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Godfather of Dole wrote:I had this conversation via email with a BS reader who decide to educate me on the fact that 'true' fighters don't duck mandatories or allow people to step aside. So I dropped in Tyson/Lewis/Holyfield for him and pointed out that Lewis, like Maidana, realised that he wasn't going to get a shot so he took the next best option, a pile of dosh and/or a handful of TV dates, not to mention a huge dose of fan sympathy.

Similarly, Max Schmeling was left standing on the scales for a fight that never happened after Braddock stood him up in order to set the funding stone of Joe Louis' later financial ruin by taking a percentage and $300,000, or the equivalent, to defend against Louis instead of Max. The put a bit of top soil on by saying they didn't want the title to head to Nazi Germany but the truth is they wanted the dough and the Louis fight. Max got his fight in the end, probably wishes he hadn't.

Ricky Hatton, so often accused of dodging Witter, went to HBO, fans went mad when he refused to offer his box office poison rival a fight, and set out on a path that led to a megafight with Floyd Mayweather, ironically a fighter that Hatton had 'ducked' a few years prior.

Joe Calzaghe fought, what, two or three mandatories against absolute shite.

It is not perfect, it is not ideal, but the fact is that the WBA want their belt to stay with Khan, and HBO, so they'd have facilitated Khan either way, probably by minting a new belt to pass onto Maidana, so Rene did what he needed to do and the three fighters, Khan, Maidana and Bradley, are being lined up by HBO, who will dictate if and when Maidana gets his shot(s).

Personally, I think that Maidana will lose a close one to Bradley, who will obviously need a rest/gimme afterwards, and we will see Khan-Maidana/Bradley-TBA share a bill. Don't laugh, I was right when I stated all along that Hatton and Floyd would eventually meet, though it meant that we missed out on the Hatton-Witter superfight.

Tyson's move did led to Lewis-Holyfield I and II and the eventual Tyson fight. Hatton and Floyd met in a big fight. Khan will face either Maidana or Bradley, it is the business.

As for Paulie the non-puncher, yeah, he cannot punch and has only scored 5 KOs in 20+ fights. Locche scored about 10-15 in over 100 fights -- I guess he was shite an' all.

Khan should have fought Murray or Thaxton, he didn't, but if he fights Bradley down the line then what will we remember? The absence of the domestic fights or the big US fight with Bradley? Yeah, yeah, we all would have preferred Hatton to fight Witter in Ponds Forge Centre but here in the real world a large amount of people were happy with Floyd in Vegas -- funny that.

bigjack wrote: Your correct,it would destroy his confidence if he read some of the anti-khan threads on here

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Remember it took Ricky Hatton 8years to fight for his first title and he was accused of ducking as many people as Khan. Khan alongside Haye is the biggest British talent by a long shot

boxerbob wrote:you can start to laugh at world class athletes when you begin to fight them

so far you have DUCKED.....

at british and european level.....kevin mitchell , john murray and jon thaxton

at world level.....maidana

everybody knows your opponents are handpicked because you are a fraud , froch has fought dangerous fighters at home and abroad

who have you faced amir????....deep down thats a question that bothers you because your team know how bad your chin is....you know how bad your chin is.

ps: oh and than comment about retireing after fighting mayweather and pacman.....no , prescott would knock you out again , maidana will knock you out , bradley will knock you out , alexander will knock you out

hell it wouldnt even be a shock if paulie malignaggi knocks you out

YOU BUM

boxerbob wrote:you can start to laugh at world class athletes when you begin to fight them

so far you have DUCKED.....

at british and european level.....kevin mitchell , john murray and jon thaxton

at world level.....maidana

everybody knows your opponents are handpicked because you are a fraud , froch has fought dangerous fighters at home and abroad

who have you faced amir????....deep down thats a question that bothers you because your team know how bad your chin is....you know how bad your chin is.

ps: oh and than comment about retireing after fighting mayweather and pacman.....no , prescott would knock you out again , maidana will knock you out , bradley will knock you out , alexander will knock you out

hell it wouldnt even be a shock if paulie malignaggi knocks you out

YOU BUM

Captain Hook wrote:

boxerbob wrote:you can start to laugh at world class athletes when you begin to fight them

so far you have DUCKED.....

