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jezzamundo wrote:

The Shane fight IMO says that Hearns would easily KO him. Floyd wouldn't see those bombs coming like he did with Shane. Hearns was faster stronger, bigger, and a better boxer than Shane. The only advantage Shane has over Hearns is a chin giving Mayweather a punchers chance which isn't alot. Hearns is hands down probably top 3 hardest punchers at Welter EVER. For me to believe Mayweather would've stood up to those shots, he would've took Shane's flush shots like he was Marvin Hagler. Just a bad nightmarish matchup for Floyd and anyone else not named Hagler or Leonard, two very big welters.

Hagler was never a welterweight, only ever a middeweight. Over his whole career his weight was always in the 155lb-163lb range. When he fought Hearns it was at middleweight.

Oh I knew that.. well you get the point.

clear loss to Leonard
probable stoppage loss to Hearns between the 5th and 7th
loses close to Montreal Duran, but probably wins any other time
loses close to Benitez

Kalule would whip Mayweather at 154.No much smaller Potshotter without power or workrate is going to beat a balanced super-accurate technician that was as tough to out-finesse as the Ugandan.

Floyd beats Kalule by decision. Hearns by decision if not knock out, Hearns had a shaky chin. Benitez by decision if not knockout. Duran by close decision. Leonard? cant even tell u that. very close.

No this comes from a person who uses common sense. destroy Mayweather? how do u think that? has mayweather been beaten let alone "Destroyed". u cant say anybody would destroy him when he hast even taken a beating what so ever.

My views cant b incorrect because they r my opinion and since this fight never took place and never will take place how can i be wrong in my opinion?. and if i am wrong than let me know how. don't be afraid to loose a debate. and i cant wait till others see it either because i love a good argument.

look genius we can say what we think will happen but it is all speculation. like i said the fight never took place and never will so all we can do is GUESS who can win. keyword is GUESS

maybe u r right because this place seems more of a safe haven for nerds such as yourself. i clearly do not fit in.

ThatOne wrote:In light of the Pretty Boy's destruction of Sugar Shane Mosley in a fight where he abandoned his safety first posture and pretty much stood toe to toe how does he fare against these other great welterweights?*

Sugar Ray Leonard

Tommy Hearns

Roberto Duran

Wilfredo Benitez

Ayub Kalule


* I realize they all didn't spend their entire career there.

Leonard is just too good for Mayweather - for me this is a clear UD or late TKO by Leonard.
Hearns is just too powerful for Mayweather - Hearns destroys Mayweather in around 3 or 4 rounds the most.
Duran wins by outworking Mayweather - Duran by clear UD
Benitez and Mayweather are 50/50. No clear winner here either way.
Kalule is just simply a level below all the others. I think Mayweather wins this one.

I'm thinking Duran won't knock him out because that would end the beating. And I rather think Duran would have fun beating that boy about the ring.

I like the above stated outcome, and think Duran would give him the worst beating with or without a KO.

i love it here i enjoy making others angry and i am succeeding in doing so.

Floyd beats Duran, Benetiz, Kalule

Extremly close with SRL and Hearns.

SRL and Floyd have similar attributes. Except IMO Floyd sticks to his gameplan better.

Hearns it could be interesting, Hearns had the power to stop anyone at 147, Floyd as defecivly brilliant as he is would be in a battle that he hasnt ever been in. id lean towards Hearns by UD.

ben k wrote:Floyd beats Duran, Benetiz, Kalule

Extremly close with SRL and Hearns.

SRL and Floyd have similar attributes. Except IMO Floyd sticks to his gameplan better.

Hearns it could be interesting, Hearns had the power to stop anyone at 147, Floyd as defecivly brilliant as he is would be in a battle that he hasnt ever been in. id lean towards Hearns by UD.

Why's Kalule on the list?

Given he struggled making 154, he's dead at 147.

orbtastic wrote:Why's Kalule on the list?

Given he struggled making 154, he's dead at 147.

I think Kalule is on that list because that is the only possible fight that Mayweather would sign for. As for the others I found it hard to believe that Mayweather would've signed for.

Can you imagine the sabre rattling and fight negotiations/demands for PBF/SRL?

At 154 I'd even pick Kalule over him to be honest.

Floyd maybe loses to all of them. Really, I just can't see him winning none of those fights. I don't even see him beating these guys:
Carmen Basilio
Kid Gavilan
Emile Griffith
Luis Manuel Rodriguez
Donald Curry
Pernell Whitaker
Sugar Ray Robinson
Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles
Luis Federico Thompson
Benny "Kid" Paret

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

ben k wrote:Floyd beats Duran, Benetiz, Kalule

Extremly close with SRL and Hearns.

SRL and Floyd have similar attributes. Except IMO Floyd sticks to his gameplan better.

Hearns it could be interesting, Hearns had the power to stop anyone at 147, Floyd as defecivly brilliant as he is would be in a battle that he hasnt ever been in. id lean towards Hearns by UD.

Hate when morons such as this genius love to tell others they disagree about others opinions but yet they cant ever give any reason as to why they disagree, cuz they don't know s*#t. if u disagree then thats all fine and dandy but tell us why. state ur case. miss urine

Shavers was never KOed. /thread.

ben k wrote:SRL and Floyd have similar attributes. Except IMO Floyd sticks to his gameplan better.

In what way Ben? I don't see them as similar fighters at all.


As for the original question I would say both Leonard and Hearns beat Mayweather, too big, powerful and skilled and every bit as fast as Floyd. I'm sure Floyd would have his moments. Anyone saying Hearns' chin would be an issue in this fight is really clutching at straws.

Mayweather/Duran is a great clash of styles might get a trilogy out of it.

I've not seen enough of Kalule to pick a winner (incidentally I think a lot of people in the same boat are pick Floyd automatically in this one)

Benitez I need to give more thought.

Kalule is a terrible matchup for Floyd at 154 or god forbid 160, a much better fighter before weight issues got to him than the old DLH and Mosley's Floyd has made his name on at this weight.If i was to pick a famous widely considered great fighter he could realistically fight;one that would make the African look like a master, it would be Floyd.

It's funny you are right in saying a lot of people would pick Floyd automatically without having seen much of kalule, but imo it's fights against certified natural Welterweight all-timers like Leonard and Hearns that are the stupid and not competitive or intriguing fights.The smaller Duran and Benitez i can maybe understand but still, they didn't make their name at this weight on semi-retired old hacks and faded has beens.

That's always the problem with these fantasy match-ups. Just as some people will always pick the older fighter others seem to need to believe that whoever is the marquee name is at a particular weight right now is as good as anyone who has ever fought there.

J-C wrote:

ben k wrote:SRL and Floyd have similar attributes. Except IMO Floyd sticks to his gameplan better.

In what way Ben? I don't see them as similar fighters at all.


They are similar in terms of skill level,speed, and mental game. As far as fighting, one acurately throws one punch at a time while the other was one of the fastest combination fighters ever.

Anyone saying Hearns' chin would be an issue in this fight is really clutching at straws.

Agree. People act as if Hearns had a Zab Judah like chin. He was stopped by Leonard, Hagler and Barkley. Guys who would've stopped Mayweather quicker.