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Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 05:30
by foxdog1923
Cameron and Leapai would be a good fight but I still feel that Shane would beat Leapai. Alex has drawn 3 times against pretty average fighters, I know it was in the past and Leapai has progressed well from that but for the record, it remains. Another thing is when you look at the calibre of fighters that Alex has fought compared to the ones that Shane has fought you'd have to say that Cameron seems to be in the premier league with Shane fighting guys from Australia, New Zealand and America as well as a former world number 1 contender in David Tua. When you look at the "bad boys" Alex has proved himself against many are lowly ranked Australasian boxers.

However Leapai does have some good power and if he were to somehow spar regularly with Ben Edwards and Kali Meehan he'd become a more rounded boxer. IMO.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 06:25
by isabella
foxdog1923 wrote:Cameron and Leapai would be a good fight but I still feel that Shane would beat Leapai. Alex has drawn 3 times against pretty average fighters, I know it was in the past and Leapai has progressed well from that but for the record, it remains. Another thing is when you look at the calibre of fighters that Alex has fought compared to the ones that Shane has fought you'd have to say that Cameron seems to be in the premier league with Shane fighting guys from Australia, New Zealand and America as well as a former world number 1 contender in David Tua. When you look at the "bad boys" Alex has proved himself against many are lowly ranked Australasian boxers.

However Leapai does have some good power and if he were to somehow spar regularly with Ben Edwards and Kali Meehan he'd become a more rounded boxer. IMO.
i know edwards mentioned on his facebook he spars leapai on regular basis including haumono and meehan as seen on youtube.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 27 Mar 2010, 00:11
by colin russell
Foxdog one of those draws against average fighters was Alexs first pro fight against a guy whos record was 5 fights for 5 ko wins hes name is Mark DeMorei. The same guy that said he would never fight alex again.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 27 Mar 2010, 01:41
by isabella
colin russell wrote:Foxdog one of those draws against average fighters was Alexs first pro fight against a guy whos record was 5 fights for 5 ko wins hes name is Mark DeMorei. The same guy that said he would never fight alex again.
Leapai V Demori 2 love to see that :TU:

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 27 Mar 2010, 05:54
by dberry
isabella wrote:A great tasman match for Leapai instead of Mirovic for the interim WBO oriental,as it's already posted on the eastside Leapai wants Cameron.
A more worthy fight indeed, Isabella.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 27 Mar 2010, 06:41
by Sweet P
colin russell wrote:Foxdog one of those draws against average fighters was Alexs first pro fight against a guy whos record was 5 fights for 5 ko wins hes name is Mark DeMorei. The same guy that said he would never fight alex again.
I speak to Mark fairly regulary and he dosnt seem the sort of guy that would be intimidatd by Alex. He might not fight him for the peanuts they offer the 2 of them though.
Mark is in the US trying to make a name for himself, he is looking for an opponent at the moment for a card in Mexico. He is over there living,eating ,sleeping boxing in camp and I think the oppurtunity's there far outweigh coming back here to fight Leapi.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 29 Mar 2010, 20:23
by colin russell
ben k Im not haveing a go at Mark im just letting some in here know that Alex Leipe has never backed down from anyone.Mark is doing a great job for his future in boxing please keep the foram in the know how hes going. Again no disrespect to him at all.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 23:32
by Totalpac
FYI all Marks latest can be found on twitter.com/markdemori. Very entertaining tweets as they say.

Good to here some people understand that being a pro boxer means trying to make money and make a career from it. Unfortunately fights on the Aussie stage are not going to give you that opportunity in the boxing world 99% of the time.

Yeah I would love to see Leapai v Demori 2 as well, but what would Mark have to gain from it. It's a lose lose for him and that is not trying to disrespect Alex, but simply saying he doesn't have an international name.

Would love to see Leapai v Cameron even more after the Hoppa debacle.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 00:03
by buster007
i keep hearing this about de mori having gone to the usa because of more opportunity, more money, better sparring etc. etc. but its been two years and he has fought only twice there and ended up coming back to have a pointless fight and still has nothing scheduled there.

we've seen that in oz we have mirovic, leapai, haumono, hoppa, cronje, kirby, whitehead, wilson who would all give mark the good rounds that he needs, not to mention the sparring with any of them and if he were to stay undefeated while taking these fights then his paydays would go up sharply.

we have kali meehan who would be handy to spar with and shane cameron who can give him a guide as to where he is too.

if he can't beat all these guys with the exception of meehan then he probably shouldn't be over there anyway. it is pretty much agreed that the above guys won't win a world a world title so u would think he would be better off staying here and beating these guys to show he has proven he has got the goods to fight the top world rated guys.

he is in his prime years and should just start fighting the quality guys now.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 02:00
by Totalpac
I understand what you are saying but disagree. With the exception of Meehan (who he has put his hand up to fight but got knocked back, which by the way I cant understand why it doesn't go ahead, both King HW's, surely Meehan needs to get rid of some rust before getting back in etc) what would fighting any of the other guys prove. Would it really make a difference to King/HBO/Shobox etc if he had these names under his belt. I don't think it would.