at british and european level.....kevin mitchell , john murray and jon thaxton

at world level.....maidana

everybody knows your opponents are handpicked because you are a fraud , froch has fought dangerous fighters at home and abroad

who have you faced amir????....deep down thats a question that bothers you because your team know how bad your chin is....you know how bad your chin is.

ps: oh and than comment about retireing after fighting mayweather and pacman.....no , prescott would knock you out again , maidana will knock you out , bradley will knock you out , alexander will knock you out

hell it wouldnt even be a shock if paulie malignaggi knocks you out

YOU BUM

I bet he won't sleep tonight after reading that shite...

boxerbob wrote:spiker , no doubt amir has speed and workrate , yes he works very hard in and out of the ring

my problem is his mouth and his chin and why hes ducking the best domestically and the world stage

before prescott he was "ready for marquez and pacman" his words not mine


he had a go at froch the other night about getting beat but he hasnt faced the type of opponents that froch has , so he cant speak

the guy who beat him is no more than a crude puncher - thats all is needed to beat khan though , a punch

honestly i have never seen a fighter with that bad a chin , amir was knocked down by willie limond and nearly knocked out , limond has no punch at all , jesus even a shot 5 years past his best gomez nearly knocked amir out


its no suprise he fighting a guy with 5kos now....but as mentioned i wouldnt be shocked if paulie knocks out khan

johnswan1 wrote:I can't stand Khan, but I don't like this talk of him "ducking" Maidana. Why should he fight him? Khan just shut out Kotelnik, whom was fresh out of winning a split decision out of Maidana. I don't think he deserves a second shot at the title just yet as if Khan were to outbox him he wouldn't receive due credit for it.

sg1985 wrote:
Are you as critical of Mike Tyson? He paid off Lewis.

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:

boxerbob wrote:you can start to laugh at world class athletes when you begin to fight them

so far you have DUCKED.....

at british and european level.....kevin mitchell , john murray and jon thaxton

at world level.....maidana

everybody knows your opponents are handpicked because you are a fraud , froch has fought dangerous fighters at home and abroad

who have you faced amir????....deep down thats a question that bothers you because your team know how bad your chin is....you know how bad your chin is.

ps: oh and than comment about retireing after fighting mayweather and pacman.....no , prescott would knock you out again , maidana will knock you out , bradley will knock you out , alexander will knock you out

hell it wouldnt even be a shock if paulie malignaggi knocks you out

YOU BUM

antonio barrera.

crusader wrote: And I have to chuckle at someone getting so worked up about Khan ducking Thaxton and Murray. Kotelnik and Malinaggi are world class fighters who so far have proven themselves to be at a higher level than those two.

overhand_right wrote:

crusader wrote: And I have to chuckle at someone getting so worked up about Khan ducking Thaxton and Murray. Kotelnik and Malinaggi are world class fighters who so far have proven themselves to be at a higher level than those two.

You're missing the crucial point that Thaxton and Murray can HIT, Kotelnik and Malignaggi cannot.

The last time Malignaggi stopped a man Amir was 16 years old...

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:i was playing devil's advocat with Barrera mate....I was in attendance.....Barrera was obviously not as good ....or as ANYTHING as he used to be...and Khan had the odd flurry at him in a corner...but Barrera never looked troubled at any point really......it's a shame he got cut...a rematch there would have been nice, but Khan only wanted the scalp and he'd got it, and Barrera probably just the cash...altho that saidI think he was born into a well off family b4 his career, so I could be out there.

Barrera might have caught up and knocked Khan out in the 7th or 8th round...we'll never know. The man still has experience and skill.

Captain Hook wrote:

overhand_right wrote:

crusader wrote: And I have to chuckle at someone getting so worked up about Khan ducking Thaxton and Murray. Kotelnik and Malinaggi are world class fighters who so far have proven themselves to be at a higher level than those two.

You're missing the crucial point that Thaxton and Murray can HIT, Kotelnik and Malignaggi cannot.

The last time Malignaggi stopped a man Amir was 16 years old...

Kotelnik was the world champion, Thaxton and Murray are not and never have been. That's the point, not who hits hardest, otherwise we'd be whingeing about Khan boxing domestic bangers all day rather than the top 10......

Captain Hook wrote:Yes I agree with you and OR to that on a point but as I've said, give the guy a chance! He was flattened not long ago and has come back well and won a world title.......there's plenty of time.

To suggest another opinion is "nonsense" is a little harsh!