decent boxer with fast hands and feet for a heavyweight and a good jab, whereas - let's face it - the 'Ambling Alp' was never noted for his slick boxing ability. I don't know how you can discern this better repertoire of punches and combinations, or what kind of defensive moves the muscle-bound Carnera had. He looks pretty plodding and one-dimensional in all the footage I've seen of him, though admittedly he was a better fighter than he was given credit for being.

I'm inclined to trust the judgement of the newspapermen who watched all 10 rounds of the Carnera-Gains fight ahead of the analysis of some grainy, fragmented two-minute clip that's supposed to represent 30 minutes of action. And in any case, all I can see from the footage is the big man repeatedly missing and getting hit a lot by the smaller Canadian. I think Gains deserves a lot of credit for overcoming a five-stone weight disadvantage – he’d probably only be a cruiserweight today!

Nice post, it's actually pretty surprising how many people consider Carnera a respectable fighter. This is the first time I've ever seen someone laud his defensive abilities. That is just comical. He was big and tough. That's it.

Re: Primo Carnera Appreciation Thread

Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 10:38
by BoxBuzz
With Carnera it's all about losing our ability to objectively assess because we want to be "kind".

However if you used that approach as a trainer on an up and coming boxer he would be "killed by kindness". Honesty in assessing is important. Don't let nostalgia tug at your heartstrings.

When it comes to who to believe between your "heart" and your "lying eyes", ALWAYS go with your perjurios peepers.