If I was his manager I would have him doing exactly what he is doing now, basing himself in the states, training in a camp with world class boxers like Gomez/Martinez/Cayo etc putting his hand up for any fight on the international stage regardless of name ( see fight in Mexico this Saturday) and mixing in the right circles.

I totally agree and Mark would agree to, that if it was up to him he would have liked to have been more busy over the past couple of years, but in regards to a world career, two fights on American cards regardless of opposition I believe is worth more than fighting locally.

Regardless of what happens with Mark's career, boxing has taken him to 8 different countries and allowed him to live essentially a professionals fighters life for the past 3 years. If doing what he is doing prolongs having to work a 9 to 5 and keeping him doing something he loves I think that is reward enough.

Sometimes people want to drag others down when they should be encouraging them to 'Chase the Dream'. 99% of us hate the 9 to 5 grind and if someone else can make a living doing something else and not hurting anyone whilst doing it I will give them my full support. Mark doesn't have to prove anything to anyone at the end of the day except himself and hopefully in 2010 we can see where he is at.

If other HW's are happy doing what they are doing all respect to them and if they weren't happy doing it I am sure they would be doing something else. I am not going to suggest they do something different.

Do what makes you happy not what others think you should do.

An please don't think this is a diss at the Aussie HW's. All I am saying is do what makes you happy, if you want to dominate the Aussie scene do it, if working in a tax office makes you happy do it, just chase that dream.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 02:09
by toppity
Totalpac wrote:I understand what you are saying but disagree. With the exception of Meehan (who he has put his hand up to fight but got knocked back, which by the way I cant understand why it doesn't go ahead, both King HW's, surely Meehan needs to get rid of some rust before getting back in etc) what would fighting any of the other guys prove. Would it really make a difference to King/HBO/Shobox etc if he had these names under his belt. I don't think it would.

If I was his manager I would have him doing exactly what he is doing now, basing himself in the states, training in a camp with world class boxers like Gomez/Martinez/Cayo etc putting his hand up for any fight on the international stage regardless of name ( see fight in Mexico this Saturday) and mixing in the right circles.

I totally agree and Mark would agree to, that if it was up to him he would have liked to have been more busy over the past couple of years, but in regards to a world career, two fights on American cards regardless of opposition I believe is worth more than fighting locally.

Regardless of what happens with Mark's career, boxing has taken him to 8 different countries and allowed him to live essentially a professionals fighters life for the past 3 years. If doing what he is doing prolongs having to work a 9 to 5 and keeping him doing something he loves I think that is reward enough.

Sometimes people want to drag others down when they should be encouraging them to 'Chase the Dream'. 99% of us hate the 9 to 5 grind and if someone else can make a living doing something else and not hurting anyone whilst doing it I will give them my full support. Mark doesn't have to prove anything to anyone at the end of the day except himself and hopefully in 2010 we can see where he is at.

If other HW's are happy doing what they are doing all respect to them and if they weren't happy doing it I am sure they would be doing something else. I am not going to suggest they do something different.

Do what makes you happy not what others think you should do.

An please don't think this is a diss at the Aussie HW's. All I am saying is do what makes you happy, if you want to dominate the Aussie scene do it, if working in a tax office makes you happy do it, just chase that dream.
fornicate the tax office

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 04:35
by buster007
sure, but lets remember not to keep waiting and waiting, cause u only have to look at meehan. he sill might have to wait until haye fights valuev again, and then god knows who after that, so even if meehan beats chagaev he could be waiting another two years before getting a shot at haye. that would mean since he become ranked no.1 3 years ago to when he gets a fight with the champ would have been 5 damn years. good luck to anybody ranked at no.10, lol.

there is no rush, but also don't miss the boat too.

of course mark is not accountable to any of us, but we just like to see him fulfill his potential as fellow aussie boxing supporters.

we keep hearing that there r shitloads more heavies in usa so can u explain to us why not many fights? is it due to money, or is it mark is just a little laid back and more happy to spar and see the sights?

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 07:42
by Totalpac
This is MY OPINON ONLY and again of course I am biased. Maybe.

Mark is definitely not just cruising and happy to see the sights and spar. What I think he wants is fights that are going to get him a better chance at a name fight. He has put his hand up for 'warm up fights' with Raham, Tua, Meehan, Mahone etc and the only person to take him up has been Mahone.

Yeah you can say that these guys have maybe said no because in their eyes there is nothing to gain and who knows what goes on behind close doors in the boxing business. BUT, to me I think Mark is in a difficult position where there isn't much to gain for the 'name fighters' and they check out his video's and see there is a bit to much risk involved in having him as a warm up/come back (as per Mahone).

