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FLINT ISLAND wrote:

Lenny wrote:Remain with his senses? It the Klitschko brothers we're talking about not Sonny Liston.
In todays heavyweight division they are both very good fighters but for all their physical and technical advantages they are hardly aggressive fighters are they

Yes - remain with his senses = he said it right fella.

Wlad punches harder than Lennox Lewis - according to Emanuel Stweard.

Vitali had enough power to brush aside a smiliar heavyweight as Haye in Herbie Hide.

Wlad may well do (although I doubt it) but he'll never have Lewis' killer instinct or finishing ability
Vitali may have brushed Herbie aside but he hardly removed him of his senses with the breeze from those punchers you repetitive bore??

Lenny wrote:Remain with his senses? It the Klitschko brothers we're talking about not Sonny Liston.
In todays heavyweight division they are both very good fighters but for all their physical and technical advantages they are hardly aggressive fighters are they

Well said mate, I really don't get some of the posters on here.

Two robotic, pedestrian stand-up fighters (one with a good chin)...they're not greats, no chance.

FLINT ISLAND wrote:

If he hadn't have fought Enzo everyone would have complained he had avoided him!

The money will have helped too, but I think Haye would fight Wlad and I think he would KO him.[/quote]

Its true - if he hadnt of fought Enzo - people would have said he was avoiding his main British rival - but he fought him - for big money / not much risk - as people were saying it was a 50/50 fight but Haye and Booth were confident they were a level above Enzo.

However now he is in a position where he is making million pound paydays and lots of commercial deals sponsers off the the back of being WBA Heavyweight Champion.

Why would he want to risk losing his title / unbeaten run against a Klitshcko ?

He will fight them - but only when he is ready to cash his chips in. (so not in the next 12-18 months)[/quote]


How was it not much risk when people have labelled Haye chinny and fragile and Mac can punch and was world champion?!? Ever post you make is packed with contradictions and hypocrisy.

FLINT ISLAND wrote:

Lenny wrote:Remain with his senses? It the Klitschko brothers we're talking about not Sonny Liston.
In todays heavyweight division they are both very good fighters but for all their physical and technical advantages they are hardly aggressive fighters are they

Yes - remain with his senses = he said it right fella.

Wlad punches harder than Lennox Lewis - according to Emanuel Stweard.

Vitali had enough power to brush aside a smiliar heavyweight as Haye in Herbie Hide.

WTF?!

Captain Hook wrote:

Lenny wrote:Remain with his senses? It the Klitschko brothers we're talking about not Sonny Liston.
In todays heavyweight division they are both very good fighters but for all their physical and technical advantages they are hardly aggressive fighters are they

Well said mate, I really don't get some of the posters on here.

Two robotic, pedestrian stand-up fighters (one with a good chin)...they're not greats, no chance.

They're not greats but Haye showed agaiosnt Ruiz how much he would struggle agaisnt either brother.

Good luck to him if he fights them, just don't see him winning, so a fight with Audley is good for him

falkor wrote:

FLINT ISLAND wrote:

Lenny wrote:Remain with his senses? It the Klitschko brothers we're talking about not Sonny Liston.
In todays heavyweight division they are both very good fighters but for all their physical and technical advantages they are hardly aggressive fighters are they

Yes - remain with his senses = he said it right fella.

Wlad punches harder than Lennox Lewis - according to Emanuel Stweard.

Vitali had enough power to brush aside a smiliar heavyweight as Haye in Herbie Hide.

And Haye as pissed them off so much that Vitali reckons Wlad will keep him in there till late on. Imagine 12 rounds of hard jabs all night long

He will regret it and he knows it

What's your beef with Haye? 12 rounds of slow, languid, dull jabs? You think Haye will stand around and take that? Based on what?

What about Haye's career makes you think he will stand in fornt of Wlad Klit like one of the fat, unambitious faded Americans and take his 12mph jab all night?

wlad was considered a fraud for many years. fighting scared vs jameel mccline and davarryl williamson. getting knocked out by a body builder and a part time golfer. hyperventilating and pretty much knocking himself out vs a human punching bag. getting dropped 3x by sam peter, whom Big brother easily beat..ok he looked good vs byrd, brock and chambers but basicalyl ring mag needed a heavyweight champ so they sanctioned an ill, late notice chagaev to they could crown him as The Man at heavyweight. still, he holds too much, is allowed to get away with illegal tactics (his hugging rivals that of a jiu jitsu fighter) and we're lucky if he throws a right hand every five minutes!

haye is entitled to make as much money as he can, the easy money (audley) and the hard money (klitschkos). just cos he might do one, doesn't mean he won't do the other.

Captain Hook wrote:

falkor wrote:

FLINT ISLAND wrote: Yes - remain with his senses = he said it right fella.

Wlad punches harder than Lennox Lewis - according to Emanuel Stweard.

Vitali had enough power to brush aside a smiliar heavyweight as Haye in Herbie Hide.

