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Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 09:59
by jameswilson
bigjack wrote:diggler wrote:bigjack wrote:Am i correct in thinking that Kessler needs a ko to stay in the competition,if so that could make it more interesting,still think he is on the slide though and think it will be froch's night,won't be aesy though.
no if he wins his next 2 he should go through[/quote
Is it 3 points for a ko and 2 for a points win
Yes.
Even if Kessler loses to Carl I think a KO win in his next fight against Alan Green would take him through.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 10:11
by dondada
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 12:41
by WelshDevil
Very bad news. That ref gave the worst performance I have ever seen in a boxing ring. Even warned Robin for punching.
Carl needs a knock-out and the way Kessler fought last time out i.e unable to let the punches go. Then Carl should be able to take full advantage of this slightly faded version.
I originally saw a distance fight but now needs must - should be a very exciting fight.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 13:43
by jamesmcdonnell
J wrote:

i still chuckle over you reaction to the scott harrison victor polo fight that we watched round Jimmi's......... Ian...all time classic.
almost as extreme as the reaction to the price of a curry in london as I recall....

Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 13:56
by glahn
Terrible news. Froch is going to need a knockout just to get a draw. If he wins this it will be one of the best performances by a British fighter overseas ever, taking into account how everything is stacked against him.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 14:30
by J
jamesmcdonnell wrote:J wrote:

i still chuckle over you reaction to the scott harrison victor polo fight that we watched round Jimmi's......... Ian...all time classic.
almost as extreme as the reaction to the price of a curry in london as I recall....

or a pint, mind you that will probably make me squeal when i come back too
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 14:52
by tonyevs
If Froch is going to win - which I think he will - then the judges aren`t going to be needed

Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 15:51
by Autobarn
it's odd that they would put such a controversial character as an official in such an important fight. a man who is obviously corrupt, or incompetent - certainly highly unprofessional.
perhaps sauersausage have done this to deflect everyone's attention away from one of the other judges, someone hell bent on giving as many rounds as he can to kessler. perhaps they are expecting a complaint against tilleman, may even remove him, if they have their sleeper already in there.
or am i being paranoid?
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 16:06
by dondada
J wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:J wrote:

i still chuckle over you reaction to the scott harrison victor polo fight that we watched round Jimmi's......... Ian...all time classic.
almost as extreme as the reaction to the price of a curry in london as I recall....

or a pint, mind you that will probably make me squeal when i come back too
The £4 pint has arrived in the smoke! Cockney slags!
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 16:30
by J
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 16:36
by dondada
I wasn't having a go at you pal - though I can think of plenty of excuses if you want me to!
I was just on about the prices in our glorious capital. Last time I was in St Pancras I saw a billboard advertising 'Pint and a Scotch Egg Special - £7'. I nearly had a f*cking coronary!

Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 16:39
by J
i know fella im just playing...

Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 17:35
by whiskey
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 19:59
by Asterix
Here are their judging records:
Roger Tilleman -
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=judge
Daniel Van de Wiele -
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=judge
Van de Wiele was one of the judges for Froch vs Dirrell. He scored the fight in favour of Froch. That doesn't mean he won't be biased, as Froch was the home fighter then. It's just a note that might be of interest. Personally, his scorecards look fine to me, from a quick look.
Guido Cavalleri -
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=judge
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 20:09
by Deno1986
Whenever Tilleman and Van der Wiele have judged together, their scorecards are always fairly similiar.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 21:58
by stujones
Daniel Van Der Wiele ballsed up Chi vs Brodie 1, but generally I think he is an excellent ref and seems to be a good judge - disagree with his Froch vs Dirrell card though.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 00:24
by Evander
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote: Last time I was in St Pancras I saw a billboard advertising 'Pint and a Scotch Egg Special - £7'. I nearly had a f*cking coronary!

How much was the beer just out of curiosity ?
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 03:48
by Heartbreak_Kid79
I remember the Ref from the Reid vs Ottke fight.... totally biased!
Reid knocked Ottke down... it wasnt scored as a knockdown, and didnt he dock points from Reid?
It was pitiful.
In that case i fear Froch needs to go for a Knockout to be sure
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 05:31
by dondada
Evander wrote:Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote: Last time I was in St Pancras I saw a billboard advertising 'Pint and a Scotch Egg Special - £7'. I nearly had a f*cking coronary!

How much was the beer just out of curiosity ?
I think the pint was about £3.50. I had a look due to my astonishment at the prices and for a scotch egg on its own was a f*cking fiver...I can hear you all laughing now
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DD
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 05:39
by alectrifyingalex
Oh dear.........
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 11:44
by J
G0mez wrote:
Im from Ollerton.
:(
DIDNT LIVE IN MANSFIELD LONG MATE JUST BORN THERE!
thankfully.
Re: Froch v Kessler judges... ref from Reid vs Ottke
Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 18:00
by Asterix
G0mez wrote:Roger Tilleman is one and Daniel Van de Wiele from Belgium and Guido Cavalleri Italy.
Tilleman is the bent ref from the Reid vs Ottke fights.
Tilleman is a bent judge as well it seems.