Again my opinion only, but when you watch his fights you see an 'X' factor and if you were to fight him you don't exactly know what fight plan he will come with so therefore he comes with to much of risk with not much of name at this stage.

One thing he is not is too cruisey and hopefully he will get some rewards in 2010 for all the work he has put in. Anyone that knows him know he is a very humble, good guy and would only want the best for him. By 2011 we will have a pretty good idea of where he is at and if he keeps improving like he has in the past 3 months should be ready to make a name by the time the year ticks over.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 10:03
by dominator
I understand both sides p.o.v, I have had lots of scheduled fights not happen for one reason or another, pretty damn frustrating when you put your heart and soul into training and nothing happens, my manager passed away in dec last year so I have been in limbo a little but not im in USA training, had a 10 round fight on DK card march 26 but the whole show got cancelled, so now i will take a fight in mexico this weekend to get some $ and get rid of some rust, i still dont know who i am fighting but likely a dud knowing there is only a few days left and the money is sub par.

I watch Cameron and Leapais careers with interest as i fought Alex obv and spent time sparring Shane in nz in 06. I feel for Shane Cameron after all his training to fight hoppa and not really get to do much before the ref had enough.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 10:09
by dominator
also after my fight this week i am going into camp with Arreola to help him prepare for Adamek

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 11:00
by caveman
wats wrong with fighting the best in aus,even if it is just to keep active,unless there is a couple that worry him. If that is the case maybe he is not ready for the big fights

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 15:38
by dominator
i signed a contract to fight kali meehan in vegas dec 09, it didnt happen in the end due to reasons out of my control

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 17:19
by toppity
dominator wrote:i signed a contract to fight kali meehan in vegas dec 09, it didnt happen in the end due to reasons out of my control
that is a great shame. It would have been an interesting fight.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 18:56
by dominator
yes it would have been a huge test for me and an awesome opportunity, i am speaking with DK tomorrow so hopefully i have some big news.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 04:58
by Hounddawg
dominator wrote:i signed a contract to fight kali meehan in vegas dec 09, it didnt happen in the end due to reasons out of my control
Hey Mark good to see you posting here again mate, i've just checked the schedule and see you fighting this weekend which is good to see.

However can you put me in touch with a bookie in Mexico because i've got a hunch you're going to win this by DQ :lol:

A fights a fight and i'm glad you're staying active.....keep me posted and all the best.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 08:19
by colin russell
Mark keep us informed please. :bow:

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 19:28
by dominator
i am in mexico now, i didnt know my opponent till i checked here, seems on paper a big time mismatch but i cant overlook anyone, i will be posting updates and pics on http://twitter.com/MarkdeMori , hopefully all goes to script, i get some pesos and some rounds in, see the sights, then head off injury free to camp with arreola next week where i prepare for more meaningful fights.

Back on topic, cameron and leapai, 2 guys i follow and wish all the best, a fight between the two would be a brutal encounter

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 21:41
by isabella
dominator wrote:i am in mexico now, i didnt know my opponent till i checked here, seems on paper a big time mismatch but i cant overlook anyone, i will be posting updates and pics on http://twitter.com/MarkdeMori , hopefully all goes to script, i get some pesos and some rounds in, see the sights, then head off injury free to camp with arreola next week where i prepare for more meaningful fights.

Back on topic, cameron and leapai, 2 guys i follow and wish all the best, a fight between the two would be a brutal encounter
hey mark the guy you taking on Kareem Wilson has been Disqualified 3 times out of his 4 fights for hitting the back of the head and not listening to the the ref sounds like hoppa to me against cameron so good luck mate and hope for the best and watch out for those dirty fighters. :TU:

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 05:05
by Sweet P
isabella wrote:
dominator wrote:i am in mexico now, i didnt know my opponent till i checked here, seems on paper a big time mismatch but i cant overlook anyone, i will be posting updates and pics on http://twitter.com/MarkdeMori , hopefully all goes to script, i get some pesos and some rounds in, see the sights, then head off injury free to camp with arreola next week where i prepare for more meaningful fights.

Back on topic, cameron and leapai, 2 guys i follow and wish all the best, a fight between the two would be a brutal encounter
hey mark the guy you taking on Kareem Wilson has been Disqualified 3 times out of his 4 fights for hitting the back of the head and not listening to the the ref sounds like hoppa to me against cameron so good luck mate and hope for the best and watch out for those dirty fighters. :TU:
Mark has had to pull out of the fight, He injured his back in his last training session.
Its really bad luck as he was supposed to be sparring with Arreola in the next few weeks also.

Re: Cameron V Leapai?

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 22:31
by 'Frilla
G n F :>