And Haye as pissed them off so much that Vitali reckons Wlad will keep him in there till late on. Imagine 12 rounds of hard jabs all night long

He will regret it and he knows it

What's your beef with Haye? 12 rounds of slow, languid, dull jabs? You think Haye will stand around and take that? Based on what?

What about Haye's career makes you think he will stand in fornt of Wlad Klit like one of the fat, unambitious faded Americans and take his 12mph jab all night?

i have no beef with haye, am quite happy we have a heavyweight champion but I just dont see him for all the hype surrounding him

If Ruiz can land with ease then the Klits can

that's like saying "look what bert cooper's shots did to holyfield; imagine what tyson would do."

every fight is different. look at the prize ruiz paid for "landing easily"!

surely not..another thread from FLINT slagging off haye.

do you need to say the same thing over and over in a daily basis Flint, at best OCD like behaviour bordering on autism.

There is no point fighting Audley he has nothing to prove by beating him, he wont gain anything. After months of slagging off the Klitschko's for months since his win he hasnt called him out to make the fight!

povetkin's demanding WADA drug testing for a wlad fight. maybe some fighters think wlad is juicing, just like some fighters think pac is on something.

like pac following the mayweather accusations, wlad won't go along with this means of testing.

what kind of message is this sending out, i wonder?

alexpaterson wrote:There is no point fighting Audley he has nothing to prove by beating him, he wont gain anything. After months of slagging off the Klitschko's for months since his win he hasnt called him out to make the fight!

No point? Are you sure? Think about it. £££££££££

Haye may well fight Harrison next but then he will have to fight his mandatory against Chagaev - or forfeit the WBA title.
Actually Haye v Harrison is something I wouldn't mind watching.

Would a fight against Harrison really make Haye THAT much money, i.e. this 7-figure sum? Harrison would attract no interest whatsoever outside of UK and I couldn't see any US tv backing it.

At least in Germany against Valuev, when it happened, and against the Klitschkos if it happened there would be money from German tv and US interest too.

Other than an article in one of the most retarded newspapers (probably in the world), is there any genuine evidence that Haye has expressed interest in fighting Harrison? Last I heard from Haye on the matter he laughed at the idea.

These are genuine questions, so I'm more than happy to be contradicted.

Britannian Stallion wrote:Would a fight against Harrison really make Haye THAT much money, i.e. this 7-figure sum? Harrison would attract no interest whatsoever outside of UK and I couldn't see any US tv backing it.

At least in Germany against Valuev, when it happened, and against the Klitschkos if it happened there would be money from German tv and US interest too.

Other than an article in one of the most retarded newspapers (probably in the world), is there any genuine evidence that Haye has expressed interest in fighting Harrison? Last I heard from Haye on the matter he laughed at the idea.

These are genuine questions, so I'm more than happy to be contradicted.

Yes.If he is on a fiver a ppv(as he was against Valuev,apparently)he has got to be looking at a few million purse.He will also be joint promoter,and this fight will sell BIG

exactly, he's not only a fighter but also a promoter.

what promoter could resist filling up a big arena and having PPV #s that hit the roof?

i mean, how much was haye getting to fight mormeck in france, how much was he getting beating gurov and fragomeni (risky fights) in small halls? haye's already fulfilled the "hardcore fight fan" quota and he should make as much money as he can.

he has been very quiet regarding audley, though, and it seems the idea is sky's, not haye's. but this would be big, very big at home, and this could have a positive effect - especially if some really good undercard fights are put on - on british boxing.

haye's been in real fights, he'll be in more, but there are also things such as novelty fights which can be very successful. it's not like haye's going to be claiming to be a legend (ala calzaghe-jones) on the strength of beating audley.

when the klitschkos retire, many good fighters will be gunning for haye. he can give himself a serious edge over powerful european promoters by strengthening his position in the box office, over here, in fights vs ppl like harrison.

FLINT ISLAND wrote:

Deserter wrote:Flint, your annoying drivel about Enzo has now been replaced by similar inane ramblings about Haye. Please find another forum to troll around

Read my opening post again fella - with a unbiased mind against me (if that is possible for you) - its anything but trolling - I speak sense and the truth. I am sure many other posters agree with me.

I agree............................................ with the others.

It's boring repetitive drivel, Flint.

Tell us more about your shed. It's the only subject you seem to know anything about.

What is the difference if Haye fights either brother in 2010, 2011 or 2012?


yawn

Shed = Enzo = Flint = Strange bondage game

Give it a rest geezer.

Flint. Not so popular on this forum, eh?

FLINT ISLAND wrote:

Lenny wrote:Remain with his senses? It the Klitschko brothers we're talking about not Sonny Liston.
In todays heavyweight division they are both very good fighters but for all their physical and technical advantages they are hardly aggressive fighters are they

Yes - remain with his senses = he said it right fella.

Wlad punches harder than Lennox Lewis - according to Emanuel Stweard.

Vitali had enough power to brush aside a smiliar heavyweight as Haye in Herbie Hide.

andy lee was also the best middleweight in the world according to steward